Statistics Canada Reports II

[BlackDog204]

Canada 41,472,100 (-103,500)

Newfoundland 548,557 (-1,000)
PEI 182,000 (-500)
Nova Scotia 1,090,100 (-1,800)
New Brunswick 867,400 (-1,200)
Quebec 9,033,900 (-24,200)
Ontario 16,136,500 (-55,900)
Manitoba 1,505,100 (-2,000)
Saskatchewan 1,265,900 (-300)
Alberta 5,048,200 (+7,300)
British Columbia 5,658,500 (-24,700)

[MolsonExport]

Toronto condo market in a year from now

[BlackDog204]

The total number of non-permanent residents declined by 6% in Q4, to 2,676,441 people. This works out to roughly 161,000 non-permanent residents, who left Canada, and returned to their respective country.

The number of landed immigrants, who came to Canada in the last 3 months of 2025, was 83,168, which is a dramatic drop of -19.6% for Q4


Only Alberta had a net population gain, with an increase of 7,300.
Ontario, BC, and Quebec suffered the most, losing over 20,000 people for each province. Ontario experienced a loss of nearly 56,000 people.

Per capita, Ontario lost the most, followed by British Columbia, then Quebec.

[Innsertnamehere]

Crazy to think that we have another 2 years of this until the temporary immigration phase out is done. There still another 650,000 temporary immigrants who need to leave to hit the government targets..

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Canada 41,472,100 (-103,500)

Newfoundland 548,557 (-1,000)
PEI 182,000 (-500)
Nova Scotia 1,090,100 (-1,800)
New Brunswick 867,400 (-1,200)
Quebec 9,033,900 (-24,200)
Ontario 16,136,500 (-55,900)
Manitoba 1,505,100 (-2,000)
Saskatchewan 1,265,900 (-300)
Alberta 5,048,200 (+7,300)
British Columbia 5,658,500 (-24,700)

Good to see Trudeau-era excesses being corrected. Is it any wonder housing is becoming more affordable?

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Good to see Trudeau-era excesses being corrected. Is it any wonder housing is becoming more affordable?

Cause, meet effect?

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Good to see Trudeau-era excesses being corrected. Is it any wonder housing is becoming more affordable?

But is it, though?

I mean, as a technicality, I guess, but really, it's just stagnated in some markets. I wouldn't call any of it more affordable.

[someone123]

Originally Posted by Spocket

I mean, as a technicality, I guess, but really, it's just stagnated in some markets. I wouldn't call any of it more affordable.

Rents are down in Canada, and a lot in some markets: https://rentals.ca/national-rent-report

[hipster duck]

Originally Posted by someone123

Rents are down in Canada, and a lot in some markets: https://rentals.ca/national-rent-report

If all you're looking for is the ability to put a roof over your head in a high-priced city, then $1,877 for a 1BR in New Westminster (-12% YoY) or $1,913 for a 1BR in the East York section of Toronto (-10% YoY) is pretty decent. Neither of those areas are hip, but they're easy places to live without a car and have access to hundreds of thousands of jobs within easy transit access.

[KnoxfordGuy]

After the population update the counting on the population clock has increased a lot. It went from counting about 19 people a day to now 664 as of 4:07 Atlantic Time. Perhaps an error?

[someone123]

Originally Posted by hipster duck

If all you're looking for is the ability to put a roof over your head in a high-priced city, then $1,877 for a 1BR in New Westminster (-12% YoY) or $1,913 for a 1BR in the East York section of Toronto (-10% YoY) is pretty decent. Neither of those areas are hip, but they're easy places to live without a car and have access to hundreds of thousands of jobs within easy transit access.

Anecdotally I've also noticed landlords treating their tenants a lot better in Vancouver. What a shocker that the laws of supply and demand do in fact apply to housing.

[ssiguy]

^^^ StatsCan did make a note that these new numbers maybe underestimated and revised upwards in the next quarter due to some of these students/TFW being moved up to permanent residents.

Personally, I hope that's not the case. Canada needs to have several years of solid population decline until we have some sanity back to housing sector and our young people can get entry level jobs again.

[someone123]

I feel bad for young people who have a hard time entering the labour market. It isn't a big deal for young people looking for McJobs who have wealthy parents, but it is a big deal for those from lower class families. Finding an entry-level rung on the career ladder right out of school is also important.

