Canadian City Proposals

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

As much as Torontonians like to bitch, transit expansion throughout Greater Toronto/GH has never been this massive. It's not just TC but also huge GO expansion and electrification, Yonge North ext, Danforth Scar ext, Eglinton West, Miss & Finch LRT, as well as other projects throughout the province like OTrain, KW LRT expansion, London's BRT,, bringing back Northland and Hamilton's soon to start LRT.

Torontonians can cry all they want and bitch about Ford endlessly but the reality is that for them and for all Ontarians, transit enthusiasts have never had it so good.

Yup - the LRT and subway projects currently underway will basically double the size of the city's subway network. It's crazy, really. And that's just the subway network expansion within Toronto itself - there is also the Mississuaga and Hamilton LRTs, GO Expansion, etc.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Torontonians can cry all they want and bitch about Ford endlessly but the reality is that for them and for all Ontarians, transit enthusiasts have never had it so good.

Toronto has been screwed over for transit for years, for every tax dollar generated in the city of Toronto, only $0.04 cents stays in the city boundaries. If we just sit back and let elected officials do as they please we would be even further behind with mass transit. Had people in Toronto just sat back and remind quiet Rob and Doug Ford would have ripped up all of our streetcar tracks and removed all bike lanes. Sure we have a lot going on right now but I don't thank Ford for it. We would have more if it were not for him.

[Maldive]

95 St Joseph | 130.9m | 39s | Daniels | Core Architects l Approved

Talk about ARCHitecture… this one was approved last summer but site plan docs revealed a rather dramatic change to the tower.


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Earlier version.


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457 Richmond Street West | 57m | 19s | DC Dev Corp | a—A l Approved

After getting approved last May, this nice red brick infill building has now filed its site plan approval docs (negligible changes).


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[TorontoDrew]

Not bad @457 Richmond Street West, I'm not a huge fan of how it meets the street though.

Here is another one from Urbantoronto.ca

Address 137 Bond St, Toronto, Ontario, M5B 1Y2
Category Institutional (Education)
Status Pre-Construction
Number of Buildings 1
Height 103 ft / 31.38 m
Storeys 8
Developer Toronto Metropolitan University
Architect Hariri Pontarini Architects
TMU Centre for Student Wellbeing

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Toronto has been screwed over for transit for years, for every tax dollar generated in the city of Toronto, only $0.04 cents stays in the city boundaries. If we just sit back and let elected officials do as they please we would be even further behind with mass transit. Had people in Toronto just sat back and remind quiet Rob and Doug Ford would have ripped up all of our streetcar tracks and removed all bike lanes. Sure we have a lot going on right now but I don't thank Ford for it. We would have more if it were not for him.

That's not being rationale. Rob Ford is dust. As for Doug Ford's position on transit, you maybe right. I wouldn't know. What is clear is that Metrolinx is building its vision under his administration.

Political affiliation to one particular party regardless of leadership or direction is not a means to get more investment. What would be the point with a guaranteed vote for or against? It's a boon for career populists in which a good story has more value than doing something of value for their constituents.

[TorontoDrew]

What's not being rational? I've voted for all three major party's and mayors of different stripes. The Fords were the most recent to come in and steamroll over decades of work and studies done by teams of people who would destroy them in an intellectual debate about urban planning.

There should be a policy that states once a plan is fully vetted and funding is in place it should be protected from political plays that would use it as a way to get votes. Who's to say the next premier to come in doesn't tear up plans that Ford has in place?

100% build it as is, just get it done. But it's not being built as it should have been built and it will change a large section of the lower east side for ever. Time will tell how it effects the areas it's bulldozing through.

[WhipperSnapper]

Yeah, you're making no sense.

What transpired when Rob Ford was mayor is a distant memory. Rob Ford opposed transit city. He attempted to block paying for more studies (It was anywhere near as advanced as you think it was ) but, was defeated by democracy. A revised Transit City is being built and continues unimpeded despite a Ford as the head of government

Premier Doug Ford today is proving to be a lot more moderate than the media still sensationalizes him as. He, by and large, let's the provincial experts do their thang. That can't be said about the guy in Ottawa. I would wager on Ford in an intellectual competition with Trudeau. That would be something to see regardless on who would win. It'll never happen.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Toronto has been screwed over for transit for years, for every tax dollar generated in the city of Toronto, only $0.04 cents stays in the city boundaries. If we just sit back and let elected officials do as they please we would be even further behind with mass transit. Had people in Toronto just sat back and remind quiet Rob and Doug Ford would have ripped up all of our streetcar tracks and removed all bike lanes. Sure we have a lot going on right now but I don't thank Ford for it. We would have more if it were not for him.

Is there a source for this? It seems surprising to say the least.

[hipster duck]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Yeah, you're making no sense.

What transpired when Rob Ford was mayor is a distant memory. Rob Ford opposed transit city. He attempted to block paying for more studies (It was anywhere near as advanced as you think it was ) but, was defeated by democracy. A revised Transit City is being built and continues unimpeded despite a Ford as the head of government

We should be thankful that most of Transit City got cancelled. It was a terrible plan. It just fed ridership onto the existing Yonge and Bloor subway lines. The travel time estimates were, in many cases, lower than that of the bus services they were meant to replace and the capacity upgrade from a bus to a single low floor LRV isn't all that impressive, either.

