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Old Posted May 20, 2026, 6:14 PM
thenoflyzone thenoflyzone is offline
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Last week you were sure YOWPVR was weight restricted …
That's not what I said. You're putting words in my mouth. I said I wouldn't be surprised IF they were weight restricted. That's two very different things.

You're lucky those 200NM winds were only 75 mins. Another hour or so of that kind of winds, (which is normal in winter btw), and your E295s would have been weight restricted.

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OR nowhere near capacity ….
lol. You basically confirmed they weren't at or near capacity.

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1-off re-routing which necessitated a fuel stop
That I know of. Who's to say there weren't more? I didn't track these flights on a daily basis. I just happened to notice it on one particular day.

Bottom line is, operating 2,100nm routes westbound (in the case of PVR) in winter on a 2,600nm frame is cutting it close, You clearly work for PD, and seem to take it personal that these aircraft weren't meant to fly these routes.

AC's old A320s had a similar range (~2,500nm) when flying YUL-LAX/SFO during the winters years ago. They were often weight restricted, or had to divert for fuel on days with a 200nm jetstream. This is a fact. Heck, even newer A320ceo's (B6, UA, etc), which have a 3,000nm range, have had to divert on transcontinental runs from the east coast to LAX/SFO.

So our point about the E295 on near similar distances is just as valid.

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If daytime NA >> EU flights cater to O/D, How many of the 2,500 DAILY eastbound seats on Canada/Europe’s largest O/D market (MTL<>Paris) are during the day?
As I said before, airline economics take precedence over passenger convenience. That's the main reason why there aren't more daytime flights across the Atlantic.

Also, you'd be susprised at the amount of connecting passengers AF takes on YUL-CDG. And those only work with red-eyes.

The argument "if daytrippers are so popular, why aren't there more of them" is not a valid argument justiflying that daytrippers aren't a more civilized way to cross the pond. That's the only point we are trying to make.

And let's remember that half of all TATL flights are daytrippers, because all the westbound flights from Europe to NA are flown during the day.

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https://www.travelpress.com/air-transat-launches-new-ottawa-london-gatwick-flights/

“And Ponce continued: “Combined with the connections offered by our partner Porter Airlines from multiple cities across Canada and the United States, this route positions Ottawa as a genuine gateway to Europe. It perfectly reflects the type of growth we’re focused on – targeted, well-connected routes that strengthen our position in the transatlantic market“

I hope my read-between-the-lines skills are good. Sounds like more is coming!
Highly doubt that. If oil prices stay this high, I think TS is gone by the end of this year or next.

https://canadianaviationnews.ca/transat-provides-update-on-the-volatility-of-aviation-fuel-prices/

In March and April, they spent $70 million more than anticipated due to fuel prices. That's very bad for an airline that hasn't been profitable for a number of years now.

PD won't be far behind, but as long as someone keeps pumping equity into PD, we can't be sure of anything. TS is a publicly traded company. Their books are out in the open, and it doesn't look good.

Spirit was the US's first casualty of these high oil prices. I think a Canadian carrier or two aren't too far behind.

Last edited by thenoflyzone; May 20, 2026 at 6:40 PM.
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