Edmonton Construction 13 (November 2015) - Page 233

Hallsy's Toupee · #**4641** Posted **Sep 30, 2016, 11:39 PM**

I noticed one of the new downtown firms coming to Enbridge Place is Hines, an international real estate investment firm whose only presence seems to be in Calgary and Toronto thus far. Will they be the ones managing Enbridge Place?

Coldrsx · #**4642** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 12:04 AM**

80 storey tower 'planned'

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-ne...ould-smash-western-canada-height-records

Hallsy's Toupee · #**4643** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 1:59 AM**

Another article on the Dynalife takeover - superlab still planned
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/a...ry-service-for-entire-province-1.3787063

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As part of the new system, the province is also planning to build a giant new lab in the Edmonton area that can handle a larger volume and wider variety of medical tests. Chies said the new lab will serve as the hub for all of Edmonton and northern Alberta.

CMD UW · #**4644** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 3:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

I noticed one of the new downtown firms coming to Enbridge Place is Hines, an international real estate investment firm whose only presence seems to be in Calgary and Toronto thus far. Will they be the ones managing Enbridge Place?

I noticed this awhile ago and was curious as to why they've opened up an office here. I guess we'll find out in due time.

s211 · #**4645** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 3:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by CMD UW

I noticed this awhile ago and was curious as to why they've opened up an office here. I guess we'll find out in due time.

IIRC, the word was they were taking 5,000 sf which seems large for just a PM office.

Was Hines possibly AIMCO's development manager for Manulife 2 at one time? Or am I mixing them up with another like firm?

ibz · #**4646** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 3:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by CMD UW

I noticed this awhile ago and was curious as to why they've opened up an office here. I guess we'll find out in due time.

Hines has been hiring property management people in the city so makes sense that this would be a management office (I would assume they have been retained to managed KR building but that is just a guess).

canucklehead2 · #**4647** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 4:01 PM**

I for one am all for building the Aldritt tower as high as possible. What East Jasper Village needs is people. Period. The more units the better. The area is essentially a vacant hell-scape of abandoned buildings, broken dreams and social service uses. Plus, it would be nice to see a 900'+ tower in Edmonton. And let's face it, the views from the tower would be unparalleled in Alberta...

s13 · #**4648** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 4:10 PM**

^ I don't know much about Alldrit, but I'm presuming $0.5B in financing for a single tower for them will be an issue if this even remotely got anywhere?

GreenSPACE · #**4649** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 4:34 PM**

StatsCan is moving to the ATB Tower, in case that hadn't previously been mentioned.

hilman · #**4650** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by GreenSPACE

StatsCan is moving to the ATB Tower, in case that hadn't previously been mentioned.

Where are they moving from?

Hallsy's Toupee · #**4651** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 7:56 PM**

^ Their current office is in Canada Place

hilman · #**4652** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 9:18 PM**

Thanks!

240glt · #**4653** Posted **Oct 1, 2016, 11:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

I noticed one of the new downtown firms coming to Enbridge Place is Hines, an international real estate investment firm whose only presence seems to be in Calgary and Toronto thus far. Will they be the ones managing Enbridge Place?

That is correct

Black Star · #**4654** Posted **Oct 2, 2016, 1:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

80 storey tower 'planned'

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-ne...ould-smash-western-canada-height-records

I swear.....If this gets built at 80 stories...the drinks will be on me at the Drake.

What better way to celebrate this then with a dive bar experience. Draft beer in those skinny glasses.

Coldrsx · #**4655** Posted **Oct 2, 2016, 3:02 PM**

WSP Tower by Procura, looking good I must say!

Light on on the podium, what a difference this makes to that corner.

technomad · #**4656** Posted **Oct 2, 2016, 3:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Light on on the podium, what a difference this makes to that corner.

while it's nice to have this one finally done.. to me, this one really has become Edmonton's 'live on the park'

separately, the podium and 'tower' could look good, but together it comes off very awkward from the street. those roof boxes aren't helping the awkward either..

pulling the podium back to match the footprint of the 'tower' portion closer would have really improved the feel of this one, and opened up a larger street front space for patios/etc on one of downtown's busiest intersections

speaking of those blocks, has there ever been an update on plans/timeline for the lots on 109 st south of WSP?

Coldrsx · #**4657** Posted **Oct 2, 2016, 3:26 PM**

^yes but sunlight penetration is much better which is a bonus.

technomad · #**4658** Posted **Oct 2, 2016, 4:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by kcantor

not sure what the "market" would be but they wouldn't meet building code requirements to be considered (labelled/marketed/insured etc.) as bedrooms. that's why the "inside spaces" in some of the west coast/toronto marets are marketed as dens or offices. some jurisdictions won't even issue permits for them if they're enclosed (i.e. no doors) or if they have storage space (i.e. no closets). as well as building codes, these "unofficial bedrooms" play havoc with calculating the minimum/maximum number of parking stalls needed as that's done per unit depending on how many bedrooms it contains.

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Is there a market for units were 2 or 3 of the bedrooms don't have windows? It is hard on these floorplates that were well designed to be efficient offices!

looking at some of the floor plate diagrams, I'm not sure having bedrooms without windows would be a huge issue?

http://www.strategicgroup.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/cn_tower_suite_2501.pdf?x30244

in the case of CN, we could treat the number of parking stalls as the unit maximum, so 220 max

over 27 floors, that means no more than 8 units per floor, which would give an average unit size of 1700 sq ft, plenty of space for 3 or 4 bedrooms, half of which at least could have windows

could also be interesting to go the loft route, just carve the floors out into separate unfinished spaces, and let people complete the interior to their own liking, anywhere from bedrooms for a family of 6, to epic bachelor suite

technomad · #**4659** Posted **Oct 2, 2016, 4:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^yes but sunlight penetration is much better which is a bonus.

how's that?

realize that being on the SW corner, and having WSP directly west doesn't give it great afternoon sun, so the block immediately north is much better for patios

but having room for a few tables outside would have been really helpful for a cafe targeting the lunch crowds

Coldrsx · #**4660** Posted **Oct 2, 2016, 4:05 PM**

Sun for the north...