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[ecbin]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/north-shore-skytrain-burnaby-metrotown

I'm quite curious where the stops for this route would go and if Skytrain can even run up and down Willingdon considering the steepness (Skytrain can do a maximum of 6%).

Obvious stops: Metrotown, Canada Way, Brentwood, Gilmore, Kootenay Exchange.

Less obvious: Grange or Burke, Moscrop or Sanderson, Still Creek, Parker (these are all reasonable distances between stations.

[Migrant_Coconut]

It's probably elevated between Burke and Dawson, at which point it ducks into the slope; only way it can connect to Brentwood and Metrotown without some very creative station design.

[Metro-One]

The purple alignment is fantastic, it better be the next project to move forward after the UBC line is completed (I would personally put it before UBC phase two, but I also don’t want to stop any momentum there).

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

its a distro center for one of the larger grocery chains I believe. if you google the address something should come up. sorry but I cant remember who is taking it right now

It was HY Louie for years but they moved out a while back.

Originally Posted by jasonpark

It’s the new headquarters for Stemcell Technologies. They currently own the land in that area at 2821 Production Way and 8399 Eastlake drive


https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4635904
https://www.stemcell.com/locations/north-america/vancouver-bc

ok, yea it looks more like an office now, quite a lot of tech companies in that area. Easy walk to skytrain.

Daiya moved into the building kitty corner to this one, they also did some renovating going from distribution centre to more office type building.

[officedweller]

That's a nice reno.

[BaddieB]

Originally Posted by ecbin

I'm quite curious where the stops for this route would go and if Skytrain can even run up and down Willingdon considering the steepness (Skytrain can do a maximum of 6%).

Obvious stops: Metrotown, Canada Way, Brentwood, Gilmore, Kootenay Exchange.

Less obvious: Grange or Burke, Moscrop or Sanderson, Still Creek, Parker (these are all reasonable distances between stations.

Your obvious stop at Canada Way makes no sense. Most people would be getting off at Goard Way because that's the busiest BCIT stop. Also it would service the new development to the west of Willingdon. I see it as this in between Metrotown and Brentwood

Metrotown
Possible station at Grange/Kingsway
Moscrop
Goard Way
Brentwood

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by BaddieB

Your obvious stop at Canada Way makes no sense. Most people would be getting off at Goard Way because that's the busiest BCIT stop. Also it would service the new development to the west of Willingdon. I see it as this in between Metrotown and Brentwood

Metrotown
Possible station at Grange/Kingsway
Moscrop
Goard Way
Brentwood

The Grange / Kingsway stop would be too close to Metrotown to be worthwhile - strictly based on spacing it would be at Bond instead. A Canada Way stop makes sense due to the Willingdon Lands development. So I see a more likely list of those stations as: Metrotown, Bond, Sanderson, Canada Way, Brentwood.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by BaddieB

Your obvious stop at Canada Way makes no sense. Most people would be getting off at Goard Way because that's the busiest BCIT stop.

Stations are usually located where bus routes intersect the line.
If Canada Way has major east-west bus routes, then they may place a station there, rather than diverting Canada Way buses to a station at Goard Way for transfer connections.

That's all assuming the line isn't on Gilmore.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Four new towers in the heart of Brentwood. Those in Amazing Brentwood Tower 1 are sure to lose so views depending on how tall these will go.

https://www.burnabynow.com/local-news/op...ould-be-an-absolute-game-changer-5030804

More from VancouverMarket.ca:

It's by Bosa.. so could be big, but no dedicated office tower planned.

Upon completion, the approximately 3.27 acres (142,542 sq. ft.) site is envisioned to accommodate four mixed-use residential and commercial towers, two new public open spaces, a new street linking Buchannan Street to Lougheed Highway, and a range of public realm and infrastructure upgrades, including the achievement of the Town Centre Street Standards along the development frontages.

Phase 1 – Bosa owned sites at 4430-4488 Halifax Street – single condo tower over retail, with 6-storey non-market rental podium

Phase 2 – Bosa owned corner of Willingdon & Halifax – “signature” rental tower, with office & retail podium

Phase 3 – Corner of Lougheed & Willingdon – “landmark” condo & rental tower, with office & retail podium

Phase 4 – 1925 Willingdon – condo & non-market rental tower over, with office & retail podium

The overall permitted maximum density is 14.3 FAR, as per the following:

Looks like they are applying for replacement of commercial zoning with mixed use zoning.
Not very good for the "Town Centre".


https://pub-burnaby.escribemeetings.com/...%20now%3A%20outbound&utm_medium=referral

Detailed description of the phases:


https://pub-burnaby.escribemeetings.com/...%20now%3A%20outbound&utm_medium=referral

[hollywoodnorth]

14.3 FAR ... nice!

NOW THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAY BURNABY DENSITY @ the WESTBANK SAFEWAY SITE ON COMMERCIAL.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

14.3 FAR ... nice!

NOW THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAY BURNABY DENSITY @ the WESTBANK SAFEWAY SITE ON COMMERCIAL.

