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Old Posted Dec 29, 2025, 10:26 PM
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El Segundo Blvd. once upon a time changed to Burton Avenue at Santa Fe (alias State). The lime green blotch designates our area of interest:


Detail from map 72 of 1942 Renié Atlas of Los Angeles
     
     
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EAT A PITA mystery location.


Currently on eBay

It's the intersection of N Fairfax and Rosewood Avenues in West Hollywood. EAT A PITA is no longer there (eventually demolished around 2007/2008 according to GSV).


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Regardless of what you think of A.I., this video reconstruction of 1923 Los Angeles is very well done.

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EDIT: It looks like the same channel posted an 1880 version of LA, too:

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Both of these videos were posted within the last two weeks, so I'm pretty sure they've never been posted in Noirish LA before...

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Old Posted Dec 30, 2025, 3:04 AM
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Thank you, Hoss. ....


Here's another mystery location that will be difficult to solve.

"Photograph Glendale California Home House Old Car 1950-60's Street View"


eBay

Hmm, I wonder why the seller thinks it's Glendale Ca? .........*turns the photograph over*

Aha! . . .from the developer's stamp on the back of the photo.





But wait, there is street number.



It's a bit blurry. (try squinting)



I certainly hope the little house is still standing. (along with the similar house next door)
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It's the intersection of N Fairfax and Rosewood Avenues in West Hollywood. EAT A PITA is no longer there (eventually demolished around 2007/2008 according to GSV).


GSV
Eat a Pita was one of the best places for a pita sandwich. started going there in mid 70s and loved taking people there that had never been. with the hot peppers and sitting in the cool outside patio. couldn't be beat.
     
     
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El Segundo Blvd. once upon a time changed to Burton Avenue at Santa Fe (alias State). The lime green blotch designates our area of interest:


Detail from map 72 of 1942 Renié Atlas of Los Angeles
Thanks odinthor,

That makes sense. It looks like State became Santa Fe sometime between the 1942 map and the 1946 ad for the motel.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2025, 10:58 AM
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EDIT: It looks like the same channel posted an 1880 version of LA, too:

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Both of these videos were posted within the last two weeks, so I'm pretty sure they've never been posted in Noirish LA before...
Thanks for posting these videos Scott Charles. The AI animations are very interesting in bringing the old scenes to life, but also amusing for their inaccuracies, e.g. did you notice how many tall objects became smoke-belching chimneys?

I've been trying to figure out where the obelisk at around 2:00 is/was located - does anyone recognize it?

Lastly, I assume that they meant Pio Pico where the caption says "P O Pico" at around 3:20.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2025, 4:31 PM
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I've been trying to figure out where the obelisk at around 2:00 is/was located - does anyone recognize it?
I believe that's the Bunker Hill Monument in Charleston (Boston), Massachusetts, HossC.


https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:0p096w76c

That's the thing about these A.I. videos (and I've watched more than a few of them)... it seems the people who make them are pretty lax about doing their research. Clearly, Bunker Hill in Massachusetts and Bunker Hill in Los Angeles are two different places.

In the last week, I've watched TWO “History of Los Angeles” videos that mentioned The Roxy on Sunset Blvd... but BOTH of them showed some random movie theater called The Roxy instead of showing the actual Roxy nightclub on Sunset Blvd. Sloppy research.


https://www.peek.com/los-angeles-california/r067/private-limo-tour-customizable-los-angeles-experience/a0yb4yz

The thing I noticed most in the two videos I posted is that they both remove any text that appears on a building:





I suspect they chose to remove the text because A.I. tends to handle text very poorly. For example, here's what A.I. upscaling does to the sign on the left side of the photo of the Roxy I posted above:



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Lastly, I assume that they meant Pio Pico where the caption says "P O Pico" at around 3:20.
That is correct. It's likely that the voice narration on the video is A.I. generated. The captions are certainly A.I. generated... when it hear the A.I. narrator say “Pee Oh Pico”, it interprets that phonetically as “P.O. Pico”, hence the typo.

