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Old Posted Jul 4, 2022, 5:02 AM
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Interestingly as of a few days ago WestJet’s last departure of the day has been moved to 2230. There hasn’t been a Toronto departure that late in a long, long time.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 4, 2022, 9:13 PM
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Travel chaos continues as Canadian airlines, airports top global list of delays over long weekend
Air Canada ranked No. 1 for airline delays with Pearson International taking the No. 2 spot among airports

Christopher Reynolds, The Canadian Press
Jul 04, 2022 • 42 minutes ago • 4 minute read


MONTREAL — Canadian airlines and airports claimed top spots in flight delays over the July long weekend, notching more than nearly any other around the world.

Air Canada ranked No. 1 in delays on Saturday and Sunday as two-thirds of its flights — 717 trips in total — landed late, according to tracking service FlightAware. At 67 per cent on Sunday, it was more than 14 percentage points above the three carriers tied for second place, two of which are Air Canada-affiliated.

Jazz Aviation — a Halifax-based company that provides regional service for Air Canada — and the lower-cost Air Canada Rouge both saw 53 per cent of flights delayed, putting them in the No. 2 spot alongside Greek regional carrier Olympic Air on Sunday.

On Saturday, WestJet and budget subsidiary Swoop placed third and fourth at 55 per cent.

On the airport front, Toronto’s Pearson claimed the No. 2 spot Sunday after 53 per cent of departures were held up, below only Guangzhou’s main airport in China. Pearson beat out Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris and Frankfurt Airport in Germany.

Montreal’s airport placed sixth Sunday at 43 per cent of takeoffs delayed, on par with London’s Heathrow, according to FlightAware figures.

Air Canada said last week it will cut more than 15 per cent of its summer schedule, or nearly 10,000 flights in July and August, affecting hundreds of thousands of passengers as the country’s aviation network sags under an overwhelming travel resurgence.

Bookended by statutory holidays in Canada and the U.S., the weekend saw scenes of long lines and luggage labyrinths flood social media as airports across the globe grappled with the start of peak travel season following two years of pent-up demand.

Passenger flow at Canadian airports is already at 2019 levels during peak times, though closer to 80 per cent of pre-pandemic volumes overall, experts say.

“This is going to be with us all summer,” said Helane Becker, an airline analyst for investment firm Cowen.

“Almost every airline encouraged people to retire early or take leaves. And those people that retired early maybe don’t want to come back to work,” she said of airline employees.

“It’s hard to rebuild off those lows.”

Some pilots have not yet had their licences renewed, while positions with groundcrews and baggage handling remain unfilled — or quickly vacated — due to low wages and stressful work conditions, unions say.

Government agencies have been on a hiring spree for airport security and customs, with 900-plus new security screeners in place since April — though not all have clearance to work the scanners — according to the federal Transport Department.

Air Canada has hired more than 2,000 workers at airports and more than 750 in customer service centres this year for a payroll surpassing 32,000 — 93 per cent of 2019 levels.

“The airlines also used the pandemic to eliminate aircraft types from their fleet, and to ground and retire their oldest aircraft. It’s hard to bring these aircraft back once you park them without doing a lot of maintenance,” Becker added.

“As demand continues to surge, we’re basically looking at an inability for the airlines to easily accommodate it. And I think that’s true worldwide.”

In a memo obtained by The Canadian Press, Air Canada CEO Michael Rousseau warned staff on Wednesday night that “this Canada Day weekend will be difficult.”

The schedule streamline likely won’t have the airline “see the full benefit until the latter part of July,” he said.

In an email to passengers the same evening, Rousseau apologized for cancellations and “customer service shortfalls” but also said the flight reduction stemmed from strains on the “global aviation system,” calling them “unprecedented and unforeseen.”

Canada’s chart-topping delay statistics cap a trend running throughout the year.

Since January, Canada’s two biggest airlines or their affiliates have made up five of the top seven airlines for proportion of flights delayed, according to FlightAware.

WestJet’s Swoop ranks No. 2 at 50 per cent and Air Canada sits in seventh at 43 per cent. Regional subsidiary WestJet Encore, Air Canada Rouge and Jazz Aviation fall in between.

The swelling crowds at international arrival areas prompted the Greater Toronto Airports Authority’s fire chief to issue a directive that warned of a potential “hazard” caused by clogged exits and “life safety concerns.”

