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Old Posted Dec 22, 2022, 5:31 PM
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This is brutal. Isnt it enough that this can has been kicked down the road on this forum repeatedly. Why does this forum continually and habitually keep defaulting to absolutely insignificant drivel. Every single time that the forum just barely starts getting on track again, it falls of a cliff. It is absolutely brutal. And just pointing this out, will get me pummeled for saying so. Oh, well. GO TO IT GUYS! Lets rehash your theories about NOTHING for the umpteenth time. And PLEASE go on about it for page after page after page. PLEASE dont mention the THOUSANDS of developments going on.
They like to hear themselves type.
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2022, 6:01 PM
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Astra, Astra, see all about it.


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Old Posted Dec 22, 2022, 9:09 PM
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This is brutal. Isnt it enough that this can has been kicked down the road on this forum repeatedly. Why does this forum continually and habitually keep defaulting to absolutely insignificant drivel. Every single time that the forum just barely starts getting on track again, it falls of a cliff. It is absolutely brutal. And just pointing this out, will get me pummeled for saying so. Oh, well. GO TO IT GUYS! Lets rehash your theories about NOTHING for the umpteenth time. And PLEASE go on about it for page after page after page. PLEASE dont mention the THOUSANDS of developments going on.
No one’s forcing you to read it. You make it sound like you’re being forced to read topics we bring up. Pretty easy to scroll until you see a photo of a development like Astra.

I’ve found skyscraper page forums get into a variety of discussion topics from garbage pick up for 3 pages on the Denver forum (not kidding) to professional sports teams here. If you want more development centric news check out the Salt Lake City development Reddit thread or go to Building Salt Lake. There are developments mentioned there that sometimes get missed here

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Old Posted Dec 22, 2022, 9:50 PM
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This is brutal. Isnt it enough that this can has been kicked down the road on this forum repeatedly. Why does this forum continually and habitually keep defaulting to absolutely insignificant drivel. Every single time that the forum just barely starts getting on track again, it falls of a cliff. It is absolutely brutal. And just pointing this out, will get me pummeled for saying so. Oh, well. GO TO IT GUYS! Lets rehash your theories about NOTHING for the umpteenth time. And PLEASE go on about it for page after page after page. PLEASE dont mention the THOUSANDS of developments going on.
I find complaining like this to be far more distracting then talk about potential future developments or issues in the valley. This is a discussion forum, people like to discuss things with like minded individuals.
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2022, 10:48 PM
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No one’s forcing you to read it.
Isn't he a moderator? Maybe I'm mixing him up with someone else...
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2022, 10:55 PM
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Someone mentioned this a few pages back but here are some recent (somewhat oversaturated) aerials of downtown via Scott Taylor:





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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 12:00 AM
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Isn't he a moderator? Maybe I'm mixing him up with someone else...
Me or Dallas? I’m not a moderator…re-reading this later and editing I think I see your sarcasm now lol

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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 12:01 AM
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Those aerials look amazing with all the lights. Thanks for sharing Atlas!
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 12:27 AM
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I love this design. I am a big fan of the Timbers design as well. The below grade field should be part of all arenas and stadiums in urban areas.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 3:05 AM
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Someone mentioned this a few pages back but here are some recent (somewhat oversaturated) aerials of downtown via Scott Taylor:





