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[KevinW]

[source: kcet.org]

KCET says this photo was taken in Redondo Beach in 1939. I see so many oil derricks in the distance that I question whether that's accurate.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

It's not accurate. South Bay never looked like this. We're south of Long Beach here on the P.E. Southern line.

There's a map here

I would disagree. If you look at the map in the link it shows a LARR line from Playa Del Rey down to Redondo Beach and the oil derricks in the distance would be Venice beach any time from the 30's through the 50's.

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Another impressive residence...this time with crenellations.


ebay

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Has location ever been determined/confirmed?

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt367nc7pj/FID4

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by KevinW

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I would disagree. If you look at the map in the link it shows a LARR line from Playa Del Rey down to Redondo Beach and the oil derricks in the distance would be Venice beach any time from the 30's through the 50's.

Busted! I should have said South Bay never looked like that in my time. Apologies. The route was demolished starting in 1940: http://www.southbaydigs.com/los-angeles-pacific-railway/

[Handsome Stranger]

Originally Posted by KevinW

If you look at the map in the link it shows a LARR line from Playa Del Rey down to Redondo Beach and the oil derricks in the distance would be Venice beach any time from the 30's through the 50's.

I'll have to disagree. The distance along the coast between Venice and Redondo Beach would be at least ten miles, and those oil derricks appear to be much closer than that.

[BifRayRock]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Earlier tonight I came across this amazing aerial of the Rexall Corporate Headquarters at Beverly blvd. and La Cienega.


ebay

Kiddyland is visible at lower left. Eventually the Beverly Center would rise in Kiddyland's place.

Beverly Park info: http://rcdb.com/5621.htm

1946 (Rhubarb. The La Cienega derrick is out of sight http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5679449&postcount=7496)
http://hollywoodhistoricphotos.ipower.com/hhpstore/images/Beverly%20Park%201946%20WM.jpg



1949
http://hollywoodhistoricphotos.ipower.com/hhpstore/images/Beverly%20Park%201949%20CL%20WM.jpg


1940
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085762.jpg

[KevinW]

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger

I'll have to disagree. The distance along the coast between Venice and Redondo Beach would be at least ten miles, and those oil derricks appear to be much closer than that.

I don't think this is all the way down to Redondo. It's the Redondo line but it looks closer to El Segundo. Here's an aerial of that part of the coast before the PCH was built through there:

Standard Oil Refinery, El Segundo, 1924

wikipedia

Here also is a shot of Playa Del Rey, much closer to Redondo and it, too, was covered in Oil Rigs


California Historical Society Collection, USC Libraries.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Beverly Park info: http://rcdb.com/5621.htm

1946 (Rhubarb. The La Cienega derrick is out of sight http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5679449&postcount=7496)
http://hollywoodhistoricphotos.ipower.com/hhpstore/images/Beverly%20Park%201946%20WM.jpg



1949
http://hollywoodhistoricphotos.ipower.com/hhpstore/images/Beverly%20Park%201949%20CL%20WM.jpg

Here's myself and my older brother at Beverly Park around 1947. To me as a child the place was strange and rather tacky. I guess ''driving'' was very serious. This picture has been seen before.

Walt Disney took his daughters to Beverly Park. He abhorred it. From his distaste for the Park, he conceived the now world famous DisneyLands. I agree Walt....the place was unsavory. The rides were OK but the people who worked at the Park...good grief.

The strange thing is that my first job after college was at the Rexall Company Headquarters seen in the photos above posted by Bif . I worked in the advertising department in another building but all of my records were kept at the Headquarters building seen in the photo. I had Health Insurance...$8 a month. Can you believe it?


Personal album

[Lwize]

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger

I'll have to disagree. The distance along the coast between Venice and Redondo Beach would be at least ten miles, and those oil derricks appear to be much closer than that.

The color photo of the trolley says Newport Beach.
Maybe this is Huntington Beach in the distance.

[KevinW]

1940
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085762.jpg

Incredible that we are looking North (here's a later shot of the same Derrick) and you can't see the mountains because of the smog.

Automobile Club of Southern California Collection.

[BifRayRock]

1935 - La Cienega meets Pico Blvd. (Facing south on La Cienega)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p15799coll170/id/75895/rec/11




























Shell at 8500 Pico




8500 Pico, still occupied by Shell.

[JScott]

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido

If I remember well, the Amestoy was the first building to have an elevator. This seems not really useful for only two floors above the first.

Didn't the Hotel Nadeau actually have the first passenger elevator? If I recall correctly, the Amestoy was the first office building in town with an elevator.

[JScott]

Originally Posted by Lwize

The color photo of the trolley says Newport Beach.
Maybe this is Huntington Beach in the distance.

Another vote for Huntington Beach here.