“Passenger congestion in the Arrival Transfer level of Terminal 1 and Terminal 3 continues to exceed acceptable levels at certain times, which is due in part to some air carriers not following the Hold Procedure that is in effect for the purpose of maintaining safety in the terminal buildings,” warned Todd Aitken in an order dated June 23 and obtained by The Canadian Press.

https://ottawacitizen.com/transportation...wcm/55870b71-6995-4ee4-9e9f-2bdc3d954760
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 1:16 PM
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Providing more direct flights out of YOW would help reduce the load on YYZ and YUL, but no one in the industry seems to see it that way, preferring to send as many people as possible through those two airports.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 1:33 PM
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Providing more direct flights out of YOW would help reduce the load on YYZ and YUL, but no one in the industry seems to see it that way, preferring to send as many people as possible through those two airports.
My thought as well. Balance the load. Feds could work out VIA rides from Montreal and Toronto to Ottawa where passengers could take a short train, then bus ride to Macdonald-Cartier.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 3:56 PM
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Providing more direct flights out of YOW would help reduce the load on YYZ and YUL, but no one in the industry seems to see it that way, preferring to send as many people as possible through those two airports.
I know normally they would rather everything be full and I get that. Right now though they are going to let planes sit idle and demand is so crazy that tickets to Europe start at $2k. It's crazy they don't shift to smaller airports with full customs facilities.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 9:35 PM
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2022, 1:21 PM
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2022, 11:54 PM
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City council approved the Airport CIP

Council approved the plan today overwhelmingly. Concrete barriers and fencing has gone up in the last few days in the area where the rumoured hangar would be built. Big things seem to be moving forward. Hopefully some news soon!
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2022, 1:08 AM
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Council OK's tax break program for development around Ottawa airport, rejects attempt to make forest protection a part of the deal
As it's a portion of the property tax increase resulting from the development that would be forgiven, the program is considered self-financing.

Taylor Blewett, Ottawa Citizen
Jul 06, 2022 • 2 hours ago • 3 minute read


Pitched as a way to support the city’s pandemic-battered airport and tourism industry and potentially improve flight offerings to and from the national capital, council approved a tax-break program Wednesday for businesses that develop around Ottawa International Airport.

Under the new community improvement plan (CIP) for about 100 hectares of federally owned land around the airport “that’s been sitting underused for many years,” as city planning boss Steve Willis described it, tenants who rent property from the airport authority and develop value-adding projects on it would be eligible for annual grants reducing their municipal tax bills for up to 25 years.

As it’s a portion of the property tax increase resulting from the development that would be forgiven, the program is considered self-financing.

Mayor Jim Watson encouraged colleagues to vote for the proposed grant program, describing it as “one of very few tools we have as a municipality to help an important sector of our economy. It would allow the airport — which is a not-for-profit entity — to increase its revenue through rent collection and potentially, the number of flights operating out of YOW, Watson said.

Even before the pandemic period , with passenger numbers dropping by 77 per cent between 2019 and 2021, Willis said the Ottawa airport had been losing international flights due to factors “well beyond” its control. And, while the airport has done well in attracting small airlines, like those offering regional and northern service and charter vacation flights, he said building up its rental income stream would also give the airport additional resources to try to pique the interest of bigger airlines.

While the federal government has provided millions in pandemic-related relief to the Ottawa airport, plus investments in its border security infrastructure and the future airport LRT spur, Willis said he wasn’t aware of any federal government programs to try to get airlines to spread their flight offerings to different airports. He contrasted that with the Netherlands, which recently encouraged airlines to move from Amsterdam’s overcrowded airport to Rotterdam’s.

“If our federal government were to take the same approach and to depressurize Toronto and Montreal through routes through Ottawa, I think we’d be thrilled,” Willis said.

Coun. Keith Egli secured a commitment from the mayor to write to the federal government and push for help to increase the flight offerings at the Ottawa airport. As national capital and seat of the federal government, Coun. Theresa Kavanagh added, people visiting Ottawa shouldn’t have to transfer in Montreal and Toronto, as they do now. “We’re not a backwater.”

Airport-area councillors Riley Brockington and Diane Deans tried to rally support for a proposal to make the grant program contingent on agreement by the airport to protect a large red pine plantation along Hunt Club Road, outside the CIP boundary. It’s already been threatened once by a proposal to develop a parking lot and storage facility, Brockington noted, prompting more than 21,000 people to sign a petition to save the urban forest. It’s something city staff and the airport are discussing, via a potential land swap.

But to do this now by attaching it to the tax-break program is about leverage, Brockington said.

“We’re going to enter into an agreement that will have significant economic benefits to the airport and their future tenants, in the tens of millions of dollars, and, in return, based on strong community desire, (the requirement) is to remove these 10 acres from future development.”

