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Old Posted Feb 6, 2023, 3:55 AM
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The OL line is a true rapid transit corridor that connects tens of thousands of more people and hundreds of more destinations while the RL was not much more than a station bypass.
The main point is the stations through Riverside should have been below grade like the decades old plan. This could have been done while at the same time following the route north of the Danfourth.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2023, 1:38 PM
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I question certain parts of the Ontario Line, such as the sharp curves, detour-ish routing and taking up much of the surface rail corridor that could be used for GO and VIA (could still work) however, props to Doug Ford for getting this from planning to u/c in a relatively short amount of time. One of the very few positives coming out of the Ford Government.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2023, 2:03 PM
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Him and his late brother helped kill Transit City putting us decades behind with transit upgrades.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2023, 3:17 PM
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Him and his late brother helped kill Transit City putting us decades behind with transit upgrades.
He's been terrible in so many ways. We can still give him credit for getting one project hat has been stagnating for decades done.

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Proposal in Kanata North. 2,100 units. Main and Main. Architect is SvN. This is in the high-tech hub area of the western suburb, known for mostly bland office blocks surrounded by acres of parking. The complex to the top right with dark glass and red brick trim will be getting a similar treatment (torn down and rebuilt as mixed-use).

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Docs are up... wow! Developer is Main + Main, SvN is the architect.
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Wow
we really needed this.. but elsewhere?





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Old Posted Feb 6, 2023, 4:31 PM
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The main point is the stations through Riverside should have been below grade like the decades old plan. This could have been done while at the same time following the route north of the Danfourth.
In a perfect world. The keyword is decades in decades old plan. It's like shedding tears over The Cheapening TM when the realities of a development plan doesn't turn out like the early concepts in the rezoning phase. A fully underground proposed line is valueless if it is never going to get built.

Ontario has a massive debt load for a globally insignificant sub state. Budget restraint is necessary for operational and capital budgets.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2023, 4:42 PM
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Not bad Ottawa.

Living in one of these suburban towers will have the benefit of a view. Looks like there are some internal streets creating actual blocks. Doesn't seem to be a lot of mixed usage and/or active frontages
     
     
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Some updates on some T-Dot "I'm not technically under construction" projects.

The United BLDG | 179.52m | 52s | Davpart | B+H l site demolition and heritage retention

The heritage retention elements of this project seems to have taken forever… but it starts to make sense after viewing the (wow) photo below.

Floating… on steel.


Red Mars

Red Mars

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Red Mars

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Bloor & Dufferin | 128.9m | 37s | Hazelview | Turner Fleischer l site shoring

After months of demolition (and some heritage retention), shoring has begun on one of the parcels. This project is being delivered by 2 developers, Hazelview and Fitzrovia and includes
a mix of purpose-built rental and condo units (2,100 total), 50,000 sq. ft. of office space, 174,000 sq.ft. of retail, a Community Hub and daycare.



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I think this is the only survivor on site (the former Kent school) that will host a daycare centre.


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The pedestrian “High Street” that will bisect the site.


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Etobicoke Civic Centre | 75.82m | 16s | CreateTO | Henning Larsen l pre-construction

General contractor services were being negotiated last November/December and the project time-line says excavation will begin next month.

Danish firm Henning Larsen is the design lead on a number of projects in the city (including the Distillery District) ...but this one is likely going to be the first of their designs to get shovels in the ground.



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45 Balliol | 131.55m | 37s | G.R Feldman Investments | Core Architects l pre-construction

This rental and condo mix was quiet for a while and has now been resubmitted slightly shorter with a small drop in total units.


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265 Balliol | 91.43m | 27s | Park Property | BDP Quadrangle l site demolition

Another project on Balliol that is in the middle of demo-ing a large parking garage on site. Rental and retail here.


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Sugar Wharf Condominiums (Phase 2) | 299m | 90s | Menkes | a—A l site demolition

They made quick work clearing the south end of the site and are now biting into the large LCBO warehouses.


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The 3 towers just right of centre below.


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8 Shoreview Place, Stoney Creek (Hamilton).

43 & 38 storeys. Another huge set of towers proposed on the Lake Ontario shoreline in Stoney Creek.

     
     
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Also,

Please remember this is a *proposals* thread. There shouldn't be construction photos getting posted here.
     
     
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Please remember this is a *proposals* thread. There shouldn't be construction photos getting posted here.
Read my disclaimer... there's no home for demo's and no cranes yet lol.
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I don't recall anyone posting excavation doesn't belong in the construction threads that in the Canadian forum

I personal,y consider Infill tower in a park development involving the demoing of existing underground facilities to make way for the new development as an excavation phase
     
     
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Not bad Ottawa.

