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Old Posted Dec 1, 2012, 9:57 PM
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For some reason, that doesn't make me feel very confident.
im sure their spending a huge load of money to buy the property so their not just going to let it sit there... obviously thier buying it for a purpose. They intend to spend 80 million plus on the project and they probably will. If it is in fact the lot acroos from the forks.. itll definitely be prime real estate.. right in the center of dt by the river, the forks, walking distance to night life, st boniface area.. they will definitely build something and the thought of 2 high rises at that locations will have huge impact on the skyline.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2012, 9:58 PM
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Fortress was or is involved in Capital Pointe in Regina, just FYI.
they have also been involved with several Lamb projects (SoBa and Gotham in Ottawa, King Charlotte in Toronto, and 6th and 10th in Calgary). wasn't Lamb in town a few months ago?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2012, 10:00 PM
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capital point is also being held up by underground hydro inferstrcuture that has to get moved witch involves sask power building eletrical vaults and runing duct for 200plus meters thats not a small task
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2012, 10:46 PM
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Manitoba Hydro has a tender out for a new Substation out on Martin Ave West in Elmwood to replace the existing 50+ year old Martin substation.

The plans are not on the internet but I wonder if this one is going to be a depressed bowl station like the new one on Burrows where the Transformers and distribution lattice are going to be kept low to give a better visual profile?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2012, 2:18 AM
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Be prepared for Manitoba Hydro to be spending money in Winnipeg for infrastructure improvements over the next few years.

They have discovered at least 47 manholes in the old Winnipeg Hydro service area that need to be replaced with a 3-5 week construction time span for each one.

There are 20 substation that need to be replaced or refurbished over the next 12 years and 38 that do not have excess capacity. This means if a station goes down they can't transfer the load to another one to restore service.

As well over the next 6 years they plan to spend $200 million to replace 6 terminal stations in Winnipeg.

http://www.hydro.mb.ca/news/insights/issues.shtml#story2
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2012, 2:34 AM
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thats the legacy of a missmanaged city of winnipeg...
     
     
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thats the legacy of a missmanaged city of winnipeg...
Yes and unfortunately it will cost all of us through higher hydro rates with yearly increases forecast for the next five years.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2012, 4:02 AM
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It's funny, the Fortress Twitter feed said "It will be an exciting addition to the 'SHED'". But now it's not in the SHED? Maybe they got confused.
I am totally convinced that the lots Fortress has secured on the two surface lots between Smith and Donald facing Graham. The St Regis deal specifically called out several surface parking lots that were included. The Free Press article about the Fortress deal today had comments on the deal from CentreVenture who backed the St Regis deal. Further, the St Regis sale closes in January explaining why Fortress cannot disclose their location. Finally, the lots are immediately next to the SHED but not in the special tax zone that is the SHED which could explain the confusion.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2012, 4:35 AM
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Yes and unfortunately it will cost all of us through higher hydro rates with yearly increases forecast for the next five years.
But we got lower taxes in the past decade!! It was so worth it!

Been there, done that. Quarter billion dollar debt. We're called Blunder Bay for a reason.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2012, 4:40 AM
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My question about the Fortress proposal - is their $80 million dollar project just a portion of the overall budget because $80 million won't build much of a big 2 tower development. Use Heritage landing as an example - it is 25 storey's and about $75 million.......just curious.
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But we got lower taxes in the past decade!! It was so worth it!

Been there, done that. Quarter billion dollar debt. We're called Blunder Bay for a reason.
I think Winnipeg should have kept that property tax freeze forever...
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My question about the Fortress proposal - is their $80 million dollar project just a portion of the overall budget because $80 million won't build much of a big 2 tower development. Use Heritage landing as an example - it is 25 storey's and about $75 million.......just curious.
depends on the footprint....heritage landing is massive...its the area of a more typical residential twin tower.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2012, 4:46 AM
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I am totally convinced that the lots Fortress has secured on the two surface lots between Smith and Donald facing Graham.
oh man, that would be spectacular.....those are two of the most despised parking lots in the city.


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will this be one of the mpi lots being sold????

that makes 7 high rises in the core in the next 4 years

2 from centerpoint project
2 from this ontario developer
d condos
heritage landing condo
convention center hotel
lakeview 8 story hotel
possible midrise with art gallery expansion

the other mpi lots?????

downtown is changing like it or not niiice

more to come.....much more to come.....
     
     
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oh man, that would be spectacular.....those are two of the most despised parking lots in the city.





more to come.....much more to come.....
your estimates of a a yr ago have gotten bigger?
     
     
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oh man, that would be spectacular.....those are two of the most despised parking lots in the city.

more to come.....much more to come.....
So, any chance of a new tallest? At this rate it would have to be a condo tower, given that office space is not exactly in high demand, nor is a 40-storey hotel...
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2012, 2:51 PM
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Manitoba Hydro has a tender out for a new Substation out on Martin Ave West in Elmwood to replace the existing 50+ year old Martin substation.

The plans are not on the internet but I wonder if this one is going to be a depressed bowl station like the new one on Burrows where the Transformers and distribution lattice are going to be kept low to give a better visual profile?
They have 3 more stations to come in the next year or so. King St replacement - across from Calvary Temple, Madison Station (St James Station) behind Future Shop and William and Tecumshe Station for HSC still to come.
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2012, 3:16 PM
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They have 3 more stations to come in the next year or so. King St replacement - across from Calvary Temple, Madison Station (St James Station) behind Future Shop and William and Tecumshe Station for HSC still to come.
Did not know the location of the King St. replacement. I thought maybe they would buy the part of the building the police garage is in and use that side.

The William Ave station is part of a large project to improve electrical service to the HSC complex. I think there is going to be a second powerhouse being built next to the new substation as well.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2012, 4:07 PM
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Some new photos from the air (posted nov 30)

Some construction-y shots

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/multimedia/pov/Winnipeg-from-the-air-161885065.html
     
     
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This better become a regular WFP feature!!!
     
     
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