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Old Posted Apr 19, 2016, 9:09 PM
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I stumbled across a Holocaust Memorial when I was in New Orleans recently.

It was on the Mississippi boardwalk, quite small and not in your face HUGE like the one they are about to build in Ottawa.

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Work set to begin — at last — on new National Holocaust Monument

Don Butler, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 29, 2016 | Last Updated: April 29, 2016 6:13 PM EDT


Work should begin within two weeks on the National Holocaust Monument, the largest and most complex new monument in Ottawa since the National War Memorial in 1939.

Earlier this month, the National Capital Commission awarded a $7.4-million contract for the monument’s construction to the UCC Group Inc., whose copyrighted motto is “Builders of Dreamscapes.”

An earlier attempt to tender the contract had to be abandoned after all the bids came in at least 60 per cent over the $8.95-million budget. That prompted design changes last summer aimed at reducing the costs.

The tendering problems delayed construction of the monument, to be built near the Canadian War Museum at Booth and Wellington streets, for a year. It is now expected to be completed in the spring of 2017.

The large monument, designed by architect Daniel Libeskind, resembles a stylized Star of David when viewed from above.

It consists of six concrete and metal triangular walls displaying large landscape photos by photographer Edward Burtynsky, enclosing a central area and contemplation space featuring an eternal flame.

The Department of Canadian Heritage, which is responsible for monuments in the capital, is expected to announce details of a dedication ceremony in the coming weeks.

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Still building the bunker:



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I think we can change this one to 'Under Construction'

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This is slated to open tomorrow (Sept 27). Does anyone have any info about a ceremony/time? I can't find anything other than the fact that its supposed to happen.
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This is slated to open tomorrow (Sept 27). Does anyone have any info about a ceremony/time? I can't find anything other than the fact that its supposed to happen.
Let the drug-dealing and other funny business in the dark corners begin
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It looks cool from above, but at street level it's just a sad concrete blob of meh.
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It looks cool from above, but at street level it's just a sad concrete blob of meh.
Yes, it should have been much cheerier ...
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It looks cool from above, but at street level it's just a sad concrete blob of meh.
Street level when lit looks good at night - opening ceremony is at 4 today.
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Maybe the War Museum could market it as their new "Post-bombing Cityscape" exhibit?
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Now, here is my issue. The War Museum recently declared the sighting of an Afghanistan War monument as too close to the museum, and that it might give the wrong idea of the intent of the museum. I look at this monument from the angles shown above, and all I see is what could be an annex to the museum.
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Now, here is my issue. The War Museum recently declared the sighting of an Afghanistan War monument as too close to the museum, and that it might give the wrong idea of the intent of the museum. I look at this monument from the angles shown above, and all I see is what could be an annex to the museum.
I think the proximity and similarity in forms of this monument to the War Museum is unfortunate. It presents a triumphalist conflation that somehow the Holocaust was one of the main reasons Canada fought WW2. The Holocaust was a terrible Nazi atrocity, but the war was fought over Germany's expansionism and fascism, and Canada entered because Britain and its allies were threatened.
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2017, 11:25 PM
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National Holocaust Monument unveiled in downtown Ottawa

Andrew Duffy, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: September 27, 2017 | Last Updated: September 27, 2017 6:53 PM EDT




The long wait for a national Holocaust memorial ended Wednesday with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau inaugurating the city’s newest monument in downtown Ottawa.

For many in the invitation-only crowd that gathered inside the National War Museum — a heavy downpour forced the event to be relocated across the street from the monument — it was an emotional moment.

Eva Kuper, 76, of Montreal was two years old when she was ordered with her mother from Poland’s Warsaw Ghetto to a train station where they were to board a cattle car for Treblinka. At the last moment, however, a relative intervened — she said Eva was her child — and Eva was passed out of the packed car hand-over-hand. She was returned to her father, Antek, in the Warsaw Ghetto and they later escaped through the sewer system.

Her mother, Fela, was killed by the Nazis within an hour of arriving at the Treblinka extermination camp.

“I am gratified to be a witness today to this momentous occasion when Canada unveils a striking and evocative monument to the Holocaust,” Kuper, now 76, told the audience. “It is a fitting tribute to the victims, the survivors, and to the Canadians who took part in defeating the Nazis.”

Rabbi Rueven Bulka said the inauguration of the event concludes a decades-long campaign to see a Holocaust memorial built in Ottawa.

“It has been an exercise in patience, which is something we’ve learned over the course of the centuries,” he said in an interview. He called the monument the fulfilment of a promise that finally puts Canada on par with other Western democracies.

“It has always hurt me as a Canadian when I would go somewhere and be asked why we don’t have a Holocaust memorial in the capital. I no longer have to apologize and say, ‘It’s a lamentable thing.’”

Heritage Minister Mélanie Joly said the monument honours those lost to the Holocaust while also speaking to “the strength and courage of the survivors who made it to Canada.” An estimated 40,000 survivors immigrated to Canada.

“It is the courage of these survivors, the willingness of these survivors to share their experiences that ensures this will never happen again,” she said.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau welcomed the city’s newest monument, saying: “We now have a place here in our nation’s capital where families can come together to learn, to ask those tough questions, to grieve and to remember.”

