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Old Posted Jun 6, 2018, 7:27 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks these looks strangely out of place given their surroundings? I like them but just seem to be in the wrong place.
no, there is a ton of housing like this all over the area...
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2018, 7:38 PM
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^ Somebody needs to build one of these in Streeterville, to balance out all of those giant glassy boxes in the sky
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Am I the only one that thinks these looks strangely out of place given their surroundings? I like them but just seem to be in the wrong place.
No, there’s clusters of 1800’s era 2-4 story buildings nearby of the same scale. A break in height and massing allows taller buildings to be revealed and appreciated. Plus my thought is if something tall isn’t built here, it will be built elsewhere, perhaps extending the skyline.
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I'm in favor of most downtown districts to have a wide variety of mix-used buildings. This helps further that end and from the photos at least it looks like the workmanship is pretty solid or better.

It's nitpicking but I wouldn't mind it seeing one or two more floors added on to match the streetwall height of the pre-war condos down the block. That is far cry from expecting every buildling in the the area need be 12-30 floors however.
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I used to live a block from these rowhomes. I can tell who is not familiar with the area by the comments. These are not out of place with the area. They are out of place with what the picture shows. There are numerous late 19th century/early 20th century low rise buildings close to this.
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The problem with projects like that is, to be successful, they need to be a 100% replication of the original style (as opposed to a simulation); go down to 99%, and cognitive (and thus aesthetic) dissonance sets in, and the illusion is breached.

Thus is the issue with this specific project. Its mass in plan is the size and has the proportions of a high-rise, and it looks it.
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Am I the only one that thinks these looks strangely out of place given their surroundings? I like them but just seem to be in the wrong place.
You are not alone, but for me it has more to do with their scale and the somewhat subjective desire for them to be one story taller with the bay standing 3 stories tall not a stumpy feeling 2. But that would probably screw up their program for the development, but that's what I would have done. It seems strange to see the older building on the right be taller than this new development.
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Speaking of this block, have there been any signs of movement (either on site or in the permit world) of the Bush Temple addition building?



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The cladding stone on these is disappointing. Maybe it’ll look better with age. I’m still glad that someone tried.

And yes the bay windows should extend the whole height of the building.
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Speaking of this block, have there been any signs of movement (either on site or in the permit world) of the Bush Temple addition building?
No activity as of yesterday, when I walked past the site. It's fenced off and there were a couple of cars parked there.
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I did not fully appreciate the size of this project..... not your average makeover!
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Speaking of Sears/Willis Tower construction, does anybody know why the antenna lights haven't been turned on since April (to my best recollection)? Also although I don't see it every night it appears the same might apply to Hancock/875 N Michigan.
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Speaking of Sears/Willis Tower construction, does anybody know why the antenna lights haven't been turned on since April (to my best recollection)? Also although I don't see it every night it appears the same might apply to Hancock/875 N Michigan.
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Speaking of this block, have there been any signs of movement (either on site or in the permit world) of the Bush Temple addition building?
I heard a spring/summer start. But Cedar is pretty loose with keeping to their timelines.
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The cladding stone on these is disappointing. Maybe it’ll look better with age. I’m still glad that someone tried.

And yes the bay windows should extend the whole height of the building.

yea i mean for all the ballyhoo about "no expense spared", this is pretty underwhelming.
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Sigh. New limestone doesn't look old at first, folks. It's gotta develop a patina. Look at 15 CPW in NY which is only now starting to show some patina.

Also, though... you would think with underground parking and real limestone on those rowhouses, it would just be a drop in the bucket to do real copper trims, but
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age isnt gonna fix that pop top. or those double hung windows that look like theyre off the shelf from Home Depot
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or those double hung windows that look like theyre off the shelf from Home Depot
what are you talking about?

the windows clearly have Marvin stickers on them.

that's a high-end, high-quality residential window product.

Marvin is the freaking antithesis of "off the shelf from Home Depot".

If Marvin windows won't satisfy your impossibly high standards, then nothing in this world will.
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^Oh come on. Those are high end black aluminum clad Marvin windows. The last time I checked that's not the same thing as the Pella vinyl econo line at the Home Depot. Perhaps upper sash mullions would have been appropriate but obviously that's not what buyers are wanting.
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