2018 London Municipal Election - Page 6

haljackey · #**101** Posted **Sep 26, 2018, 3:07 PM**

London mayoral candidates talk transportation during debate

https://globalnews.ca/news/4484823/london-mayoral-debate/

Reddit discussion
https://www.reddit.com/r/londonontario/c..._mayoral_candidates_talk_transportation/

jammer139 · #**102** Posted **Oct 3, 2018, 10:30 PM**

This article on the proposed Tricar tower sums up the failure of the last 4 years of this council.

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/city-council-briefs-5

Hopefully on Oct 22nd voters clean house again.

ssiguy · #**103** Posted **Oct 3, 2018, 11:37 PM**

I`m curious, who is are the 2 front runners right now? I just riffled off a long email to Cheng for London transit proposals.

Djeffery · #**104** Posted **Oct 4, 2018, 2:01 AM**

I don't know if we have any current polling data, but my suspicion is Ed Holder and Paul Cheng are the front runners. And I only say that based on Cheng's showing in the last election and Holder's past experience as an MP and being well known from Stevenson Hunt and all the various community things he did.

haljackey · #**105** Posted **Oct 4, 2018, 2:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by ssiguy

I`m curious, who is are the 2 front runners right now? I just riffled off a long email to Cheng for London transit proposals.

Depends who you ask until a poll comes.

I think Paul Paolatto destroyed Ed Holder in the transit debate, so he has moved up the ranks in my mind. However he also may have some conflict of interest issues so might hurt him.

I'd say Cheng is last of the 4, but not sure who the top two are.

With Ranked balloting however, I think it's Park vs Holder/Paolatto/Cheng.

Dupcheck · #**106** Posted **Oct 4, 2018, 12:52 PM**

I think:

Holder showed to be a good leader and easier to earn others respect but has a weak platform and just the usual status quo.
I like Cheng's sincerity and realistic approach, but i think he might have a hard time getting the council to follow him, no platform to show.
Park did better than i thought, but she is a bit too liberal that tries to please all, good platform, short list and achievable, realistic views.
Paolatto did ok, but i am not sure about his potential conflicts of interests, very good platform, maybe too optimistic, if he gets most done it would be impressive.

So far from all the platforms of the 4 above i like these the best in this order of preference:

1. Paolatto's (except the green bin program part)
2. Tanya's (good community interested, too generic at times)
3. the usual and more the usual (guess who)
4. no platform and not much to promise, - bad he does not support biking infrastructure etc. (guess who)

If they do not support biking infrastructure and TVP connection, they do not get my vote!

haljackey · #**107** Posted **Oct 4, 2018, 1:08 PM**

Holder seems to have no passion IMO.

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So the LFP did a story on cyber attacks on a couple female city councilors and Steven Orser replied with
Yes Orser No BRT Ward 4

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/digital-dirty-tricks-sandbag-a-second-london-woman-politician

Classic LFP comment

Dupcheck · #**108** Posted **Oct 4, 2018, 6:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by haljackey

Holder seems to have no passion IMO.

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So the LFP did a story on cyber attacks on a couple female city councilors and Steven Orser replied with
Yes Orser No BRT Ward 4

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/digital-dirty-tricks-sandbag-a-second-london-woman-politician

Classic LFP comment

The Australian or New Zeland PM can not exactly recall; brought her newborn to a parliamentary session...should we start calling that act abuse. Times have changed...people now live in a dynamic multitasking society.

Blitz · #**109** Posted **Oct 11, 2018, 4:17 PM**

After watching the excruciating/embarrassing mayoral debate on Rogers where some of the unqualified candidates couldn't even understand the questions let alone answer them, I narrowed it down to Park. I already voted in the advance poll and didn't even choose anyone else in the ranked ballot. The other 3 turned me off with their answers to the transit-related questions and living downtown I feel like Park is the only one who really understands and/or cares about downtown's social issues.

Djeffery · #**110** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 1:17 PM**

I have no idea why anyone would choose to not mark down a 2nd and 3rd choice on the ranked ballot. This is not directed to the post above, but I think many people are not informed on how it works. I was talking last week with someone who is otherwise pretty politically astute, and she said by casting more choices, you could be hurting your first choice. We talked, and she was under the impression this was like the recent Conservative federal and provincial leadership races where point values were assigned on a riding by riding basis based on the number of votes. Which is incorrect. Your 2nd place vote only comes into play after your first choice is eliminated, and your 3rd only comes in after your 2nd and 1st are gone. You definitely don't hurt your first choice's chances by choosing 2nd and 3rd. And it gives you a say should your first choice not end up being the winner.

Djeffery · #**111** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 2:03 PM**

https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/free-press-forum-poll-dead-heat-in-london-mayoral-race

Interesting poll results. Kind of surprised Cheng is leading over Holder, but that's only by a point. I think it shows Park doesn't have much of a chance though, since it's not likely she has much 2nd and 3rd place support from voters choosing Ed or the Pauls first. It's a shame that BRT has been the polarizing issue dominating all the coverage because if Cheng gets elected based on that, we are just going to have a council of dysfunction for 4 years while he has no clue what else he has to do, and that he isn't an all powerful sovereign.

