Defence, Security and Resilience Bank HQ

[Kitchissippi]

My fantasy location for this if it landed in Ottawa would be a purpose-built building on the southwest corner of Wellington and Booth in LeBreton Flats. Close to Pimisi Station and across the park from the War Museum (and the Holocaust memorial) as a reminder of the impact of war and conflict. Put shops and restaurants on the podium to cater to the well paying jobs, and it can also add quite a bit of animation to that area.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

My fantasy location for this if it landed in Ottawa would be a purpose-built building on the southwest corner of Wellington and Booth in LeBreton Flats. Close to Pimisi Station and across the park from the War Museum (and the Holocaust memorial) as a reminder of the impact of war and conflict. Put shops and restaurants on the podium to cater to the well paying jobs, and it can also add quite a bit of animation to that area.

That specific location, though filled with symbolism, probably won't happen because it's slated to be all residential. I certainly would love anywhere at LeBreton, Zibi (Ottawa side) or a redevelopment of the Place de Ville surface parking lot.

[LeadingEdgeBoomer]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

That specific location, though filled with symbolism, probably won't happen because it's slated to be all residential. I certainly would love anywhere at LeBreton, Zibi (Ottawa side) or a redevelopment of the Place de Ville surface parking lot.

Maybe on land adjacent to CSIS HQ and the Five Eyes Facility. A security perimeter can cover all three.

[Norman Bates]

Originally Posted by LeadingEdgeBoomer

Maybe on land adjacent to CSIS HQ and the Five Eyes Facility. A security perimeter can cover all three.

That’s what I was thinking.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by LeadingEdgeBoomer

Maybe on land adjacent to CSIS HQ and the Five Eyes Facility. A security perimeter can cover all three.

NATO organizations don't operate on Five Eyes clearances. Indeed, effort is usually made to separate these. Also, as one of the execs of Telesat told me when I asked why they moved from Blair to Elgin. "Because the guys with the chequebooks said Blair was too far." If you're going to argue that Ottawa has all these great organizations they can access, you better make sure the location picked maximizes that accessibility.

[Kitchissippi]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

That specific location, though filled with symbolism, probably won't happen because it's slated to be all residential. I certainly would love anywhere at LeBreton, Zibi (Ottawa side) or a redevelopment of the Place de Ville surface parking lot.

Not so sure about that, in fact I think the NCC wants all the buildings on Wellington to be offices. It actually makes sense, it creates a buffer for festival noise, and from a security standpoint it's best to have buildings that are easy to secure since there are sometimes very high profile people up on stage.

Putting on my paranoia hat here, but with residential buildings bordering the festival venue, any wacko with a gun can create a lot of damage. The deadliest mass shooting in modern US history was in 2017 when a gunman opened fire on a concert venue in Las Vegas from a hotel window overlooking the site, killing 59 and injuring hundreds. The horror if something remotely similar would happen at LeBreton.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

Not so sure about that, in fact I think the NCC wants all the buildings on Wellington to be offices. It actually makes sense, it creates a buffer for festival noise, and from a security standpoint it's best to have buildings that are easy to secure since there are sometimes very high profile people up on stage.

Putting on my paranoia hat here, but with residential buildings bordering the festival venue, any wacko with a gun can create a lot of damage. The deadliest mass shooting in modern US history was in 2017 when a gunman opened fire on a concert venue in Las Vegas from a hotel window overlooking the site, killing 59 and injuring hundreds. The horror if something remotely similar would happen at LeBreton.

I agree, it's what makes the most sense, but:

Flats District
A predominantly residential community defined by intimate, pedestrian-oriented streets and a variety of housing types.

https://ncc-ccn.gc.ca/projects/lebreton-flats-master-concept-plan

and

The NCC will lease a portion of the future Flats District to be developed as part of the planned LeBreton Flats community.

Our vision for this district is a residential community with diverse housing options, local amenities, and a focus on sustainability.

https://ncc-ccn.gc.ca/projects/the-flats-phase-development

[Kitchissippi]

To further my fantasy, here's what I would love to see in LeBreton for it. Cutting across the park is what's called the November 11 axis, the path that traces the angle of sunlight at 11 am November 11 directed towards the Memorial chamber to light up the Unknown Soldier's tombstone. Imagine a pair of buildings tall enough to cast a shadow on the lawn but leaving that path lit up. It could be spectacular

[rocketphish]

What about 395 Wellington St, after Library and Archives Canada relocates to Ādisōke? Or is LAC planning to keep a presence in both locations?

[Kitchissippi]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

What about 395 Wellington St, after Library and Archives Canada relocates to Ādisōke? Or is LAC planning to keep a presence in both locations?