We would have tied our hands had we built out Transit City and had no cash or political will to build the lines that we desperately need. Basically 100% of all the job growth since 2006 has taken place downtown, and Transit City was a plan that blatantly avoided building any new lines downtown.

[WhipperSnapper]

I guess it's federal capital investment from federal taxes revenues. Surely Toronto would a have a higher percentage of the population receiving federal government subsidies, for example.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Yeah, you're making no sense.
What transpired when Rob Ford was mayor is a distant memory.

It's short term memories like voters such as yourself that get us caught in loops of false promises and project cancellations. 9 years ago is not a distant memory seeing as we are only now seein transit improvements that were stalled for almost a decade.

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

What transpired when Rob Ford was mayor is a distant memory.
Premier Doug Ford today is proving to be a lot more moderate than the media still sensationalizes him as.

I agree, Ford is much better and more moderate then most think, though he is still as self serving as ever.

And I would put the intellect of Trudeau above that of Ford, one finished University the other dropped out. But I'm not sure why you are pitting those two against each other as when i was saying experts I'm talking about those hired by the TTC who plan new transit lines and not politicians. Andy Byford who was hired from the the Transportation of London provided enough experience and insight and was dismissed because he didn't want Fords SUBWWAYS SUBWAYS SUBWAYS! And fought to keep Transit City going right up until he was forced out by Toronto's outlying ward councilors. Now he works.

This is who would destroy Ford in a debate about urban planning, a man who has a diploma from the University of London on transportation, a man who is the current commissioner of the Transport of London, and also currently the President of the New York transit authority.

Had the Fords and not kicked him off the TTC we would already have a DRL and a massive LRT network that was funded at the time, and planned out.

But hey it's all a distant memory Whipper, nothing that happened around 10 years ago is still having an impact on our daily lives today.

[WhipperSnapper]

My final point

The point was not to judge him as one of 76 (?) city councillors during his brother's mayorship but, to judge him as premier today.

[Maldive]

310 Front West | 235.5m | 69s | H&R REIT | Hariri Pontarini l pre-construction

Not sure where this image was sourced but below is a massing diagram for an even taller (@ 77 storeys - 253 metres) 2nd tower on this site. The 2nd tower is identified as 320-330 Front Street West but no application docs yet. Hopefully HPA will be retained to design this tower too... would be quite a block (all 3 existing buildings would have to be demo'd).


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310 Front Street West: site plan approval docs were filed last year.


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[MonkeyRonin]

Originally Posted by Maldive

95 St Joseph | 130.9m | 39s | Daniels | Core Architects l Approved

Talk about ARCHitecture… this one was approved last summer but site plan docs revealed a rather dramatic change to the tower.


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I like the arch motif, but...that's one disjointed tower. It's like 4-buildings-in-1.

[Maldive]

100 Simcoe | 209.6m | 61s | BentallGreenOak | Hariri Pontarini l pre-construction

Some revised renderings with simplified colour palette (me likey ;-): Red brick now taken all the way up the tower and some nice arches transitioning from the heritage building to the new build above. One large podium volume coloured bronze and most of the balconies that were on the top half of the tower have been eliminated.


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(19 Duncan u/c is on the right).


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[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by Maldive

100 Simcoe | 209.6m | 61s | BentallGreenOak | Hariri Pontarini l pre-construction

Some revised renderings with simplified colour palette (me likey ;-): Red brick now taken all the way up the tower and some nice arches transitioning from the heritage building to the new build above. One large podium volume coloured bronze and most of the balconies that were on the top half of the tower have been eliminated.

This is a bad ass podium. It's huge! I'm loving the new trend of arches and brick we are seeing moving away from all glass structures. I think Hariri Pontarini might be my favorite local firm.

It would sit on the north side of 212 King Street West if that tower goes forward.
source: urbantoronto.ca
Address 212 King St W, Toronto, Ontario, M5H 1K5
Category Commercial (Office, Retail), Residential (Market-Rate Rental)
Status Pre-Construction
Number of Buildings 1
Height 1,023 ft / 311.80 m
Storeys 80
Number of Units 569
Developer Dream Office REIT, Humbold Properties
Design Architect SHoP Architects
Architect of Record Adamson Associates Architects
Landscape Architect STUDIO tla

[Nouvellecosse]

Yeah that one is pretty cool. The previous version was also decent but more conventional looking.

[niwell]

There's a LOT going on there, but for some reason I find it actually works? I'm a fan of these bigger podiums and use of red brick.

[WhipperSnapper]

I agree. The podium is comparably well composed with so much going on. The incorporated structure is still awkward. The theme is arches and the incorporated structure doesn't have any. Missed opportunity to add arched windows to the reused facade. The top floor and perhaps the ground floor

Did they buy the site next door or is the pocket park artistic license? That space between these podium is great.

[JHikka]

Definitely like the 100 Simcoe proposal. Chunky podiums but it somehow works with the towers above.