Regina | New Mosaic Stadium

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Biff

I believe that was from Migs. Migs was sure about everything and wouldn't accept any outside information regarding the path a Conceptual Rendering would take to a final building rendering from the Actual Project Architect (page 86 of this thread).

Yup it was my mistake as i was told it would be very similar by the same people who today say it could be different. Would you like a ribbon for your investigative research?

That said, gonna be a great facility for the province!

[Biff]

Originally Posted by Migs

Yup it was my mistake as i was told it would be very similar by the same people who today say it could be different. Would you like a ribbon for your investigative research?

That said, gonna be a great facility for the province!

I think Viking said it best a few posts back - you guys get to go through the whole process the right way. I love the Bombers new IGF and have no doubts that the new field in Regina will be spectacular. Good on both of our teams for building modern facilities - lord knows we deserve it.

[Chadillaccc]

Is there still a solid ETA for when renders will be released from the prospective competiting firms?

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Is there still a solid ETA for when renders will be released from the prospective competiting firms?

Everything is still on schedule as far as I know. I think late this year is when we will see the plans, but I could be wrong; I don't remember the milestone dates anymore.

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Biff

I think Viking said it best a few posts back - you guys get to go through the whole process the right way. I love the Bombers new IGF and have no doubts that the new field in Regina will be spectacular. Good on both of our teams for building modern facilities - lord knows we deserve it.

Well said, I'm looking forward to the Banjo Bowl in Sept. anxious to see IGF first hand, looks great on TV. (Fingers crossed that the same firm that designed Cowboys Stadium, Lucas Oil Stadium, & the new Vikings stadium gets picked to design ours)

[dsmmace]

Actual Tender documents should be out before the end of the year I am told. Until then, most of us won't see anything.

[micheal]

the final 3

Bouygues Construction Graham Community Partners
◦Bouygues Building Canada - Construction
◦Graham Design Builders - Construction
◦Stantec – Prime Consultant / Executive Architect
◦NBBJ – Design Architect / Interiors
◦Buro Happold – Design Engineer
◦Gracorp Capital Advisors – Finance Team Lead

Clark Builders – Turner Construction
◦Clark Builders – Construction
◦Turner Construction – Construction
◦360 Architecture Canada Inc. - Design Lead
◦Arndt Tkalcic Bengert (“AATB”) – Architect of Record
◦Hochtief – Finance Team Lead

PCL Construction Management
◦PCL Construction Management – Construction
◦HKS – Lead Design and Sports Architect
◦B&H Architects – Architect of Record
◦TD Securities – Finance Team Lead

I've highlighted the possible architectural firms for the new stadium. Went to their web sites. Amazing designs

[Udon'tknow]

Site prep work has officially begun!

See newscast, go forward to about the 7 minute mark.

http://regina.ctvnews.ca/video?binId=1.1165857

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Udon'tknow

Site prep work has officially begun!

See newscast, go forward to about the 7 minute mark.

http://regina.ctvnews.ca/video?binId=1.1165857

Good to see some prep is occurring, but a bit of lazy reporting there... There is no pending referendum, that's for the water treatment plant.

[Stormer]

Great shot of Mosaic and the skyline form yesterday's game. Gonna miss the old girl.



http://www.rodpedersen.com/

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Stormer

Great shot of Mosaic and the skyline form yesterday's game. Gonna miss the old girl.

With all of that end zone seating Mosaic looks really impressive now. Considering the support that the team gets in relation to municipal and provincial population, I would daresay that Regina has ascended to the ranks of the true big-time football cities (as much as it pains me as a Bomber fan to admit that).

Watching yesterday's game on TV was really quite something... with the huge sea of green, if you didn't know any better you would think you were watching an SEC game from Alabama, Georgia or some such.

I hope Regina's new facility builds on the amazing atmosphere at Mosaic.

[Festivus]

Originally Posted by esquire

With all of that end zone seating Mosaic looks really impressive now. Considering the support that the team gets in relation to municipal and provincial population, I would daresay that Regina has ascended to the ranks of the true big-time football cities (as much as it pains me as a Bomber fan to admit that).

Watching yesterday's game on TV was really quite something... with the huge sea of green, if you didn't know any better you would think you were watching an SEC game from Alabama, Georgia or some such.

I hope Regina's new facility builds on the amazing atmosphere at Mosaic.

Unfortunately the new stadium is going to have significantly less seats than the current one does (with the upgrades).

[Baker58]

Originally Posted by Festivus

Unfortunately the new stadium is going to have significantly less seats than the current one does (with the upgrades).

Yes but it will likely be able to be expanded to seat a similar number.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by Festivus

Unfortunately the new stadium is going to have significantly less seats than the current one does (with the upgrades).

I would be satisfied with 33-35k seats and an expansion capacity of 45-50k, but I have a feeling we're going to get 30-33k, with expansion to 40k. I hope I'm proved wrong.

[esquire]

The smaller stadium trend seems to be catching on in the NFL too... Oakland is looking to build a 50,000 seat stadium to replace their current facility. That would be the smallest stadium in the NFL by a wide margin. Mind you, the facility wouldn't be cheap: $800 million.

