Atlanta Project Thread IV

[jpk1292000]

Even though this design isn't thrilling, it would get rid of my least favorite surface lot in Midtown

https://whatnowatlanta.com/mill-creek-re...whIdpSoXMfaX6DfhTlDNDGnyMOBHS4B_AY8Nec7g

[smArTaLlone]

Here's the description from the DRC agenda. Both sites have had previously stalled projects.

Mill Creek - 180 10th St

New 30-story mixed-use project with ~4,000 SF retail, and 345 residential units of
~407,000 SF along the north side of 10th St. between Juniper St. and Piedmont Ave. The
site is accessible from a driveway along the west property line and an access easement
connecting northward to 11th St. A partially buried 8-story podium parking deck with
442 parking spaces and one (1) loading space is provided. The 10th St. façade has street
facing retail and covered area leading to a recessed residential lobby.

Property Markets Group - 811 Peachtree St.

New 33-story mixed-use project with ~15,600 SF retail, ~76,500 SF office and 460
residential units totaling ~330,200 SF. The site is at the southeast corner of Peachtree St.
and 6th St. A 6-story podium parking deck with 455 parking spaces and three (3) loading
spaces are accessible from 6th St. The building frontages include street facing retail while
residential lobby/amenity is accessible from 6th St. South of the site an existing
easement and driveway will be maintained.

[smArTaLlone]

I'm guessing that the 811 Peachtree proposal is one of the PMG's co-living apartment brands.


For example Society Las Olas in Ft Lauderdale.

[RocketSurgeon]

Are there any other images of 811 or just the one elevation drawn from the back side? It's hard to glean much from that.

[alco89]

Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

Are there any other images of 811 or just the one elevation drawn from the back side? It's hard to glean much from that.

Right. We'll likely have to wait until after the meeting tomorrow to see more.

[bryantm3]

I am over this cycle. It was nice getting some density here and there, but lately, every new development seems to deprive midtown of another piece of its charm. We need a serious reset and assessment.

[RATBOYKEV]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

I am over this cycle. It was nice getting some density here and there, but lately, every new development seems to deprive midtown of another piece of its charm. We need a serious reset and assessment.

Midtown seems to have grown from $10-15M/Acre around 2014 to $20-25M now for land in any reasonable location and the quality seems to have followed. Personally, I still want to see more affordable housing built in Midtown but as land prices continue to rise, it's gonna be difficult to build anything let alone affordable units.

We haven't gotten a new Skyhouse in quite a while and those were certainly lower budget designs than even the dormitories in the sky we get now!

[Terminus]

Originally Posted by RATBOYKEV

Midtown seems to have grown from $10-15M/Acre around 2014 to $20-25M now for land in any reasonable location and the quality seems to have followed. Personally, I still want to see more affordable housing built in Midtown but as land prices continue to rise, it's gonna be difficult to build anything let alone affordable units.

We haven't gotten a new Skyhouse in quite a while and those were certainly lower budget designs than even the dormitories in the sky we get now!

The most viable affordable housing is the one that doesn't require you to own a car. In this respect, Midtown is doing quite well for many.

[ATLMidcity]

Originally Posted by Terminus

The most viable affordable housing is the one that doesn't require you to own a car. In this respect, Midtown is doing quite well for many.

I really appreciate what Midtown is morphing into - a livable, walkable, diverse neighborhood with enough street activity to keep it from feeling like a 9-to-5ish district.

I plan to sell my bungalow within a decade, retire, ditch the car and move to a highrise in Midtown and live the city life until I'm dead and gone.

The district is the best urban experience Atlanta has to offer at this point, but downtown is really not that far behind. It just needs more cohesion IMHO.

[bryantm3]

I was very excited when the cycle started after the recession in '08. But as time goes on and I see how these developments have changed the city, I am starting to really question these block-sized megaprojects with parking podiums, and the 5-over-1 developments going up in areas intown.

There needs to be a way for people besides the ultra rich to afford property intown that appreciates. Whether that's a studio condo, or a 6 unit apartment building. We need the city to step in and start carving up some of these larger lots in the city to facilitate buy-in piecemeal from residents rather than wait on megadevelopers to build the city in big chunks that can't be easily split up or maintained by anyone who isn't a billionaire. Midtown today doesn't have a lot of that buy-in from everyday people that makes a city a city. It is too much like a sims game, where the developers and residents are completely different groups of people.

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

I was very excited when the cycle started after the recession in '08. But as time goes on and I see how these developments have changed the city, I am starting to really question these block-sized megaprojects with parking podiums, and the 5-over-1 developments going up in areas intown.

There needs to be a way for people besides the ultra rich to afford property intown that appreciates. Whether that's a studio condo, or a 6 unit apartment building. We need the city to step in and start carving up some of these larger lots in the city to facilitate buy-in piecemeal from residents rather than wait on megadevelopers to build the city in big chunks that can't be easily split up or maintained by anyone who isn't a billionaire. Midtown today doesn't have a lot of that buy-in from everyday people that makes a city a city. It is too much like a sims game, where the developers and residents are completely different groups of people.

Midtown at this point is too expensive to expect piecemeal development. You'll have to hope the residential neighborhoods can do that and it's hard because most of the land is already used by single family homes. This is just a century of bad planning in Atlanta.

[Terminus]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

I was very excited when the cycle started after the recession in '08. But as time goes on and I see how these developments have changed the city, I am starting to really question these block-sized megaprojects with parking podiums, and the 5-over-1 developments going up in areas intown.

There needs to be a way for people besides the ultra rich to afford property intown that appreciates. Whether that's a studio condo, or a 6 unit apartment building. We need the city to step in and start carving up some of these larger lots in the city to facilitate buy-in piecemeal from residents rather than wait on megadevelopers to build the city in big chunks that can't be easily split up or maintained by anyone who isn't a billionaire. Midtown today doesn't have a lot of that buy-in from everyday people that makes a city a city. It is too much like a sims game, where the developers and residents are completely different groups of people.

I don't have the 5 over 1's when done well. Most of Paris is this scale. The mega towers with the parking podiums really bother me. Andres Duany warned of this happening in Midtown around 10 years ago at a Midtown Alliance Annual Meeting - he was spot on.

[He's Back]

Millcreek Project on 10th St - 31 Stories



More Pic Her:
https://twitter.com/cbenderatl/status/1415064775088803846

https://twitter.com/cbenderatl/status/1415064775088803846/retweets/with_comments

https://twitter.com/cbenderatl/status/1415068130087407621

[He's Back]

811 Peachtree - 33 stories



More Pic Here"
https://twitter.com/cbenderatl/status/1415076968429756426?s=20

https://twitter.com/cbenderatl/status/1415078566715432965?s=20

[jayden]

811 looks really good!

[Martinman]

Yeah. I like both projects. They are not earth shattering but it's good infill with better than average street presence. 811 Peachtree especially should be a huge boost to the vibrancy of the area.

[Ant131531]

Both a little safe, but boring to me. It's a safe approach. Still, more could be done to the designs of the parking podiums of both towers. That blank white wall on the 811 Peachtree project is a big nono.

[ATL Champion]

811 Peachtree....
More like 811 Balconies

[dmbolp]

Originally Posted by ATL Champion

811 Peachtree....
More like 811 Balconies

And all "diving boards" just jutting out from the building

[montydawg]

nevermind