And BRT is the only reason Tanya Park is even a viable candidate, because she's taken up the pro side. I think the fact that she announced a year ago she wasn't going to run for council again "because she has accomplished everything she set out to do", and thought she had a lock on the NDP nomination for the provincial election, is going to hurt her here. She lost that nomination bid and all of a sudden she needed to look for a job and she would look foolish coming back to try to run for her council seat again after her prior remarks.

MrSlippery519 · #**112** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 2:56 PM**

Cheng is that high, that is very surprising as he talking points have been pretty weak compared to others. Is he maybe simply getting votes from previous who supported him?

I feel like he would be the worst possible mayor

TallerIsBetter · #**113** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 7:23 PM**

I wish someone would ask the most important question for this forum: is there actually a codified limit on height of buildings in London, if so what is it, if so do you agree, if not do you support a codified limit (if so how high, and why), or should it be on a case by case basis? Also, what is the tallest building you would like to see London have if someone wanted to build it in the next 10 years?

Remember...

TallerIsBetter!

jammer139 · #**114** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 9:55 PM**

Build as high as your financing permits. There should be no limits in the downtown core. Higher density reduces sprawl and encourages efficient resource usage. I would love to see 50+ storey towers downtown.

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Originally Posted by TallerIsBetter

I wish someone would ask the most important question for this forum: is there actually a codified limit on height of buildings in London, if so what is it, if so do you agree, if not do you support a codified limit (if so how high, and why), or should it be on a case by case basis? Also, what is the tallest building you would like to see London have if someone wanted to build it in the next 10 years?

Remember...

TallerIsBetter!

Djeffery · #**115** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 10:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by jammer139

Build as high as your financing permits. There should be no limits in the downtown core. Higher density reduces sprawl and encourages efficient resource usage. I would love to see 50+ storey towers downtown.

Sure, but are you one of the candidates? And do you know if there is actually a civic code limiting current tower height?

Blitz · #**116** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 10:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Djeffery

I have no idea why anyone would choose to not mark down a 2nd and 3rd choice on the ranked ballot.

I had every intention of choosing a top 3 until I watched that debate and Cheng, Paolatto, and Holder all upset me with their answers. I realize there are 10 other people running for mayor but voting for any of those folk won't make any difference.

I did rank three in the Ward 13 city council race.

UpstairsCranberry · #**117** Posted **Oct 12, 2018, 11:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Djeffery

I have no idea why anyone would choose to not mark down a 2nd and 3rd choice on the ranked ballot. This is not directed to the post above, but I think many people are not informed on how it works. I was talking last week with someone who is otherwise pretty politically astute, and she said by casting more choices, you could be hurting your first choice. We talked, and she was under the impression this was like the recent Conservative federal and provincial leadership races where point values were assigned on a riding by riding basis based on the number of votes. Which is incorrect. Your 2nd place vote only comes into play after your first choice is eliminated, and your 3rd only comes in after your 2nd and 1st are gone. You definitely don't hurt your first choice's chances by choosing 2nd and 3rd. And it gives you a say should your first choice not end up being the winner.

Because there really are only 4 major candidates. All the other will not make it to another round. There is no way I will vote Cheng or Holder. I will vote Paolatto as a second, and that it. And if the London Free Press poll means anything, that second choice would be a waste as he is trailing the top three. I don't even like my first choice.

I hope next election will have some real candidates for mayor like Turner or Helmer.

UpstairsCranberry · #**118** Posted **Oct 13, 2018, 12:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by jammer139

Build as high as your financing permits. There should be no limits in the downtown core. Higher density reduces sprawl and encourages efficient resource usage. I would love to see 50+ storey towers downtown.

Never going to happen without some form of rapid transit, and something substantive than a BRT or LRT.
For the three going up right now that are not in the center of major cities like Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver are all at major heavy rail stations (subway or elevated), like Vaughan's Transit City, Surrey's 3 Civic Plaza, Burnaby's The Amazing Brentwood.

Djeffery · #**119** Posted **Oct 13, 2018, 5:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by UpstairsCranberry

Because there really are only 4 major candidates. All the other will not make it to another round. There is no way I will vote Cheng or Holder. I will vote Paolatto as a second, and that it. And if the London Free Press poll means anything, that second choice would be a waste as he is trailing the top three. I don't even like my first choice.

I hope next election will have some real candidates for mayor like Turner or Helmer.

They only drop one per round, so it's theoretically possible that of the few thousand votes those 11 or 12 "no name" candidates get, their 2nd and 3rd place choices could affect who the 4th place is when it finally gets to that point, sometime the day after the election.

Dupcheck · #**120** Posted **Oct 16, 2018, 12:31 PM**

Cheng hit the nail on the head this morning on CBC radio. Kudos to him.