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Old Posted May 12, 2015, 1:21 PM
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Which document are you two looking at? The "400 Stewart Street Urban Design Analysis April 2014; (17 M)" still says 31 storeys; is that out of date? (I do wish they put the "posted on ___" date beside these files)

Would 640m2 be the smallest floorplate for highrise proposal in this city? It's smaller than any I've looked at in detail.
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Boooooooring....... Zzzzzzzz

Could they have designed something any less inspiring?!?
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Old Posted May 12, 2015, 2:47 PM
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Old Posted May 12, 2015, 3:48 PM
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I was reading the updates and I fell asleep...what did I miss?
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looks like they shaved off 10 storeys, its at 21 now if I count the last rendering?
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Old Posted May 13, 2015, 12:02 AM
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Frankly, 31 floors was a bit overkill for that spot. I'm ok with the revised 21 storeys. The design is better too; the old one looked like the modernized Fenwick Tower in Halifax.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2015, 5:40 PM
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Proposed 18-storey tower meets chorus of opposition in Sandy Hill
City staff, councillor and community reject plan

By Alex Robinson
Ottawa East News, Jun 05, 2015


A Montreal-based developer has shrunk its proposal to build a mammoth 32-storey residential tower in Sandy Hill to 18 storeys, but city staff, the community and the local councillor are still not happy.

Rio Vista Apartments first proposed to build the 32-storey tower in 2013 next to an existing high rise at 400 Stewart and immediately met community opposition.

The developer was asked to go back to the drawing board by city staff and the project was put on hold. A new proposal was submitted in January, but it was not made public until the end of April.

Don Herweyer, a manager of development with the city, said the delay came from administrative issues, including a change of lead on the file.

“We felt that the resubmission needed more work, so there was also some delay setting up a meeting with the applicant,” he said. “We wanted to say we don’t think from our perspective this is going to fly and we don’t think the community is going to be on board. Do you want to go back to the drawing board? We finally met with them in April and they said to post it.”

City staff has rejected the new proposal, saying the scale is still far too big and out of context with the area.

“We’re trying to focus those types of developments around our transit stations, town centres, main streets and downtown areas,” Herweyer said. “This isn’t one of those sites we see as a high priority for intensification and further development. The key here will be getting something that fits in well with the neighbourhood.”

The proposed building would front onto Daly Avenue, and would have 163 residential units, down from 226. The site currently has a parking lot and a patch of green space.

In addition to concerns over size and scale, the developer has still not submitted all the necessary paperwork for its application. Herweyer said some of the more technical studies would not be updated until the developer either decides to try to push through the current proposal or submits an alternative.

The community has remained opposed to the building in its most recent rendition, saying the developer has given no consideration to the development’s placement.

“It is as though they copied and pasted something from another city and stuck it into the proposal,” said Elizabeth Grace, a resident, who along with her husband, Marc Tremblay, were a few of many nearby residents opposed to the high rise complex.

Residents see the proposed site as a buffer between their homes and the existing high rise building.

“We need to have some green space to compensate for this concrete block,” Grace said of the existing building.

“To balance off the footprint of the tower there is designated green space. I think the developer is hoping to forget about the need for green space so he can build on it, which would get rid of the needed buffer.”

When the original Rio Vista tower was built in the 1960s, the city included a floor space index, which was a cap that prevented further building on the property, but that was removed when the city amalgamated, Herweyer said.

Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury said he was pleased to see city staff was quick to reject the proposal.

“It’s rare you see planning staff right off the bat shutting it down,” he said.

“I never thought you’d see development proposed for that site as there is already a pretty massive development there.”

Action Sandy Hill, the neighbourhood’s community association, also added its voice to the chorus of opposition against the building.

Rio Vista Apartments could not be reached for comment before this paper’s deadline.

http://www.ottawacommunitynews.com/news-...eets-chorus-of-opposition-in-sandy-hill/
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Oh for pete's sake.

If I have time, I'm going to show up to one of the meetings and say that as a Sandy Hill resident, ASH does not speak for me, and furthermore, a "community association" without a single member under the age of 30 can't possibly represent a community where half the population is 18-29 years old.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2015, 6:28 PM
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Oh for pete's sake.

If I have time, I'm going to show up to one of the meetings and say that as a Sandy Hill resident, ASH does not speak for me, and furthermore, a "community association" without a single member under the age of 30 can't possibly represent a community where half the population is 18-29 years old.
I'm not sure any community association anywhere has a member under 30.
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I'm not sure any community association anywhere has a member under 30.
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If you ever get a chance please do. The make-up of people who go to consultations like this tend to be the older, often grey-haired (retired) crowd who argue for their own benefit with antiquated beliefs. We should get more younger people involved, but if a CA is hostile to young people they should be called out for not representing the people they claim to represent.

I support you!
That would be the CFRA nation in many of the suburban areas. If you are a business owner or own multiple properties in Sandy Hill, ASH doesn't want to hear from you.
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2015, 1:40 AM
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True.

When I first moved back to Ottawa from Montreal, I decided to try joining a community association because I naively thought I could contribute some fresh ideas to move the city forward. I went to a meeting with the Hintonburg Community Association and was told that they would send an e-mail to let me know when the next CA meeting was. I never got an e-mail from them (this was in 2013). Clearly they're not interested in hearing fresh ideas from young minds, just that from crotchety older property owners like themselves.
Don't give up. Community associations definitely need younger viewpoints.

As someone over 30 (but a good bit short of the dominant demographic of the GCA - old, retired and rich), I've been in and out of the community association over the years. I dropped out on principle when they wasted our fees on those ridiculous legal actions fighting Lansdowne, but have since come back in, if only to try to represent a different point of view. I've made the point a number of times that the GCA isn't representative and needs younger people involved. To be honest, even middle aged people with families are sorely under-represented, as they don't tend to have the time to devote to meetings. The powers that be seem quite receptive. They have added that to their strategic initiatives. So if you would consider moving, there is a spot for you a bit to the south....
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2015, 1:08 PM
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ASH only wants to hear from families living in a house in Sandy Hill then? So basically they want Sandy Hill to be an idyllic family-only suburb downtown.
They want Sandy Hill to be that sleepy suburb that is geographically downtown. They dont want growth, they dont want students, they dont want traffic and heaven forbid any buildings over 2 storeys! It is basically Glebe, but with more students.
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2015, 7:41 PM
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What's really concerning about this is how much the city listens to community associations. They have too much power in this city.
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