Winnipeg Construction

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

Can't remember the names of the units, but I was told the first ten floors with the smaller balconies shown in the rendering are all sold. My friends landed themselves one of the only two units with the 800+sq foot balcony. The other one is sold as well.

do you have access to any of the floorplans?

[lilwayne]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

Biff was told that's not happening any more

never say never

but right now were spoiled we never seen this much action dt in a while

a couple of years ago mentioning 3 condos being built downtown d condos, assinaboine landing, and glass house would be enough to get most of us wet.

but now we want more and more and more.. and well according to tru and biff theres many more in the pipeline

not to mention wcc hotel, alt hotel, wag expansion, fortress reality project, and the 36 story tower rumor

[JamieDavid Exchange]

Originally Posted by trueviking

do you have access to any of the floorplans?

My friends received a big booklet from the leasing agent. It shows renderings and each floorplan layout.

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by lilwayne

a couple of years ago mentioning 3 condos being built downtown d condos, assinaboine landing, and glass house would be enough to get most of us wet.

Um...either you're not aware that pretty much all of us are male or your penis is touching your vagina again.

[steveosnyder]

Originally Posted by trueviking

the housing market in winnipeg has been red hot for several years....the downtown population has grown by 20% in 5 years....i can guarantee you that every single residential tower being proposed includes parking.

Well, that's good to hear... The people are going to need it seeing as the fact that nothing else is downtown. Forgive me, but I would much prefer the Osborne or Corydon Village -- everything you need within walking distance.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by steveosnyder

Well, that's good to hear... The people are going to need it seeing as the fact that nothing else is downtown. Forgive me, but I would much prefer the Osborne or Corydon Village -- everything you need within walking distance.

That's kind of what I was thinking. Who would spend that kind of dough to live somewhere with virtually no services? Sure there are some good eateries downtown but there are neither groceries nor retail.

I suspect this will similar to Liberty Village or City Place in Toronto - mostly bought on spec for rentals. Difficult to sell as homes but easy as investments.

[Shinook]

Toronto, blah blah blah. How do you people expect downtown to improve? I swear, some people just want to complain without seeing the positive. FFS.

[lilwayne]

Originally Posted by Shinook

Toronto, blah blah blah. How do you people expect downtown to improve? I swear, some people just want to complain without seeing the positive. FFS.

you speak the truth.. some people have no common sense. They want and expect grocery stores and great pedestrian presence in the core, yet complain anytime housing and residential buildings are proposed for the area. First of all why would a company invest in a grocery store in an area that has little to no residential growth or presence. Do people expect them to put the grocery store together than hope maybe someone will decide to build more condos in the area to support their businesses. No, the people come first than the companies and businesses creep in once they see that the market is big enough to support their businesses. Trust me once the number of residence in the downtown has reached a certain point your going to see a tremendous influx of grocery stores and other type of services introduced into the area. First you need to create the housing and residential to support them.

[Riverman]

Common sense would dictate that because one has to feed oneself, one would want to live near a grocery store. People with money that would buy one of these units (older people) have the sense to take that into consideration before buying.

I think they will be a hard sell until more amenities arrive.

[h0twired]

Originally Posted by trueviking

do you have access to any of the floorplans?

http://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/d-condo/units

[Biff]

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[h0twired]

Originally Posted by steveosnyder

Forgive me, but I would much prefer the Osborne or Corydon Village -- everything you need within walking distance.

Chicken and egg scenario.

How do you convince Sobeys to build a grocery store on the speculation of people eventually moving there because Sobeys is there. Every new residential area requires a good number of "pioneers" before you start to see a large number of amenities.

I lived in the Calgary beltline (around 17th Ave) and there was only a small Safeway serving 20,000 people for years. It wasn't until 2007 that a Calgary CO-OP added a location as well.

Additionally, "walking distance" is a fairly broad term in Winnipeg. I live 3 blocks (and a parking lot) away from my Sobeys and I have neighbours who wouldn't think about walking to get their groceries. Yet my aunt (who is 77) walks a good 15 blocks to do her shopping there in the summer.

For people living at dCondos, Glasshouse or Heritage Landing they could all walk to the IGA on Donald for groceries.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by h0twired

Chicken and egg scenario.

How do you convince Sobeys to build a grocery store on the speculation of people eventually moving there because Sobeys is there. Every new residential area requires a good number of "pioneers" before you start to see a large number of amenities.

I lived in the Calgary beltline (around 17th Ave) and there was only a small Safeway serving 20,000 people for years. It wasn't until 2007 that a Calgary CO-OP added a location as well.