These A.I. videos on YouTube are chock-full of errors like this. Nobody ever seems to proofread the scripts or check the narration for errors...

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Old Posted Dec 30, 2025, 4:39 PM
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How about a difficult mystery location to start the week-


I happened upon this very cool snapshot yesterday on eBay

It show a dapper gentleman astride his motorcycle with a girl on the back.


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Seller's description:..VINTAGE PHOTOGRAPH FASHION MOTORCYCLE CARS GLENDALE LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PHOTO

The only clue - as to the exact location- is the large apartment building in the background on the right. I know it's a shot in the dark but I thought one of you fine sleuths might recognize it.


Oh, and does anyone recognize the make of the motorcycle?
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The motorcycle is either a 1929 or 1930 Harley Davidson. Can't pick out enough detail to determine if it is the 45ci DL or the 74ci VL model.
     
     
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Thanks so much, Carter Auto Motive. ......I appreciate your help.

Here's another one you might be able to help solve.

The snapshot was taken somewhere in Long Beach, CA, perhaps after a flood. (the street in the backgrouund appears to be partially washed away)


Originally found on eBay


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I believe that's the Bunker Hill Monument in Charleston (Boston), Massachusetts, HossC.
Thanks, Scott Charles. I didn't think to look on the other side of the country!

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That is correct. It's likely that the voice narration on the video is A.I. generated. The captions are certainly A.I. generated... when it hear the A.I. narrator say “Pee Oh Pico”, it interprets that phonetically as “P.O. Pico”, hence the typo.

These A.I. videos on YouTube are chock-full of errors like this. Nobody ever seems to proofread the scripts or check the narration for errors...
I was watching a couple of police pursuit videos a few months back, and the AI narration was so laughable that I had to give up. They even had a human pop up periodically in the corner of the screen to try and convince you it was a real person talking, although his mouth never matched what you were hearing. I've also seen links to videos claiming that classic sports cars were being brought back in updated forms. Literally 10 seconds in and you realize that it's all AI generated nonsense.

I'm with the meme I saw recently which says:
Oh, you added a new AI feature? Impressive. Very nice. Now, show me how I disable it.
     
     
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A soggy Rose Parade
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DHI

Looks like Helms Bakery sponsored a Disney themed float. The next time it rained on a Rose Parade wasn't until:

2006 (Jan. 2nd)
Disney's Dwarfs carried umbrellas...


I was at that Rose Parade. It rained all night and then all through the parade.

ParsTimes -- Many photos of the 2006 parade at this link.

This year's Pasadena forecast: Periods of rain, heavy at times early. Potential for heavy rainfall. High 61F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100%. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected.

This year is the 137th Rose Parade. Overall, rain has not affected the parade much at all. Less than once a decade on average, and only twice since 1950, and if the 2006th parade had been on Jan. 1st instead of Jan. 2nd, it wouldn't have affected that one. Rain has affected the parade on these years: 1895, 1899, 1906, 1910, 1916, 1922, 1934, 1937, 1955, and 2006.
     
     
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Jean Harlow and her first husband, Charles McGrew, about 1927....we can see Dodge-Plymouth and Nash dealerships, this may have been on one of the city's "auto rows".

Photo via Pinterest.
     
     
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I was watching a couple of police pursuit videos a few months back, and the AI narration was so laughable that I had to give up. They even had a human pop up periodically in the corner of the screen to try and convince you it was a real person talking, although his mouth never matched what you were hearing. I've also seen links to videos claiming that classic sports cars were being brought back in updated forms. Literally 10 seconds in and you realize that it's all AI generated nonsense.

I'm with the meme I saw recently which says:
Oh, you added a new AI feature? Impressive. Very nice. Now, show me how I disable it.
It's pretty awful, HossC. Estimates are that between 20% and 30% of all new YouTube videos are A.I. generated. I usually block any channel that uses A.I., but the motion graphics in the two videos I posted were so good, I posted them anyway.

In retrospect, I probably should have included a warning about that - my apologies for not doing so.
     