While it’s something council could do, Willis shared his position that the airport is negotiating in good faith on the land swap and, to keep that going, the issues should be dealt with separately. Brockington’s motion failed 17-7.

While most of council backed the creation of the grant program, which will remain in place for at least 10 years, Deans, Kavanagh, Jeff Leiper and Shawn Menard voted against it. Menard said nothing in the plan required the airport to prove that development wouldn’t have happened anyway in order for tenants to receive tax breaks.

While Willis confirmed that, he said no tax relief under the program would be approved without a council vote and staff would try to provide evidence at that time to show how the incentive was resulting in the consideration of a particular project on airport lands.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...ake-forest-protection-a-part-of-the-deal
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2022, 12:14 AM
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Council approved the plan today overwhelmingly. Concrete barriers and fencing has gone up in the last few days in the area where the rumoured hangar would be built. Big things seem to be moving forward. Hopefully some news soon!
Super.

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Old Posted Jul 8, 2022, 2:46 AM
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City council boosts YOW recovery and growth with approval of new plan

By: Andrea Sakiyama Kennedy, OBJ
Published: Jul 7, 2022 3:32pm EDT


City council has voted to support the Ottawa airport’s post-pandemic recovery with the creation of an airport-specific Community Improvement Plan (CIP).

A CIP is used by the city to stimulate private investment in the revitalization of commercial areas through urban renewal and property upgrades. Other key Ottawa areas identified for this designation include the Montréal Road CIP, Integrated Orléans CIP and the Heritage CIP.

As a significant economic driver for the city, the airport, often known by its call letters YOW, will now be identified in the city’s new Official Plan as a “special economic district,” enabling it to focus on private-sector investments and development as part of its recovery plans.

“The City of Ottawa’s attention to YOW’s situation confirms its understanding of the importance of the airport in our community and its impact on economic growth and prosperity across all sectors and industries,” said Ottawa International Airport Authority CEO Mark Laroche in a statement this week.

“The business of airports is highly competitive and the CIP will make the Ottawa airport a more attractive option for businesses looking to capitalize on airport access and connectivity. We look forward to working through the next steps with the city,” Laroche added.

During council deliberations, Mayor Watson spoke in support of the motion, highlighting that the city has very few tools it can draw on to assist the tourism sector, which is the city’s third-largest employer.

“It is a very clear signal that this city supports and wants to do its very best to support the tourism industry that is so very important to our local economy,” said Watson.

At the airport authority’s annual general meeting in early May, Laroche said that, while the economic recovery is underway and the situation for the airport is improving, cost-cutting initiatives were largely responsible for decreases in overall net losses in 2021. Most of the airport’s other sources of revenue, including terminal and landing fees, as well as concession revenues and parking fees, were stagnant or in decline year-over-year as YOW’s total passenger count fell, requiring the airport to issue $100 million in bonds to help cover its losses.

The pursuit of the CIP designation was driven by Mayor Watson and the city’s economic task force in late 2021, when staff were directed to explore opportunities to support the airport in its economic recovery coming out of the pandemic, citing the critical role the airport plays in the local economy’s future growth and prosperity.

https://www.obj.ca/article/local/city-council-boosts-yow-recovery-and-growth-approval-new-plan
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2022, 2:27 AM
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2022, 1:33 PM
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I see that PAL quietly dropped YOW-YFC but increased YOW-YQM to 5x weekly ops X36. Most flights are on the DH4 with a few DH3s sprinkled in. Also the flights no longer stop at YDF but a connection at YQM to YDF is now offered. YYT is now same-plane 1-stop service to match Porter.

PAL continue to serve YFC but with that DH1 that goes to YDF via YQM and meets up with the YOW flight to connect to YYT. YOW connections to/from YFC aren’t possible.

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Although it is super likely to happen anyway, grateful if anyone monitoring the Porter announcements about new routes from Ottawa could point us to news that comes out!

After feeling that YOW went backwards during the pandemic with reduced Transborder and European non-stop routes, new destinations that we have never had before (or didn't have for long), even if they are within the U.S., will be such a welcome and exciting development!

Also, for those that haven't seen it, there are some possible destinations mentioned here:

https://www.flyporter.com/en/about-porter/who-we-are/porter-and-embraer

Although it doesn't specify which of those cities flights from Ottawa will serve, it may still give hints while we wait!
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2022, 4:47 PM
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Although it is super likely to happen anyway, grateful if anyone monitoring the Porter announcements about new routes from Ottawa could point us to news that comes out!