He told the audience it’s also important to acknowledge that Canada, in June 1939, refused to provide sanctuary to the European Jews aboard the MS St. Louis, some 254 of whom would later die in the Holocaust.

“May this monument remind us to always open our arms and hearts to those in need,” Trudeau said.

The star-shaped monument stands at the northeast corner of Booth and Wellington Streets, across from the Canadian War Museum, and is the largest one built in the capital in more than 70 years.

Rabbi Daniel Friedman, the grandson of Holocaust survivors, chaired the National Holocaust Monument Development Council, which raised $4.5 million for the design and construction of the monument. He said the monument should be a required stop for every visiting foreign dignitary and every schoolchild.

“It has been a very long work in progress, but we have reached the goal: It’s something I’m very proud of,” he said in an interview. “It really symbolizes who we are as Canadians.”

Mina Cohn, director of the Centre for Holocaust Education and Scholarship at Carleton University’s Max and Tessie Zelikovitz Centre for Jewish Studies, carried her grandmother’s brooch to the ceremony as an act of remembrance. Cohn said the brooch was the only family possessions to survive the war.

“Having this place to go to is so important,” said Cohn, the daughter of two Holocaust survivors. “I think about all of the survivors who still now carry the burden or remembering and telling the story. Now, finally, there’s this monument that will talk for them when they’re not here.”

The drive to build a national Holocaust monument was spearheaded in 2007 by Laura Grosman, then an 18-year-old public administration student at the University of Ottawa. She was appalled by Canada’s lack of recognition for Holocaust victims, and lobbied federal politicians to enact legislation to build one.

A private member’s bill launched by Conservative Tim Uppal, a Sikh from Edmonton, became law in March 2011.

In May 2014, a selection jury awarded design of the monument to a team, led by Lord Cultural Resources of Toronto, that included architect Daniel Libeskind, landscape architect Claude Cormier, photographer Edward Burtynsky and University of Toronto historian Doris Bergen. Their winning design was titled Landscape of Loss, Memory and Survival. It features six triangular concrete structures that create the points of a star, along with Burtynsky’s large, monochromatic photos of Holocaust sites.

The monument opens to the public Thursday.

The Holocaust involved the systematic, state-sponsored murder of six million Jews by the Nazis, who believed Jews were inferior to Germans and represented a threat to Aryan racial purity. Other victims of the Holocaust included Roma, homosexuals and the physically and mentally disabled.



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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 8:08 PM
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Im glad the monument exists, dont get me wrong. I also agree with the location. But for the millions spent, from the photos Ive seen, this is not what we should have created. We should have created something less monolithic and something more akin to a museum park (could have still maintained the current brutalism). But that might just be me.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 9:53 PM
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It looks interesting when viewed from above. However, the street level view is very plain. Having it all in concrete also makes it really bland. Imagine the view during winter time, it will be really bleak and cold.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 11:23 PM
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I'm really confused why big and bleak and cold and bland are BAD things when wanting people to consider the sheer monstrosity and bleakness of what the monument represents. If this were whimsical or playful in any way it would be terribly offensive. People have the rest of their lives to visit cute monuments and relax in parks. They can spend 10 minutes of solemn reflection in a space that leaves them feeling empty. That's the point.
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I'm really confused why big and bleak and cold and bland are BAD things when wanting people to consider the sheer monstrosity and bleakness of what the monument represents.
Do other terrible events in world history deserve a memorial in Canada's capital? If so, do they all warrant a prime lot in this city, turned cold and bleak?

The holocaust deserves commemoration, without a doubt. But is this the best way?

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If this were whimsical or playful in any way it would be terribly offensive. People have the rest of their lives to visit cute monuments and relax in parks. They can spend 10 minutes of solemn reflection in a space that leaves them feeling empty. That's the point.
It's a false dichotomy - something can be solemn and respectful without being massive and ugly. This, and the originally proposed victims of communism memorial rub me the wrong way.

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Old Posted Sep 29, 2017, 4:02 AM
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I took a walk through the monument today, as was actually quite pleased with it. There were few quiet reflection seating areas on the inside with some design features like the small "eternal flame," the little shrubbed seating area on the point facing parliament, stark visuals screened directly onto the concrete, a fairly detailed timeline that included info on anti-Jewish sentiment in Canada (and a really large number of security cameras and emergency call-boxes).

I frankly don't understand the odd degree of resistance so many people seem to have when it comes to this monument (or to the Victims of Communism monument, for that matter). One would think that, if *anything* were to warrant a brutal, highly-visible monument, would it not be the Holocaust? Is it possible to *over*-emphasize the Holocaust?

I also noticed on a plaque inside that the second largest donor for the monument's construction was a Muslim organization. When I hear people advocate for more-generic "victims of genocide" monuments or "victims of totalitarianism" monuments, I can't help but think: why? Is it not important to identify and name specific instances of these things, particularly the most horrifying examples, so that they never slip from the public conscience? The Muslim group that donated to the construction of this monument seemed to think so.
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