As far as I know LAC is keeping that location, it's only moving books to Ādisōke other archival stuff stays put.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

To further my fantasy, here's what I would love to see in LeBreton for it. Cutting across the park is what's called the November 11 axis, the path that traces the angle of sunlight at 11 am November 11 directed towards the Memorial chamber to light up the Unknown Soldier's tombstone. Imagine a pair of buildings tall enough to cast a shadow on the lawn but leaving that path lit up. It could be spectacular

I do love this vision, but that land has already been handed over to a developer working on a residential proposal.

Originally Posted by rocketphish

What about 395 Wellington St, after Library and Archives Canada relocates to Ādisōke? Or is LAC planning to keep a presence in both locations?

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

As far as I know LAC is keeping that location, it's only moving books to Ādisōke other archival stuff stays put.

Yeah, there space at Ādisōke is just the public facing functions. It's a fraction of the size of their Wellington building.

[Kelnoz]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

Not so sure about that, in fact I think the NCC wants all the buildings on Wellington to be offices.

It's literally all residential in the master plan they produced...

[J.OT13]

Toronto and the Ford Government have been playing dirty against Montreal for the Defense Bank. Not a good look.

If Carney picks Toronto, we can expect backlash from Québec that could fuel PQ and separatist sentiment.

Banque de défense: Toronto cible le français comme un obstacle pour Montréal
Par Émilie Gougeon-Pelletier, IJL - Le Droit
12 mai 2026 à 11h01


Le gouvernement de l’Ontario et la Ville de Toronto, qui espèrent obtenir le siège social de la future Banque de la défense, de la sécurité et de la résilience, jouent du coude contre Montréal, allant jusqu’à vanter l’absence d’exigences en matière de langue et de culture dans leur «pitch» de vente.

https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/polit...-culturelles-JAHGTMBURZBZZKNTY5GQYKWDYQ/

[LeadingEdgeBoomer]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Toronto and the Ford Government have been playing dirty against Montreal for the Defense Bank. Not a good look.

If Carney picks Toronto, we can expect backlash from Québec that could fuel PQ and separatist sentiment.



https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/polit...-culturelles-JAHGTMBURZBZZKNTY5GQYKWDYQ/

Then a good compromise is Ottawa, between Toronto and Montreal.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

What about 395 Wellington St, after Library and Archives Canada relocates to Ādisōke? Or is LAC planning to keep a presence in both locations?

The Archives are expanding, not relocating.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by LeadingEdgeBoomer

Then a good compromise is Ottawa, between Toronto and Montreal.

Absolutely. Just like the 1850s when Toronto and Montreal were at it and Ottawa came from behind to take the win.

Vancouver might be the underdog that takes it this time. Maybe a little nudge to get BC to accept the new pipeline.

[LeadingEdgeBoomer]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Absolutely. Just like the 1850s when Toronto and Montreal were at it and Ottawa came from behind to take the win.

Vancouver might be the underdog that takes it this time. Maybe a little nudge to get BC to accept the new pipeline.

Could be. Like it or not, politics will be a factor in the decision. Do we know if there is a timeline for making one? It could be a long way off and a lot can happen in the meantime.

[LeadingEdgeBoomer]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Toronto and the Ford Government have been playing dirty against Montreal for the Defense Bank. Not a good look.

If Carney picks Toronto, we can expect backlash from Québec that could fuel PQ and separatist sentiment.



https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/polit...-culturelles-JAHGTMBURZBZZKNTY5GQYKWDYQ/

By playing dirty ,Ford can can turn people against Toronto. He sometimes mistimes what he does. Like when he ran the Reagan ads in the US. The content was correct , but he the timing of running them was off and he sabotaged talks on possible relief of the tariffs on steel and aluminum.

He might be sabotaging things again.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by LeadingEdgeBoomer

Could be. Like it or not, politics will be a factor in the decision. Do we know if there is a timeline for making one? It could be a long way off and a lot can happen in the meantime.

I heard Fall from someone on Discord who is usually pretty on the ball with this kind of stuff, but I don't remember an official source.

Originally Posted by LeadingEdgeBoomer

By playing dirty ,Ford can can turn people against Toronto. He sometimes mistimes what he does. Like when he ran the Reagan ads in the US. The content was correct , but he the timing of running them was off and he sabotaged talks on possible relief of the tariffs on steel and aluminum.

He might be sabotaging things again.

Absolutely. Ford needs to get his nose out of other people's business.

For this whole Defense Bank , he should have just supported Ontario, wherever that might be. Bad enough he supported Toronto specifically, but attacking Montreal is compromising his own position. Just waiting for him to attack Ottawa if our candidacy gains momentum.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by LeadingEdgeBoomer

Then a good compromise is Ottawa, between Toronto and Montreal.

Gatineau to reprimand Ford and negage Quebec complaints.