     
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Jean Harlow and her first husband, Charles McGrew, about 1927....we can see Dodge-Plymouth and Nash dealerships, this may have been on one of the city's "auto rows".

Photo via Pinterest.
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1934:


LA Times, 7/8/1934

1937:


LA Times, 7/30/1937

Pulver in retirement? 1941:


LA Times, 5/4/1941
     
     
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In processing the above, I ran across this detritus from a posting (not originally of mine) a few years ago in which, as I recall, we were trying to identify the show biz people in photographs hung in a restaurant (Brown Derby?), blurry because the photos were not the subject of the photo, only in the background. We got down to the following three which we couldn't identify. Try again?


odinthor files, from earlier NLA posting
     
     
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It's pretty awful, HossC. Estimates are that between 20% and 30% of all new YouTube videos are A.I. generated. I usually block any channel that uses A.I., but the motion graphics in the two videos I posted were so good, I posted them anyway.

In retrospect, I probably should have included a warning about that - my apologies for not doing so.
I've just watched the 1880 Los Angeles video again, and I spotted a few more funny AI creations.

At around 1:42 there are two horses pulling an empty carriage.

At around 7:22 there's smoke pouring from the overheard power lines of the streetcar as if it were a steam locomotive.

At around 9:15 when the video discusses the Baker Block, the AI suddenly switches to a bright white building with completely different proportions.

I also started to watch their 1880 video of London to see how it compared. I quit after seeing smoke rising from the masts of the sailing ships docked along the Thames. BTW. The intrusive captions referred to the river as the Tems - another example of a soundalike word.

While the 1923 AI video adds color to old Los Angeles, I recently re-watched Harold Lloyd's 'Safety Last' where you can see genuine moving images of street scenes from 1923. I think I'll give AI a miss.
     
     
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........(does anyone know W.C. Field's home address?)
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Actually, I sort of do.

My buddy used to work for Christopher Franke, one of the guys from Tangerine Dream. Franke lived in W.C. Fields' former home.

I visited my friend there, but it was some time ago, probably the late 90s. As such, I can't remember the exact address, but it was in this area right by Lake Hollywood, I think on Wonderview Drive. Supposedly his next door neighbor was Ice T.
SPEAKING OF OLD POSTS, the exchange above is from February 2020. I got in touch with my aforementioned friend, and I was off by a whopping three miles!

THIS is the location of W.C. Fields former home, which I mentioned in my post above:



Despite what I wrote above, Christopher Franke did not live in this home, though he did own it. The home that Franke lived in was one of the houses above this house. Obviously, Franke is mega rich to be able to afford two homes in this area!

_____


At one point, I explored the entire home for myself. There's actually a semi-interesting story behind my exploration. Go ahead and read it if you're bored!

My friend Laurence was in charge of Franke's fan club. He would go to the house, open the mail, extract the checks, and then send off whatever items a person ordered - things like CDs of the Babylon 5 soundtrack and stuff like that.

The “office”, if you can call it that, was the first room you entered into in the house... it might have been a converted garage or something.

Franke didn't care what time Laurence worked at, so Laurence would often come by very late at night after finishing his bartending job.

Laurence had previously told me that the old house gave him the creeps. In short, he was convinced the house was haunted.

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So late one night, Laurence calls me on the phone, and he's freaking out. He told me he'd gone outside to have a smoke, and when he came back in, all of the furniture had been rearranged.

But that's not the part that really upset him. He told me he was downstairs, sitting at a desk and filling out the orders when he distinctly heard footsteps running across the floor above him, ending with the sound of a slamming door! He insisted they were HEAVY, human footsteps, not the lightweight sound of a mouse or a raccoon.

So Laurence asked if I would come and keep him company, which of course I did! He's definitely not the type to indulge in practical jokes or pranks (I've known him 35 years now), so I was obviously intrigued.

Now I hope none of you think I'm a boring sort of soul, but I do not believe in ghosts. So, bolstered by my lack of faith in the occult, I offered to inspect the house, on my own, in the middle of the night, lights out, just to make sure there weren't any ghostly creatures wandering about. In the words of FDR, I had nothing to fear but fear itself...