After feeling that YOW went backwards during the pandemic with reduced Transborder and European non-stop routes, new destinations that we have never had before (or didn't have for long), even if they are within the U.S., will be such a welcome and exciting development!

Also, for those that haven't seen it, there are some possible destinations mentioned here:

https://www.flyporter.com/en/about-porter/who-we-are/porter-and-embraer

Although it doesn't specify which of those cities flights from Ottawa will serve, it may still give hints while we wait!
I check Porter's FB page and new articles daily to see if anything comes out. I doubt anyone would pass the opportunity to post it here, but you have my word that I will! I too am extremely excited for Porter's announcement. Fun fact: Today (July 12th) marks exactly 1 year since they first announced that they will be expanding. It's coming soon. This is a good video to watch: https://financialpost.com/transportation...predicts-well-really-elevate-competition

Apparently they are on track with when they want to start flying. He says that Q3 or Q4 will be when the first flights take off, but we're literally in Q3 right now with Q4 just a few short months away. You'd think they announce now so they can start selling tickets for it! Either way my big hopes for Porter are some basic routes that are feasible from YOW that other airlines expect us to connect for so they can continue to cater to their precious YYZ and YUL. Places like LAX, SFO, Vegas. With Moncton, Fredericton, and Halifax Dash-8 flying into YOW, I think they will use that traffic to connect them here. This could also include St. John's traffic too since they fly to Halifax then YOW with no plane change. I also wouldn't rule out their intention to connect Toronto traffic from Billy Bishop here as well, those who don't want to deal with YYZ. I'm predicting their jets from YYZ to service stand alone local traffic since a bus service connecting Billy Bishop to YYZ would be too inconvenient considering the competitors have same terminal connections at YYZ. However, I think their initial set of routes will be Canadian destinations to start. We'll see.

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I check Porter's FB page and new articles daily to see if anything comes out. I doubt anyone would pass the opportunity to post it here, but you have my word that I will! I too am extremely excited for Porter's announcement. Fun fact: Today (July 12th) marks exactly 1 year since they first announced that they will be expanding. It's coming soon. This is a good video to watch: https://financialpost.com/transportation...predicts-well-really-elevate-competition

Apparently they are on track with when they want to start flying. He says that Q3 or Q4 will be when the first flights take off, but we're literally in Q3 right now with Q4 just a few short months away. You'd think they announce now so they can start selling tickets for it! Either way my big hopes for Porter are some basic routes that are feasible from YOW that other airlines expect us to connect for so they can continue to cater to their precious YYZ and YUL. Places like LAX, SFO, Vegas. With Moncton, Fredericton, and Halifax Dash-8 flying into YOW, I think they will use that traffic to connect them here. This could also include St. John's traffic too since they fly to Halifax then YOW with no plane change. I also wouldn't rule out their intention to connect Toronto traffic from Billy Bishop here as well, those who don't want to deal with YYZ. I'm predicting their jets from YYZ to service stand alone local traffic since a bus service connecting Billy Bishop to YYZ would be too inconvenient considering the competitors have same terminal connections at YYZ. However, I think their initial set of routes will be Canadian destinations to start. We'll see.
Thanks very much and I look forward to anything you might learn/post!

In addition to the California/Las Vegas destinations you mentioned, which would be probably the biggest US interest for me, I would love to see Denver, Nashville and/or Atlanta. Those would all "fill in the gaps" we have in large swaths of the U.S., especially if we manage to get a few Western or Southwestern destinations too!
     
     
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Although it is super likely to happen anyway, grateful if anyone monitoring the Porter announcements about new routes from Ottawa could point us to news that comes out!

After feeling that YOW went backwards during the pandemic with reduced Transborder and European non-stop routes, new destinations that we have never had before (or didn't have for long), even if they are within the U.S., will be such a welcome and exciting development!

Also, for those that haven't seen it, there are some possible destinations mentioned here:

https://www.flyporter.com/en/about-porter/who-we-are/porter-and-embraer

Although it doesn't specify which of those cities flights from Ottawa will serve, it may still give hints while we wait!
If there was anytime a Billy Bishop to Miami flight via Ottawa was sellable it is now. I guess they can't bank on another quarter of chaos but winter peak travel promises to be a repeat from what I see. East coast traffic would also be easy to mop up more demand.

I'm a pessimist but hope we get some new routes. I skipped flying this summer after a busy spring but would shell out for an Ottawa direct route for sure stateside this fall.
     
     
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Is Canadian E2 certification maybe playing a role in delaying Porter's new route announcements? Heard Embraer was still working on getting the E2 certified with Transport Canada
     
     
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