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Originally Posted by ColDayMan
I mean, falling 35% or 50% is still, ya know, not good.
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But that was the very divergence I noted that started this whole discussion.
You then tried to argue that it was simple:
"infill".
I then showed that 21st century urban infill had nothing to do with center township Indy falling significantly further than old city Columbus during the urban dark ages.
And your response appears to be
"who cares, matters of degree don't matter anyway".
Excuse me for thinking that they do. Especially when we account for the fact that ~25% of the population decline in any urban center over the last 5 decades of the 20th century was due to the decrease in average household size across the entire nation over that time period. Taking that 25% out of their population declines as an external given, it becomes apparent that center township Indy lost a lot more actual households than old city Columbus did. Ditto for old city KC vs. old city Milwaukee.
Yes, they ALL declined, but clearly not at the same rates.
I find exploring the reasons behind those kinds of differences fascinating.
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Originally Posted by eschaton
Downtown Indy has about 22,000 people as well, while Downtown Columbus has about 10,000.
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how are you defining "downtown" here?
looking at 2020 tract maps I get:
downtown Indy - 5 tracts - 19,189 people - 3.9 sq. miles -
4,920 ppsm
downtown Columbus - 3 tracts - 9,687 people - 2.2 sq. miles -
4,403 ppsm
not really an earth-shattering density difference there.
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Originally Posted by eschaton
there's a lot of activity in Broad Ripple too, though it's sort of this weird isolated node surrounded by semi-suburban density.
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Important to note here that Broad Ripple is 3 miles outside of center township Indy.
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Originally Posted by Velvet_Highground
While other people might argue about the Chicago effect it’s the reason why constraints were placed on Detroit’s ability to grow by turning annexation into an electoral issue.
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what "Chicago effect" are you speaking of?
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