wOw, AlMoSt LoOkS lIkE a ReAl CiTy. Jk, I hate when people say that. Neat photos.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 3:25 AM
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wOw, AlMoSt LoOkS lIkE a ReAl CiTy. Jk, I hate when people say that. Neat photos.
If you squint, it does kinda look like a real city!
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 5:57 AM
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The number of “real” cities in the US can be counted on two hands but I promise Salt Lake is one of em!
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 4:20 PM
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On the subject of real cities Resonance Consultancy recently ranked Salt Lake City as one of the top 100 cities in the world! https://www.worldsbestcities.com/rankings/worlds-best-cities/]
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 4:27 PM
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Thing is there are a lot of other cities lining up for the next NFL or MLB expansion that have groups with just as much money in cities like Las Vegas, Nashville, Portland, Austin, Orlando, Mexico City, Montreal and even London (NFL). From what I’ve read Las Vegas and Nashville are very interested when it comes to MLB expansion. The other factor are the leagues and their interests. While the MLB is rumored to expand in the next decade, they haven’t expanded for over 2 decades. The NFL, well let’s just say we are far down the list in terms of “next” city with big players in cities like Toronto, London, Mexico City and other mega cities where the NFL wants to expand to. The MLB and NFL have their own agendas and I’m not sure small market SLC is necessarily on their radar. They’re about making money and we’ll have to compete with many other equal players or even bigger players. For MLB that will be a maximum of 4 new locations a minimum of 2 depending on if Oakland and Tampa move. If 4 new locations become available for MLB I could see SLC being a possible location for a new team. If only 2 become available, then I think Vegas and Nashville have the upper hand because they are just as interested as SLC, also have groups with money wanting an MLB team, and have some inside connections to the MLB. From what I’ve been reading we may be one of a handful of cities that consistently hosts the Winter Olympics because of our snow and climate change ousting other cities from being able to host in the future. Our outdoors scene whether that be the Winter Olympics, professional climbing etc. is what is the major draw for SLC, hence that giant outdoor convention that has come back. One more point, just because you build or have a stadium doesn’t mean you get a team. Look at Kansas City and the T-mobile arena they built. They really want an NHL or NBA team, even built a brand new arena, but haven’t landed one yet. Their population is similar to ours and is growing slower than ours but is growing.
Great points all. But I'm not talking about expansion.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 4:29 PM
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This is just a silly argument. It's extremely rare, if not basically unheard of, that a city goes from barely being batted around as an expansion candidate, to landing a team - at least in regards to the four major leagues.

Take the Nets. They formally announced their intentions to move from New Jersey to Brooklyn in 2012. Yet there was talks about the Nets moving to Brooklyn all the way back into the 1990s and was talked about in 2004 here.

The MLB has suggested they are set on 32 teams. They currently have 30. The good news for a market like Salt Lake is that there are two teams that are consistently talked about in regards to relocation: Tampa and Oakland. So, there's the potential for four new cities.

The question is whether or not there's a legitimate foundation set up to bring a team to Salt Lake over other, nationally recognized cities.

Nashville has a committee set up to do just that:

https://www.mlbmusiccity.com/

So does Portland:

https://portlanddiamondproject.com/

So does Montreal:

https://montrealbaseballproject.com/en/about/

Salt Lake? Zilch.

Also, buzz around the A's moving almost always mentions Vegas:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...commissioner-ranked-dead-attendance.html

No guarantee - but the noise is much more significant than anything Salt Lake related.

Salt Lake should focus on a NHL team - which is far more likely at this point than a MLB one.
Committees don't buy and move teams. Ever. Rich dudes do.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 4:30 PM
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This is brutal. Isnt it enough that this can has been kicked down the road on this forum repeatedly. Why does this forum continually and habitually keep defaulting to absolutely insignificant drivel. Every single time that the forum just barely starts getting on track again, it falls of a cliff. It is absolutely brutal. And just pointing this out, will get me pummeled for saying so. Oh, well. GO TO IT GUYS! Lets rehash your theories about NOTHING for the umpteenth time. And PLEASE go on about it for page after page after page. PLEASE dont mention the THOUSANDS of developments going on.
Major sports is a huge development issue.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 4:37 PM
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On the subject of real cities Resonance Consultancy recently ranked Salt Lake City as one of the top 100 cities in the world! https://www.worldsbestcities.com/rankings/worlds-best-cities/]
That's cool!

I checked out their list of tip 100 American cities and it didn't follow with the American cities in the world's best list.

Also, it had Provo 21, SLC 23 and Ogden 32 for top 100 in USA.
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 6:31 PM
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Great points all. But I'm not talking about expansion.
Are you talking relocation?
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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 6:39 PM
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On the subject of real cities Resonance Consultancy recently ranked Salt Lake City as one of the top 100 cities in the world! https://www.worldsbestcities.com/rankings/worlds-best-cities/]
This is awesome! Overall agree with many of the rankings. Orlando ranked above cities like Mexico City, Taipei, Miami and others was interesting…

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Old Posted Dec 23, 2022, 8:05 PM
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Christmas came early! We have two new design review applications today, both for phase II of the RL Hotel redevelopment. The main developer seems to be Denver-based McWhinney. Here's the site context:





The first submission (architect: Cannon Design) is the 203 FT, 323,500 sq. ft. Life Sciences Building that we saw a few pages back.







The second (architect: SCB) is a 329 unit, 380 FT residential tower! (8 levels of parking)







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