That's what they can theoretically rezone to, not what they're proposing. They will have less - they're only putting office and retail in the podium of three of the four towers, so they'll probably end up at about 12.0 FSR (at most) which is similar to the PCI rental/office/retail tower proposed for Granville and Broadway.

[jollyburger]

HY Louie was thinking of using the site for their HQ for a time. Seems like they moved to Still Creek (4401 Still Creek Dr, Burnaby, BC V5C 6G9)

https://pub-burnaby.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=36497

[logan5]

Originally Posted by Changing City

That's what they can theoretically rezone to, not what they're proposing. They will have less - they're only putting office and retail in the podium of three of the four towers, so they'll probably end up at about 12.0 FSR (at most) which is similar to the PCI rental/office/retail tower proposed for Granville and Broadway.

The podium in SOLO across the street is 12 stories and looks to be about 20 000 sq feet per floor, so that's 240 000 sq feet in just one podium. This proposal has 3 podiums with office, so it could easily hit the 3 FSR of commercial required to qualify for 3 FSR of rental in the C3 zone (total 6 FSR).

[officedweller]

The 4th tower at SOLO will also have a tall office podium.

Hopefully this project will have tall office podiums, but if they each have them, it would be nice if it were an office tower instead.

Unless they are planning to have the cornice line of the SOLO podiums extend north across Lougheed?
Appia is related to Bosa.


https://www.facebook.com/SOLODistrict/

[SpongeG]

I wonder if Willingdon will ever get a canyon going on.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by logan5

The podium in SOLO across the street is 12 stories and looks to be about 20 000 sq feet per floor, so that's 240 000 sq feet in just one podium. This proposal has 3 podiums with office, so it could easily hit the 3 FSR of commercial required to qualify for 3 FSR of rental in the C3 zone (total 6 FSR).

Solo Tower 4 is 11.8 FSR. That's the highest FSR so far in Brentwood. It has just under 200,000 sq ft of office and retail.

[logan5]

Originally Posted by Changing City

Solo Tower 4 is 11.8 FSR. That's the highest FSR so far in Brentwood. It has just under 200,000 sq ft of office and retail.

Pretty sure SOLO was built before before Burnaby modified its rezoning rules. They didn't have the option then to convert commercial FSR to rental, like you can now. Not a big deal though if they aren't maxing out the FSR. FSR 12 (or so) is still a lot of square footage.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

I wonder if Willingdon will ever get a canyon going on.

With Still Creek and BCIT and Garden Village in the way? I'm thinking the Willingdon Lands will be a one-off.

[ecbin]

Originally Posted by Sheba

The Grange / Kingsway stop would be too close to Metrotown to be worthwhile - strictly based on spacing it would be at Bond instead. A Canada Way stop makes sense due to the Willingdon Lands development. So I see a more likely list of those stations as: Metrotown, Bond, Sanderson, Canada Way, Brentwood.

A Grange/Kingsway stop may or may not be too close - walking distance is about 750-850m depending on the route and location of the Metrotown stop (assuming it's right under the current Metrotown station). General guidelines are to space stations about 1km apart so this could be done and it's denser than the Bond/Burke area with a more natural terrain for a station (not steep).

As for Canada Way vs Goard - the distance between the two is about 300m depending on where you put the station. You could easily have an exit at each end of the station (the station platform will likely be an 80m one). Put the station in the middle and it's a 100m walk either ways, no big deal.

I still have trouble imagining how Skytrain works between Grange and Moscrop considering the slope but as someone else mentioned they'll probably run it above ground further down the slope - maybe it goes underground right around Burke. If they're above ground in that area it's gonna be a messy process buying up some land b/c Willingdon isn't wide enough to support above ground skytrain.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by Changing City

That's what they can theoretically rezone to, not what they're proposing. They will have less - they're only putting office and retail in the podium of three of the four towers, so they'll probably end up at about 12.0 FSR (at most) which is similar to the PCI rental/office/retail tower proposed for Granville and Broadway.

Is there any reason at this location to not max out the FSR though? Seems like there's plenty of demand for the Brentwood area, wouldn't opting for a lower FSR just be going against the developers best interests?