I guess teams are using their building budgets to put in more lucrative revenue generators (club seating, lounges, skyboxes, retail and restaurant spaces, etc.) as compared to adding another 10,000 cheap seats at the top of the building.

A base capacity of 32,000 with expansion to 40,000 would strike me as very good for a city of Regina's size, and will allow for an excellent game atmosphere. I would not put it into the same category as Hamilton's undersized stadium, where the building's very small capacity will lead to a diminished fan experience.

[Nathan]

^ That would definitely be undersized. We are going to be stuck with this next stadium for 40 yrs or so. The CFL is definitely on an upswing, and Saskatchewan's diverse resources (as well as other sectors that are improving) should keep Saskatchewan on a growth trend for a while. 40k is way undersized for a max capacity, especially considering the 2 previous Grey Cups were 55k and 50k, with this one 45k, which is too low as it is. Yes, we will surely have some down seasons (which is why I don't want 45-50k permanent), but I think building so it can never go up to that point would be a mistake we will regret many times over.

[Chadillaccc]

I agree Nathan. I think Regina should probably aim for a permanent capacity of 35 000, with expanded capacity of at least 50 000. In fact, I think Regina could easily support a stadium with permanent seating for 40 000 people, but I don't think that's going to happen. This will already be the most expensive stadium thus far in this round of Canadian football stadium building, so that's pretty cool. Even with the 33 000 seats which is the current projected capacity of the new one, it will have the same seating capacity of Investors Group Field, a Stadium in a city nearly 4x Regina's metropolitan size. Nothing to sneer at for sure. Also, with the significantly larger budget for Regina's stadium compared to the others, you will be looking at most likely much higher end finishes and services... or so I would hope.

[Dillweed]

Originally Posted by esquire

The smaller stadium trend seems to be catching on in the NFL too... Oakland is looking to build a 50,000 seat stadium to replace their current facility. That would be the smallest stadium in the NFL by a wide margin. Mind you, the facility wouldn't be cheap: $800 million.

I guess teams are using their building budgets to put in more lucrative revenue generators (club seating, lounges, skyboxes, retail and restaurant spaces, etc.) as compared to adding another 10,000 cheap seats at the top of the building.

A base capacity of 32,000 with expansion to 40,000 would strike me as very good for a city of Regina's size, and will allow for an excellent game atmosphere. I would not put it into the same category as Hamilton's undersized stadium, where the building's very small capacity will lead to a diminished fan experience.

Thats not surprising to me. I have heard of a trend for smaller stadiums in the future for NFL teams. Heres a few stories that might explain that: http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/nfls-60-million-attendance-problem/14875/

http://nfl.si.com/2012/11/25/attendance-woes-haunt-nfl-in-week-12/

Interestingly enough the NFL has to deal with some of the same issues that the CFL does. And contrary to what a lot of people believe in this country when they compare the CFL to NFL. Not every NFL game is sold out, far from it. Even some of the premier franchises don't sell out every time. The blackout rule and high ticket prices might play a role in that.

But there are lots of teams in the NFL like Miami, Oakland, Buffalo, Cincinnati and others that have a lot of problems getting butts in seats for home games. No different than with some of the teams in the CFL.

The networks in the U.S. do a pretty good job of covering up the low attendance at some of the televised games. I remember watching a Miami home game last year. And every once in awhile the camera would briefly pan out into the upper decks and there wasn't too many people sitting up there.

So the NFL is still a big draw but they aren't perfect and they have their problems. I don't think people here that watch the CFL shouldn't get too excited when they see empty seats at a game. Like it only happens here, it happens a lot in the NFL too. Just not on the same scale as here.

The thing is that the teams in the NFL make more than double from the TV revenue than they do from ticket sales. So with the blackout rule in the NFL if your not selling out or close to it. It's gonna impact your ratings. I think in the future you will definitely see a trend towards smaller stadiums in the NFL.

I think Regina should be thinking a little to the future and look at having something in the order of 35,000 permanent seats. With expansion capability to at least 45,000+ for large scale events like Grey Cup. With is really where the pay off comes to the local economy is with large scale events.

It looks like to me yesterdays game had well over 35,000 in attendance. So I think they would have no problems filling the seats.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

You guys do realize that the requirements, budget and location are already set for the new stadium? We are going to get a 33K seat stadium with room to expand to 45K.

The "template" only had expansion capacity to 40k I believe. And we haven't been given the chance to see the final spec requirements. It could just be that 33k and 40k are the mins, and if more can be done (within budget) it might be allowed. If it is indeed 33k and 45k like you are saying, I will feel a bit better about it, but creeping closer to 50k would still make me happier.

Whatever they do, I hope they open with a bit of an expanded capacity; try to make the most of the first year and see if demand will keep up or if they should reduce down to the "permanent" seating as things go on. It's exciting getting closer to the reveal date though.

[Stormer]

It sounds like a bit more info came out at the City's open house last night. Demo of 3 buildings and building a new cell tower starts right after the Ex. They released the site parking and road plan. This is the largest version I could find. Obviously there will also be huge amount of parking across Elphinstone, especially until the Mosaic site is redeveloped. I am a little concerned about ingress and egress as this is a nightmare when 6000 people are at the Brandt Centre. I am not sure how it will work when there are 33,000. I would estimate there will only be onsite parking for about 12,000 in these green areas