Canadian Spaceport Thread

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by someone123

The land area is under 1,000 square kilometers and a lot of that is not developable.

If there were direct flights from Canadian cities and no passport required I think demand would be incomparable to US Caribbean islands because Canada has no equivalent of Florida, California, Hawaii, etc.

If T&C couldn't compete on price that just wouldn't be true - it's why Americans flock to Cancun or the Dominican Republic despite Puerto Rico being there. Puerto Rico cannot compete on cost.

T&C joining would make it a popular retirement destination most likely as residency issues disappear, and I'm sure tourism would jump, but I doubt it would be flooded with insatiable demand.

[someone123]

I don't think these comparisons are very meaningful. Americans can already build cheap housing in Florida or Arizona and live there without work authorization/visa or healthcare issues which are the big differentiators.

I think unaffordability in BC and Ontario shows how limited options are for Canadians. We don't have domestic sunbelt areas or even a lot of choices of cities to move to.

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Here's a less technical explanation:

• Video Link

It's funny how these 2 Russian women that are now Canadians living in the GTA are more informed and bullish on Canada than those that are multi-generational Canucks

I've watched a few of their videos before. They usually give quite an honest assessment on whatever topic they're discussing. Anastasia-in the video is from Saint Petersburg. Anna, her partner is from Tyumen, a Western Siberian City of roughly 850,000 East of the Urals. Occasionally they've brought up how much better life is in Canada compared to Russia.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by Wigs

It's funny how these 2 Russian women that are now Canadians living in the GTA are more informed and bullish on Canada than those that are multi-generational Canucks

Setting aside debating claims in this particular video, it can be refreshing to see an outsider perspective with less baggage. A lot of Canadians "know" NS is small, poor, barren, under 8 feet of snow, inhabited by Newfies, etc. while Americans or Europeans (often from equally or more impressive places than we have in Canada) don't have the same level of preconceived notions or stereotypes to lean on and observe things more clearly.

[J81]

This is nothing but a money laundering exercise from what I can see. Far as I have read, this land is owned by the NS government who leases it to a “private company” owned by a Liberal politician who in turn leases it back to the federal government for 20 million dollars a year? Is this the same spaceport we are talking about?

[gaviscon]

Innospace might be one of the first foreign launch providers to use the Spaceport. They signed an LOI with Maritime Launch:

https://spaceq.ca/south-korean-launch-pr...ian-expansion-via-spaceport-nova-scotia/

Few days ago partnered with RSAT:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/inn...mponents=1&wcseo=1&bundles=feat-es2020-c

[WhipperSnapper]

Signning leases must up the valuation. So many companies like Innospace with leases at multiple global sites with zero successful launches. Electron is a highly successful rocket for commercial launches. It makes no money.

The Canadian government throws billions at the most stupidest things right now. With that in mind, $200 million over ten years for a Canadian launch site to launch classified missions is reasonable. Never will be a profitable commercial provider.

[ScreamingViking]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

I wish clueless people had less access to the internet.

This is being approved for two reasons:

1) Sovereign launch capability.

2) Access to orbital regimes that are particularly important to Canada.

I can send you a link to my Orbital Mechanics textbook from university if you want to do the math yourself to verify.

Were you having a bad day or something? No need to make a dig to get your point across.

Thanks for your educational thoughts. I'm sure I can find a good number of videos talking about why an equatorial launch is best. I found one that presented a balanced argument - the question for me is then, what kind of space-launching country do we want to be? Light-medium lift, or heavy? What kinds of satellites do we want to specialize in launching? And is there a business case for this facility, illustrating scenarios and ultimately why it's a good alternative and better than other launch sites or scenarios (in Atlantic Canada and elsewhere, including renting pad space from the Americans or Europeans)

Our governments seem to have gotten away from presenting their cases for spending. The Ontario PCs have been particularly bad at that. Even if this is relatively little money each year over 10, I think it should be supported by a solid business case that was done before funding was announced.

[Taeolas]

Well, one spinoff of the Sub-deal will be a boon for Nova Scotia.... and it has nothing to do with the water.

German aerospace company signs 10-year deal to use N.S. space launch pad

Halifax-based Maritime Launch Services Ltd. says Germany's Isar Aerospace plans to build a dedicated complex for its Spectrum rocket at the Nova Scotia company's site near Canso, N.S., on the Eastern Shore.

The two-stage rocket is designed to carry small and medium-size satellites into space. The German company, which has already established its first launch site in Norway, has created a new Canadian subsidiary, Isar Aerospace Canada Inc.