[HenryHuntington]

Originally Posted by KevinW

[source: kcet.org]

KCET says this photo was taken in Redondo Beach in 1939. I see so many oil derricks in the distance that I question whether that's accurate.

I would disagree. If you look at the map in the link it shows a LARR line from Playa Del Rey down to Redondo Beach and the oil derricks in the distance would be Venice beach any time from the 30's through the 50's.[/QUOTE]

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I'm not precisely sure where this photo was taken, but it's definitely the Redondo via Del Rey line. Each bracket arm that carries the trolley wire is hung from one pole but spans both tracks, and this arrangement was unique to this line.

The Newport-Balboa line did have some beachfront right-of-way on a "shelf" adjacent to Pacific Coast Highway in Huntington Beach (now a bike path), but the trolley wire was suspended conventionally. -- HEH

[Lorendoc]

Here is a picture I took late this Valentine's Day afternoon with my cell phone - any guesses where it was taken from ? The crappy quality of the image is *almost* a feature, not a bug.

[tovangar2]

I think it's the building behind the station. What is that building for anyway?
I can't remember anything anymore.

Ack, now I'm thinking about Geoff Palmer. One of his monstrosities is north of there isn't it? The station's block is getting so junked up.

Originally Posted by Tetsu

I'm interested in Young's work too. Beaudry, I'm sure you're already familiar with the Alphonse J. Forget House he designed at 1026 S. Bonnie Brae Street, but since I have my own photo I thought I'd share anyway:

my photo

And a very similar house he designed which sits around the corner at 1851 W. 11th Street:

gsv

tetsu and Beaudry, both these houses have come up in posts re the Athletic Model Guild, which shared the intersection with them.

1047 S Bonnie Brae (1890) is pretty much a disaster inside, although a bit better now. I actually know someone who lives there. Students will put up with anything.

(1026 is nice too, but that's one other than your photo shows)

1047 and its neighbor to the south, 1053, are listed by the LA Conservancy in their Walking Tour brochure as having been moved from downtown. Is the Conservancy correct about this?

I am fond of 1851 W 11th Street. It's lovely, although hard to see with the present landscaping. I've often thought it was odd that 1851 is slotted in behind 1047 & 1053, depriving them of backyards.


google maps

Here's an earlier pic of 1851, before those queen palms got so big:

city project



Thank you e_r & HossC for the Amestoy Block pix. Perfect.

[JScott]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

JScott, here is a close-up of the ornamental fixture/fountain with young boys to give you a sense of the size.


old file #1

a slightly larger look at the ornamental 'fountain'.


And here's a good look at one of the sprinkler heads. (is that a young Joe Roig on the right? )


detail

After seeing what appear to be several areas of moisture leaking from the base, and one kid drinking from a cup, I'm pretty much convinced now that's just an overly ornate public drinking fountain. Being across from a Catholic church, though, I had another possibility in mind, but I seriously doubt a gang of young ne'er-do-wells like these characters would be lining up at a holy water font to dip their fingers in it to make the Sign of the Cross.

Thanks for the photo, e_r! Scary bunch of roughnecks, though. Yikes.

[JScott]

Here are various photos of the field of oil derricks at Huntington Beach from the 'Photos of Los Angeles' group on Facebook. People post pictures to this group basically willy-nilly without giving credits, so with one exception, the link to my search will unfortunately have to suffice for the source.




Facebook-'Photos of Los Angeles'




Facebook-'Photos of Los Angeles'




Facebook-'Photos of Los Angeles'




Facebook-'Photos of Los Angeles'




Phillips C. Kauke Photo, Phillips C. Kauke Collection, Stan Kistler Collection. (Image cropped for width.)

[JScott]

Originally Posted by Lorendoc

Here is a picture I took late this Valentine's Day afternoon with my cell phone - any guesses where it was taken from ? The crappy quality of the image is *almost* a feature, not a bug.

Sorry, I know this is kinda cheating, but...


Lorendoc

[JeffDiego]

Perhaps this has already been covered, but what exactly were "Boulevard Stops?" Signs saying Boulevard Stop have appeared here in numerous street photos from the 1920's through 40's. In the movie "Hollywood Canteen," (1944) a soldier new to Los Angeles is driving a woman home, and she says "Watch for the Boulevard Stops."

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by JeffDiego

Perhaps this has already been covered, but what exactly were "Boulevard Stops?" Signs saying Boulevard Stop have appeared here in numerous street photos from the 1920's through 40's. In the movie "Hollywood Canteen," (1944) a soldier new to Los Angeles is driving a woman home, and she says "Watch for the Boulevard Stops."

I think she was referring to the streetcar stops in the center of major streets. They were protected only by a low metal flange set in the road. Even if no one was at a stop, one wouldn't want to hit one of the flanges at speed.