Power Centre Development

[MaxHeadroom]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Could they just set up next door in The Nation municipality instead? Have they considered setting up shop in Limoges or Casselman if Russell is blocking them?

Brigil had plans for a Power Centre mixed use development at 417 and Limoges Rd http://www.brigil.com/community/125-limoges near the Calypso Waterpark, which is right on the townline, but it looks like it fizzled out.

The new Embrun Fire Hall is in the middle of nowhere on route 300, so the township has made it clear that they intend to expand north.

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by MaxHeadroom

Brigil had plans for a Power Centre mixed use development at 417 and Limoges Rd http://www.brigil.com/community/125-limoges near the Calypso Waterpark, which is right on the townline, but it looks like it fizzled out.

The new Embrun Fire Hall is in the middle of nowhere on route 300, so the township has made it clear that they intend to expand north.

Russell-Embrun is actually very limited in how much it can expand. Most of the township's land area is designated as prime agricultural land which prevents urbanization, which IIRC, effectively caps the township at a population of about 25,000. The land in between Embrun & Russell is mostly not protected; so in this future max-build out, Embrun & Russell will form a continuous urban area of about 20,000 people.

[MountainView]

There may have been a thread on this back in 2014 - I can't remember or not. But there has been a sign at the corner of Limebank and Earl Armstrong for a few weeks now indicating a new retail centre to be built. I have been waiting for it to appear on the Development Application page and it finally has as an application reactivation.

HERE is a link to the site plan. Unsure if it warrants its own thread or not.

It will be a supermarket anchor with strip plazas and pad stores spread out across the property; being built in two phases.

As of now I believe the only confirmed tenants - according to the road sign - are Food Basics, TD Bank, and I believe a Tim Horton's.

If I recall correctly back in 2014 when the application was first submitted the Food Basics was originally a Metro. But I guess with the bridge open and a Metro just down Strandherd they would rather make this a Food Basics.

[TransitZilla]

Originally Posted by MountainView

There may have been a thread on this back in 2014 - I can't remember or not. But there has been a sign at the corner of Limebank and Earl Armstrong for a few weeks now indicating a new retail centre to be built. I have been waiting for it to appear on the Development Application page and it finally has as an application reactivation.

HERE is a link to the site plan. Unsure if it warrants its own thread or not.

It will be a supermarket anchor with strip plazas and pad stores spread out across the property; being built in two phases.

As of now I believe the only confirmed tenants - according to the road sign - re Food Basics, TD Bank, and I believe a Tim Horton's.

If I recall correctly back in 2014 when the application was first submitted the Food Basics was originally a Metro. But I guess with the bridge open and a Metro just down Strandherd they would rather make this a Food Basics.

There are actually 2 separate proposals at this intersection. The NE corner (1423 Earl Armstrong) is the one owned by Metro and will apparently feature a store with the Food Basics banner (which is a Metro brand).

The site plan you posted is for a separate development at the SE corner (1420 Earl Armstrong) which is owned by Morguard. It looks like they are also proposing a supermarket.

[MountainView]

Originally Posted by bradnixon

There are actually 2 separate proposals at this intersection. The NE corner (1423 Earl Armstrong) is the one owned by Metro and will apparently feature a store with the Food Basics banner (which is a Metro brand).

The site plan you posted is for a separate development at the SE corner (1420 Earl Armstrong) which is owned by Morguard. It looks like they are also proposing a supermarket.

Ahh okay!! This makes sense - because the sign I was referring to is in the NE corner parcel and that did confuse me. Thanks for the clarification. I shall try and hunt down the site plan for the 1423 proposal.

[rocketphish]

New Smart Centre coming to Innes and Mer Bleue

By Brier Dodge, Orleans News
Jan 16, 2017



A new Smart Centre will be coming to Innes and Mer Bleue Roads, on an undeveloped parcel of land south of Innes and east of Mer Bleue.

The 20-hectare Smart Centre will have an Indigo and Marshalls, along with space for 12 other tenants, according to the site plan.

Leasing rep Catherine McKenna said Indigo and Marshalls were the only confirmed tenants, but she expected other tenants to be announced soon.

McKenna said SmartREIT, which owns Smart Centres, will look to open in summer 2018.

It will be the second Smart Centre in Orléans, with the first located further west on Innes Road, in the plaza with the Walmart, Canadian Tire and Home Outfitters.

Brier Dodge is a reporter-photographer with the Orléans News and Ottawa Metroland Media publications. She can be reached at [email protected].

http://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/news-...rt-centre-coming-to-innes-and-mer-bleue/

[waterloowarrior]

That will complete the 3 km stretch of power centres along Innes. Impressive, that's the same distance as Bank between Wellington and TD Plaace.

[hwy418]

Site plan can be found here.

The Baton Rouge is loooong overdue in Orleans!

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Leasing rep Catherine McKenna said Indigo and Marshalls were the only confirmed tenants, but she expected other tenants to be announced soon.

Interesting that this SmartCentre employee has the same name as our federal cabinet minister.

[Harley613]

Originally Posted by hwy418

Site plan can be found here.

The Baton Rouge is loooong overdue in Orleans!

Orleans is severely lacking 'fine' dining. Occo Kitchen is the pinnacle IMHO and everything else is a pub or a chain. Baton Rouge is a chain, but one of the better ones...