Living in one of these suburban towers will have the benefit of a view. Looks like there are some internal streets creating actual blocks. Doesn't seem to be a lot of mixed usage and/or active frontages
A few other images that breakdown usage:

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March and Main Developments Inc. [Main and Main] have prepared a concept plan in support of a Zoning By-Law Amendment application, to illustrate the potential redevelopment of the Subject Site at 555, 591, 595 and 603 March Road.

March and Main is proposing a redevelopment of the properties for a mid and high-rise mixed use development on a modified grid network of streets, with approximately 2100 residential units units. Eight residential and mixed-use buildings between six and 30 storeys, and two office buildings with seven or eight storeys are proposed. Ground-floor retail is proposed in select buildings along an east-west roadway at the south end of the site. A public park is anticipated to be provided along the Hines Road frontage. Vehicular access is proposed from March Road, Hines Road and Terry Fox Drive.

Architect: SvN Architects


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Old Posted Feb 7, 2023, 2:37 PM
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In a perfect world. The keyword is decades in decades old plan. It's like shedding tears over The Cheapening TM when the realities of a development plan doesn't turn out like the early concepts in the rezoning phase. A fully underground proposed line is valueless if it is never going to get built.

Ontario has a massive debt load for a globally insignificant sub state. Budget restraint is necessary for operational and capital budgets.

You can't blame a plan for being old, that doesn't make it not the right plan. The problem is governments change and people promise things just to get elected, each time plans get put on back burners. More studies and more work was done on the DRL then any other transit plan in this cities history. It even had all of it's environmental work signed off and permits in place. the ONLY reason why the line is not going underground at this point is because the Ford brothers wanted to cement votes in the outer parts of Toronto creating a divide between the inner and outer city.
A city the size of Toronto should be constantly building new subway lines at this point to catch up to our growth.

The Ford's have put Toronto decades behind with mass transit so him finally getting something done is not something to applaud him on.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2023, 4:35 PM
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The point was that at some point you need to build especially when the population is growing by 150,000 per year. Planning in place is all well and good but, to quote Caltrane, [i]Money talks, bullshit walks"[i/]

Ford has been around for less than 4.5 years and transit is still being built. These visions for the DRL would have being built and operating long before his term if they financially practical. Yeah, this is not how transit should be built but, that's just the way it is since the 1980s.

Rob Ford's mayorship is irrelevant. The cost of subways is too high for Toronto to build without senior level contributions.
     
     
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Yeah I generally have to agree with the "just build it already" sentiment. I don't care for the new alignment either but we can't waste any more time. We may have gotten a slight reprieve from Yonge crowding due to the pandemic but who knows how long that'll last.

One thing I actually like about the new plan is that it extends the line to cover more areas on the first phase. Most earlier versions of the DRL just went from Danforth to the financial core with the vague option of future extensions at some point. But the Ont line is supposed to extend all the way to Eglinton connecting the Thorncliffe and Flemingdon areas which, with all the highrises, already look like burgeoning transit nodes despite not having any higher order service. Given the amount of surface parking and empty lots mixed in, there's an opportunity for them to handle a lot more people and no SFH NIMBYs to interfere. Eglinton line helps those areas some, but without Yonge relief that might be more of a problem than a solution.
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I agree with build it already, I like the new stations, and my front door literally faces the train tracks at Dundas and Logan and I don't care about the noise that will come. But I'm not about to applaud Ford for stopping a planned project for a vote grabbing cheaper version through one of the cities oldest and densest neighborhoods.

Lets not forget that transit city had 120km of new light rail that Rob Ford and Doug Ford canceled calling it a gravy train and streetcars not LRT or Subway. That was already underway back in 2010, and had full support of environmental leaders and urban planners.

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This looks great by the way. Is that a hydroponic garden for the residence?
     
     
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36 more towers for Burnaby.
6800 and 7000 Lougheed Highway.
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The Ford brothers opposition to Transit City never had the majority. The Crosstown LRT is going to open sometime sooner or later. The Finch West LRT is under construction. This is Transit City being built. The city doesn't have the funds to build large scale transit. It takes investment from senior levels of government. Transit City was absorbed into Metrolinx's Big Move.

As for Premier Doug's government, capital transit projects are booming. Doug and this government is advancing transit forward not setting it back decades.
     
     
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As much as Torontonians like to bitch, transit expansion throughout Greater Toronto/GH has never been this massive. It's not just TC but also huge GO expansion and electrification, Yonge North ext, Danforth Scar ext, Eglinton West, Miss & Finch LRT, as well as other projects throughout the province like OTrain, KW LRT expansion, London's BRT,, bringing back Northland and Hamilton's soon to start LRT.

Torontonians can cry all they want and bitch about Ford endlessly but the reality is that for them and for all Ontarians, transit enthusiasts have never had it so good.
     
     
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