I remember a while back seeing a study that showed a significant lifetime earnings effect based solely on whether or not students graduated into a recession, which presumably impacted their first job and entire career trajectory to some degree. We have basically been in a 6 year (or 10 year?) recession for a lot of younger and working class people.

[Chocolite]

Originally Posted by someone123

Rents are down in Canada, and a lot in some markets: https://rentals.ca/national-rent-report

I would call that a slight easing up, but not really any sort of trend to affordability. Rent and house prices will drop somewhat, stabilize and then will climb again. I don’t think easing up will last very long.

[nname]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

^^^ StatsCan did make a note that these new numbers maybe underestimated and revised upwards in the next quarter due to some of these students/TFW being moved up to permanent residents.

Personally, I hope that's not the case. Canada needs to have several years of solid population decline until we have some sanity back to housing sector and our young people can get entry level jobs again.

You mean those jobs that are being slowly replaced by AI?

[Architype]

Originally Posted by nname

You mean those jobs that are being slowly replaced by AI?

Not all; grocery store employees, security guards, restaurant workers, janitorial, etc.?

[nname]

Originally Posted by Architype

Not all; grocery store employees, security guards, restaurant workers, janitorial, etc.?

Technology are slowly replacing them even before AI... Self-checkouts, security camera, motion detection and facial recognition, self-ordering kiosks, mobile ordering, delivering robots, cleaning robots, etc.

My recent trip to Asia I hardly see any human taking my orders at restaurants anymore, so they could put a single waiter to man an entire restaurant. And considering labour are much cheaper over there.

Anyways, this is getting off topics, but I just want to say that the number of non-permanent residents are hardly the only reason that young people can't find a job. I feel bad for them, but don't want to hire them either even though I'm allowed to. Otherwise I'll just be spending time and resources to train them so they can get the qualification to go elsewhere (more recognizable companies) that don't hire entry-level people...

[kora]

Largest population increase by metro area, 2024-2025 (US and Canada)

Houston: 126,720
Dallas: 123,557
Atlanta: 61,953
Phoenix: 59,065
Charlotte: 54,122
Austin: 53,796
Calgary: 52,351
Edmonton: 50,717
Washington: 50,206
Seattle: 43,068

“Slow Growth Impacts Nation’s Largest Counties Hardest”, US Census Bureau (see Table 10)
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2026/2025-popest-metro-micro-counties.html#table-10

Population estimates, July 1, by census metropolitan area and census agglomeration, Stats Canada
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710014801

[ssiguy]

Originally Posted by someone123

I feel bad for young people who have a hard time entering the labour market. It isn't a big deal for young people looking for McJobs who have wealthy parents

I disagree. Even though kids from wealthy parents may not need the money, it is still a big deal.

Your first McJob is more than just about money. It gives a kid a sense of independence not having to rely on M & D in the first place. It's a place where they start to understand the workings and expectations of a day's work and teaches responsibility and interpersonal skills that they don't get with just hanging around their friends. These McJobs allows a kid to understand the world outside their academic and social bubble. It forces the kids to interact with kids of different socio-economic backgrounds which is essential for these rich kids in particular as many urban ones live in their wealthy neighbourhoods and go to school and socialize only with their wealthy friends.

A first job is a real social milestone for our young people and just giving them away to foreigners ala Trudeau, does them and society in general, a great disservice.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

A first job is a real social milestone for our young people and just giving them away to foreigners ala Trudeau, does them and society in general, a great disservice.

Wow, just wow.

Everyone has equal opportunity for entry level jobs in Canada. That was true in 1980, true in 2000, and true today. FACTS: Canadian born are far less willing to flip burgers or dish out Timbits.

MAGA has given license for people to openly express their underlying bigotry. The overt racism in the Canada Section on SSP has been one of the biggest shocks the last 5 years. The only bigger shock is how comments like this are allowed to go unchallenged. Your dismissive condescending descriptor 'foreigner' is nauseating. They are LEGAL immigrants like your ancestors who are contributing to this country, paying taxes, and on their way to citizenship. And why do I get the sense that people making anti-immigration comments would be fine with it if these immigrants were from England?

Shame on you.