[Harley613]

I noticed yesterday when driving down industrial that Nordstrom Rack is coming to the Trainyards in a new phase across from the Pioneer. The Trainyards keeps growing!

[Harley613]

While scouring the Trainyards from the air I noticed something...does Phase 1 have solar power? Sail as well?

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by Harley613

I noticed yesterday when driving down industrial that Nordstrom Rack is coming to the Trainyards in a new phase across from the Pioneer. The Trainyards keeps growing!

See also http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7287492

[hwy418]

Originally Posted by Harley613

Orleans is severely lacking 'fine' dining. Occo Kitchen is the pinnacle IMHO and everything else is a pub or a chain. Baton Rouge is a chain, but one of the better ones...

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Harley613

Orleans is severely lacking 'fine' dining. Occo Kitchen is the pinnacle IMHO and everything else is a pub or a chain. Baton Rouge is a chain, but one of the better ones...

Occo Kitchen is fairly new in Orleans. Give it time - Orleans may kill it off too.

The two longest-lasting restaurants in Orleans that offer something finer and different are ethnic: the Little Turkish Village and the Pearl of India.

The people who own the Brasserie Ste-Marthe places (now a second location) have also carved out a decent niche for themselves. Hopefully they will survive.

But generally speaking, the word on the street in the restaurant industry is that Orleans is mostly a "dead zone" for finer dining and anything that's not fast food or an established middle of the road chain.

It mystifies a lot of people because if you go by the usual stereotypes, since Orleans has lots of francophones you'd think, well... you know.

Note that I am pretty sure Orleans lost its only fine(r) cheese shop last year, which closed for a lack of business. And this is an affluent mostly white-collar suburb of over 100,000 people. It also doesn't really have a fine pastry shop. Nor does it have a small, fine(r) food grocery AFAIK.

But it could be that Orleans mostly draws that precise type of person (francophone or otherwise) for whom epicurean fineries are not especially important.

If that stuff is really important to you, I guess you probably won't choose to live in Orleans.

[rocketphish]

Originally Posted by Harley613

Orleans is severely lacking 'fine' dining. Occo Kitchen is the pinnacle IMHO and everything else is a pub or a chain. Baton Rouge is a chain, but one of the better ones...

Maybe it's fine diners that are lacking in Orleans. If there were more of them then maybe fine dining would be sustainable?

[hwy418]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

Maybe it's fine diners that are lacking in Orleans. If there were more of them then maybe fine dining would be sustainable?

Ouch! There is plenty of disposable income in the east end and no it's not a hipster/yuppie/dink market. Moxies just doesn't cut it. Little Turkish Village and the Pearl of India are big time passé and these places are super tired.

If I'm looking for "epicurean fineries", then I will have that downtown.

I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that Baton Rouge and even a Keg would do nicely in a market that is about as large as the City of Kingston.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by hwy418

Ouch! There is plenty of disposable income in the east end and no it's not a hipster/yuppie/dink market. Moxies just doesn't cut it. Little Turkish Village and the Pearl of India are big time passé and these places are super tired.

If I'm looking for "epicurean fineries", then I will have that downtown.

I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that Baton Rouge and even a Keg would do nicely in a market that is about as large as the City of Kingston.

There is lots of disposable income in Orleans but the point is that most people aren't interested in spending a decent chunk of it on "epicurean delights".

I've stopped counting how many "nice" restaurants, both chains and independents, have tried and failed in Orleans.

And you probably see a bit more of the higher end stuff in a suburb like Kanata because incomes aren't so massively in the comfy "public service" range like they are in Orleans. Obviously Kanata has lots of public servants too, but there is a much larger demographic of hi-tech and other business people out there who make way more money than even a senior public servant does.

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by Acajack

And you probably see a bit more of the higher end stuff in a suburb like Kanata because incomes aren't so massively in the comfy "public service" range like they are in Orleans. Obviously Kanata has lots of public servants too, but there is a much larger demographic of hi-tech and other business people out there who make way more money than even a senior public servant does.

There's also a common "independent-ist" (for lack of a better word) attitude in Kanata-Stittsville. Lots of people who live there also work there, and generally insist on doing the bulk of their shopping, dining, and recreation out there too. It's not everyone there obviously, and it might not even be a majority, but there is a definite group out there who make a point of almost never going anywhere east of Bayshore and will proudly boast of how little they go downtown.

This attitude is pretty much non existent out in Orleans; people there seem happy to go downtown to get their fix of fine dining and entertainment.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by 1overcosc

There's also a common "independent-ist" (for lack of a better word) attitude in Kanata-Stittsville. Lots of people who live there also work there, and generally insist on doing the bulk of their shopping, dining, and recreation out there too. It's not everyone there obviously, and it might not even be a majority, but there is a definite group out there who make a point of almost never going anywhere east of Bayshore and will proudly boast of how little they go downtown.

This attitude is pretty much non existent out in Orleans; people there seem happy to go downtown to get their fix of fine dining and entertainment.

Correct. The east end of Ottawa and areas to the east of it like Orleans and beyond have always had less nightlife in general than the west end. You never really had a suburban bar scene like you had (modestly) on Merivale Road, for example.

When I was a youth, everyone from Orleans, Rockland, Embrun, Casselman, etc. used to go out in downtown Ottawa or Hull. It's as if there wasn't anything in between those places and downtown.