Additionally, "walking distance" is a fairly broad term in Winnipeg. I live 3 blocks (and a parking lot) away from my Sobeys and I have neighbours who wouldn't think about walking to get their groceries. Yet my aunt (who is 77) walks a good 15 blocks to do her shopping there in the summer.

For people living at dCondos, Glasshouse or Heritage Landing they could all walk to the IGA on Donald for groceries.

Heritage landing will be approx 1.2 km from the Osborne Safeway and .4 km from the IGA on Donald.

[steveosnyder]

Originally Posted by h0twired

Chicken and egg scenario.

How do you convince Sobeys to build a grocery store on the speculation of people eventually moving there because Sobeys is there. Every new residential area requires a good number of "pioneers" before you start to see a large number of amenities.

I lived in the Calgary beltline (around 17th Ave) and there was only a small Safeway serving 20,000 people for years. It wasn't until 2007 that a Calgary CO-OP added a location as well.

Additionally, "walking distance" is a fairly broad term in Winnipeg. I live 3 blocks (and a parking lot) away from my Sobeys and I have neighbours who wouldn't think about walking to get their groceries. Yet my aunt (who is 77) walks a good 15 blocks to do her shopping there in the summer.

For people living at dCondos, Glasshouse or Heritage Landing they could all walk to the IGA on Donald for groceries.

My augument isn't with peoples definition of walking distance, nor is it with parking -- I understand people need to drive some times. It is that the continuous cycle of parking. "We need more parking because everyone drives and no one will buy without parking", but then all the land gets used up by residence and parking, creating giant gaps to other land uses, making it harder and harder for someone to use anything other than their car.

[lilwayne]

so apparantly thier considering building a 12 - 15 story office tower as the new world trade offices in winnipeg

OFFICE TOWER Proj: 9155690-2
Winnipeg, Division No 11 MB CONTEMPLATED
World Trade Centre offices, Site Undetermined
$10,000,000 est
Note: This project is preliminary. How an architect will be secured is not determined. Project schedules have not been set pending the owner's decision to proceed.
Project: construction of a 12 to 15-storey office building.
Scope: 15 storeys
Development: New
Category: Commercial offices
Owner Complete information is available to subscribers. Click HERE to find out how to subscribe.
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First report Mon Apr 23, 2012.

http://www.journalofcommerce.com/cgi-bin...4c6429&projectid=9155690&region=prairies

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by lilwayne

so apparantly thier considering building a 12 - 15 story office tower as the new world trade offices in winnipeg

nice location for that would be that pencil tower, by goldeyes park. signature building, overlooking CMHR, nice!

[trueviking]

dont get your hopes up for a stand alone WTC building.....they will likely piggy back on to an existing project.....i dont think they have any money to contribute to the construction of a new building......

[hexrae]

I'm throwing darts in the dark here but...

Rumour of a 36 storey building
Fortress Real Developments (Although Freep article mentioned they were looking at 2 high-rises and $80 million development)
WTC offices looking at 12-15 storeys

Perhaps these all wrap up nicely together.

[rgalston]

Originally Posted by steveosnyder

My augument isn't with peoples definition of walking distance, nor is it with parking -- I understand people need to drive some times. It is that the continuous cycle of parking. "We need more parking because everyone drives and no one will buy without parking", but then all the land gets used up by residence and parking, creating giant gaps to other land uses, making it harder and harder for someone to use anything other than their car.

That's just a bunch of hipster gobblygook. Why don't you go buy a handmade wool sweater in a 100 year-old building, and leave the discussion to the experts here?

Personally, I would hate to live in a neighbourhood where large parking structures WEREN'T a dominant feature of the landscape.

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Common sense would dictate that because one has to feed oneself, one would want to live near a grocery store. People with money that would buy one of these units (older people) have the sense to take that into consideration before buying.

I think they will be a hard sell until more amenities arrive.

Really? Then please explain to me the people in SAGE CREEK, where the best thing they have is either their fridge or the Tim Hortans, yet the sub division is almost full, and take into account it has about 300 rental apartments. And then look what came along and is being built now, yes a SOBEYS.


As for saying there is no RETAIL in the downtown????? WTF is Portage place and all the other stores? Do you need a Ikea down there to? And there is an IGA downtown that is near most of these projects, guess you never drove up and down most of south portage and noticed all the Condos and Apartments.

And blah blah blah, Osborne Village, enough people there all ready, the traffic car and ped is unreal any day. Plus do you see a bunch of parking lots to build? No you see 100 year old houses to tear down to make way for anything new. Btw there is more shopping / retail downtown then osborne vill.

end rant.........