Time for Vancouver to Tear Down Its Viaducts?

[fredinno]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Even with that assumption, that's a 12.5 percent grade or more, not 6.7.

The Georgia Steps are similar, yes, and I believe they got rejected for being too steep and poorly integrated; the Georgia Ramp goes from Citadel to Pacific, a relatively more gradual slope. For the Dunsmuir Ramp, turning Citadel into a cul-de-sac & removing the Stadium-Chinatown concourse probably aren't very palatable options for a minimal increase in vehicle flow.



Um, how'd we get to New York? We were talking about D.C. and Paris. Granted, those were also bigger cities back then, but what about Birmingham or Columbus? It's almost like every ring road/bypass planner went to the same school and were taught to build 8-15 km from the city core or something like that.

Vancouver's suburbs were/are also built around anchors, and by corporations. Not sure what the difference is between an abandoned studio backlot and a quiet mall - to a condo developer, both are ripe for the taking.

Sure, Whalley isn't Vancouver yet in terms of desireability, might not ever be. No reason they can't give it a shot.

What are you using for height?
I'm using https://www.heywhatsthat.com/profiler.html and I got 23 feet rise and a 375 ft run (the profiler glitches out next to the viaduct and skytrain, so I had to make the run shorter and get the run off google earth manually.

The concourse is basically just used to store bicycles and Citadel is a residential street for Concord condos. Pardon me if I disagree with you here.

Because my first example of JFK Parkway is a ring road. But it doesn't matter, my point stands.

Both Columbus and Birmingham have what are pretty much downtown freeways as much as the old Chinatown freeway plan was supposed to be, encircling the city core. The city planning schools in the 60s taught planners to build downtown freeways.

I meant office developers and companies. Surrey can become another stack of condos no problem. But it can't be a downtown without a thriving office commercial sector, which has been the consistent problem in every other town center other than Vancouver proper.
Surrey is the 2nd biggest office developer after Vancouver in office space, but that's due to its large supply of industrial land, which tends to bring in office space as well.