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Old Posted Dec 8, 2025, 11:41 PM
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Smile NEW YORK | 1515 Broadway Redevelopment

Great news, as was revealed last week. No longer in it for a casino license, SL Green will still convert 1515 Broadway into a hotel/entertainment venue.


https://www.costar.com/article/192774308...mes-square-office-tower-without-a-casino

SL Green still has big plans for Times Square office tower — without a casino
New York landlord seeks to convert 1515 Broadway into hotel-and-entertainment property






By Linda Moss
December 8, 2025


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In a quick pivot, SL Green Realty is now looking at transforming its trophy Times Square office tower into a roughly 1,000-room hotel and entertainment venue after its bid to open a casino there was rejected.

The New York-based real estate investment trust is proposing the adaptive reuse of 1515 Broadway, a landmark nearly 2 million-square-foot skyscraper. SL Green, Manhattan's largest office landlord, told Wall Street analysts that planning a casino for the property — even though the project fell through — provided the groundwork for turning the building to a hospitality use.

"The casino showed us how easy it is to convert the 1515 tower to hotel," Brett Herschenfeld, SL Green executive vice president for retail and opportunistic investments, said Friday during the REIT's investor day presentation. "It will have the best hotel views in the city, and I think a hotel in the middle of the world's greatest tourist destination might be a pretty good idea."
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….. one of its longtime tenants will be moving its headquarters out of the location. Media giant Paramount, in the wake of its $8 billion merger with Skydance, is relocating its global headquarters to its lot at 5555 Melrose Ave. in Los Angeles.
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The REIT "plans to move forward with a similar design and conversion plan — without the casino," Kim said Monday in a note to clients.

"This would entail converting the 1.75 million-square-foot office building to a 992-room hotel, and establishing Summit Times Square atop the building, an expanded podium to house experiential entertainment, additional signage — and potentially a High Line-type pedestrian podium connected to other buildings," Kim said.


SL Green would also open an observatory similar to Summit One Vanderbilt — a tourist attraction at the REIT's One Vanderbilt skyscraper — atop 1515 Broadway.

During the investor event, Herschenfeld used illustrations of 1515 Broadway's floor plates to show how the conversion would work.

"Here is the existing office floor plan, and note the center core and the tower has legal light and air on all four sides," he said. "To convert, we wrap a corridor around the core and create standard bays for hotel rooms along the current exterior column system. Voila: 32 floors of office becomes 992 hotel rooms."

Floors 22 to 53 would be converted into hospitality space.

In addition to that transition, "think about a multiuse entertainment complex with expanded signage, virtual reality, e-sports, museums live in virtual performance theatres, family attractions with rides" for 1515 Broadway, Herschenfeld said.
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The building's podium now includes the Minskoff Theatre, where "The Lion King" plays. But the REIT wants to have new immersive offerings added there.

"Imagine we remap the podium with a greatly expanded box, containing multiple levels of ticketed experiential use within," Herschenfeld said. "For the podium programming, when was the last time any of you visited a theme park and saw the latest and greatest in ride technology? It's all virtual now. It's become so real that you feel like you've traveled the distance of a Coney Island roller coaster, but yet, you remained in the confines of a 10,000-square-foot room."

The podium's floors are 60,000 square feet, according to Herschenfeld, and "technology advancements mean we could put an entire theme park of the future at the base of 1550 [Broadway]."
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SL Green did not provide any additional comment to CoStar News on Monday.

But on investor day, Herschenfeld also discussed creating more pedestrian space while preserving vehicular traffic in Times Square, which has 130 million visitors a year.

"The answer is, we think three-dimensional," he said. "What if we created elevated pedestrian platforms traversing [Times Square] like the High Line of New York or one of several districts in Hong Kong? Vehicles can still travel underneath, and in so doing, you've doubled the amount of ground floor retail in Times Square, both at ground and platform level, and those pay pretty good rents."
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A little bit more from the presentation...



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In some of these images, it looks like there’s a new facade. This tower desperately needs a new facade. Then again, SLG is not touching the utterly heinous facade on 245 Park, but for the base, so perhaps it will go cheap here too.
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The REIT "plans to move forward with a similar design and conversion plan — without the casino," Kim said Monday in a note to clients.

"This would entail converting the 1.75 million-square-foot office building to a 992-room hotel, and establishing Summit Times Square atop the building, an expanded podium to house experiential entertainment, additional signage — and potentially a High Line-type pedestrian podium connected to other buildings," Kim said.
Nothing cheap about it. They don't have to do any of this, but will take advantage of this opportunity to do something special with the property. I couldn't be more excited about it.



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I agree, I'm very happy about this happening
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and potentially a High Line-type pedestrian podium connected to other buildings
wow, this sounds really intriguing. which building could they mean for potential connection via podiums? the one directly to the north?
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There is no reason not to replace this tired facade.
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There is no reason not to replace this tired facade.
What's tired is your incessant whining about the facade.



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wow, this sounds really intriguing. which building could they mean for potential connection via podiums? the one directly to the north?
I'm not sure as they haven't revealed any final plans. Maybe a new building, or maybe a series of pedestrian connections in the area. It's always pretty congested at the street level, but I'm not sure how much the city would go along with that. They will charge a small fortune for it, but depending on the overall plan, it could be an improvement to the overall Times Square experience, and keep things flowing.

The 55 ft ceiling heights sound like spectacular spaces for what they are planning. It's good that we are seeing more active atractions in the Times Square area. There was a time when people went there for the seedy attractions (drugs, porn, etc), then came the Disneyfication of Times Square, then the pedestrian plazas. But with the coming new attractions, Times Square is once more becoming attractive for tourists and locals alike.



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The newer development will be a much larger transformation than what was planned for the casino...







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This has great potential, but it will be very shortsighted if SLG does all of this work and does not replace the tired facade.

Some images, like this, suggest that it will have new glass, which would be transformative.

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This has great potential, but it will be very shortsighted if SLG does all of this work and does not replace the tired facade.
If, If, If. Tells me, as it should tell you, that you don't know what you're talking about. Your talk of the facade is what's tired. This is a major redevelopment of that tower, along with a facade that will be largely covered by LED displays. It's just stupid to keep talking about it at this point.
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Entertainment venue vs Casino vs as is....



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That massive LED base is vile.
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Holy shit, wondering if that would be the largest screen in Times Sq??
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Too many damn screens. Please just put up a simple moving logo for once like the old Times Square "spectaculars."
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Also curious if in theory the structure could be vertically extended...

I would look great to get a new facade and loose the terribly dated original crown design with another 20 stories and a new animated crown.
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Also curious if in theory the structure could be vertically extended...

I would look great to get a new facade and loose the terribly dated original crown design with another 20 stories and a new animated crown.
I agree re: the crown. The shape is good, but they could add some height to it, clad it in glass, and include some great lighting effects.
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anything they do can only help this one.
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That massive LED base is vile.
It’s Times Square.They’re only getting bigger and bigger. Were it not in Times Square, maybe a point. But then again, some people complain about the LED display atop 270 Park.

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Holy shit, wondering if that would be the largest screen in Times Sq??
I think it would be. They just approved one a couple of blocks up. The massive screen is something the city would go along with. I’m not as sure about the elevated walkways. I would have to see a plan.
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It’s Times Square.They’re only getting bigger and bigger. Were it not in Times Square, maybe a point. But then again, some people complain about the LED display atop 270 Park.



I think it would be. They just approved one a couple of blocks up. The massive screen is something the city would go along with. I’m not as sure about the elevated walkways. I would have to see a plan.
What massive new screen was just approved? Will it be on the Morgan Stanley building?
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