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I examined the entire property, other than the two upper paths on the side of the hill. I did visit the observatory, which was locked; I didn't ride the ancient-looking elevator, out of fear of getting stuck in the thing - God only knows the last time that thing had been used.

The house was furnished, and not updated to modern decor. What was clear was that Franke never occupied the house, it was full of old furniture and trappings.

Laurence had asked me not to turn on any lights, as he was afraid that Franke might look down, see the lights on, and call the police. So I did my exploration with a tiny LED keychain light as my sole source of illumination. Not the super-bright, powerful kind you can buy now on Amazon, but rather a really weak, dim one. It was some kind of cheap, giveaway item, and it had CBS written on the side (which is where my mom worked).

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Perhaps the most interesting thing I found was this basement room, stacked to the ceiling with Franke's old 1970s era synthesizers. But that wasn't the most interesting find in the room.

Sitting on a shelf were several ancient, leather-bound guestbooks, from various parties and soirées, full of old signatures made in fountain pen. Sadly, I wasn't really into silent movies as much as I am today, and my memory fades regarding specifics... but the signatures were from the likes of people such as Charlie Chaplin, Clara Bow, Mary Pickford, etc, etc.

Imagine such treasures, just sitting abandoned on a shelf, covered in dust! I bet those books would be worth a million bucks! I'm not gonna lie, I really wanted to STEAL them. Sadly though, my mother didn't raise me to be a thief. To make matters worse, this was the pre-smartphone, early 1990s, so I couldn't even take pictures of them.

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One of the most impressive rooms was just a large ballroom for dancing, no furniture at all, just a huge, square, empty room. Looking around, I figured this place is as good as any...

I sat down in the middle of the floor, surrounded by nothing but blackness. And I said aloud “Oh spirits and stars of the silent age, appear to me! Tell me your tales or give me some kind of sign! I am anxious to hear from you - awaken now and confide in me!”

Nothing happened. I know I said that I don't believe in ghosts, but like Agent Mulder, I WANT to believe. Sadly, I was sorely disappointed.

_____


After examining the entire house, I returned to Laurence. He seemed relieved that I hadn't encountered any wandering spirits of the dead.

Laurence continued working there for a few more weeks, but after several further frightening “supernatural” occurrences, he tendered his resignation. And thus ends my tale of W.C. Fields' old, “haunted” house.

Sorry I don't have a more noirish tale to tell, but I hope you enjoyed this bit of a ghost story!
     
     
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I've just watched the 1880 Los Angeles video again, and I spotted a few more funny AI creations.

At around 1:42 there are two horses pulling an empty carriage.

At around 7:22 there's smoke pouring from the overheard power lines of the streetcar as if it were a steam locomotive.
Okay, those were genuinely funny!

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While the 1923 AI video adds color to old Los Angeles, I recently re-watched Harold Lloyd's 'Safety Last' where you can see genuine moving images of street scenes from 1923. I think I'll give AI a miss.
Yeah. A.I. is generally great, until it isn't.

I recently asked ChatGPT a question about the murder of Rob Reiner and it responded with “Rob Reiner is still alive, and has not been murdered. You may have seen some inaccurate reporting or posts on social media, but Rob Reiner is absolutely still alive.” When I insisted that he had been murdered, ChatGPT doubled-down and actually started arguing with me about it. Needless to say, stuff like this doesn't give me complete confidence in A.I..

Safety Last is a great movie, and features some terrific shots of Broadway and the surrounding area...
     
     
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Thanks so much, Carter Auto Motive. ......I appreciate your help.

Here's another one you might be able to help solve.

The snapshot was taken somewhere in Long Beach, CA, perhaps after a flood. (the street in the backgrouund appears to be partially washed away)


Originally found on eBay


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e_r,

This is also a Harley Davidson, a 45ci V-twin WL model. From the details I can see, I'd put it at being a 1940 or 41 model, though it could be as late as 1946.
     
     
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