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Originally Posted by YOWetal
I don't want to add any more to our off topic discussion but I think my point is actually related. There is an epidemic of people thinking their organization their government etc are incompetants. Every organization is broken. Every management structure is bent on making up pernicious rules for their own amusment.
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DND has been at about this level of staffing in Ottawa for decades. And this is despite adding more and more capabilities and units in the NCR.
Also, troops bitching about HQ is not new. Every private always things he can run the military better than the CDS. Humility is understanding that you may not have the same perspective as those above you.
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Originally Posted by FactaNV
I know everyone isn't in uniform, I never said that.
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You said more bodies could be used at the bases. Is your manning problem in a Sapper platoon going to get solved by moving out policy analysts from ADM(Pol) to your platoon?
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Originally Posted by FactaNV
I also know there is a section for every administrator. 23,000 work at the Pentagon, do we really warrant that much bureaucracy?
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Have you ever been to the Pentagon? I have. They don't cover half the stuff we do in Ottawa. Each of their services has the equivalent of ADM(Mat) for example. None of which are based in DC.
Apparently, if we just move several large support organizations out of Ottawa it will help simpletons who don't understand how militaries work think NDHQ is more efficient.
Indeed, the criticism that many of us actually serving have, is that not enough is centralized, and hence becomes inefficient. And it's usually thanks to political sensitivity of ignorant opinions like yours. Consider the air force's expeditionary capability. The expeditionary wing is in Bagotville. Their engineering assets are in Cold Lake. Their deployable airfield is in Trenton. Strategic Air mobility is in Trenton. And the CAF's theatre activation group is in Kingston. Does this sound like a recipe for efficiency to you? We've had units like the Aerospace Engineering Test Establishment move to Ottawa when TD expense and recruiting problems finally forced them to admit being two timezones from Ottawa was a waste.
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Originally Posted by FactaNV
I will grant the operational units at NDHQ, I didn't consider that. That said, my point stands.
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Not sure how a point based on demonstrated ignorance of the subject stands.
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