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I don't think Thom was suggesting there was any basis to "demand" a four story mixed-use building, just stating that such would be the appropriate use of the site. And he is right.

LCBO has started to move into podiums of mixed-use buildings (if I recall correctly, Central was actually the first such location in the province. Now the LCBO is a proponent of a tower on their site at King & Spadina in Toronto). If the LCBO can see the logic in leveraging real estate, why couldn't the Beer Store, which is a private (albeit monopolized) corporation?

BTW, congratulations to you Thom on the Centretown Presidency and good job on deciding to challenge Diane Holmes. I think you're the right man for the job.
Hope they do a better job with others than they did with the LCBO in the Central apartment. I was in it last week and thought it was crappy.
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Hope they do a better job with others than they did with the LCBO in the Central apartment. I was in it last week and thought it was crappy.
Ha, there's no accounting for taste! I've actually been quite pleased with that LCBO on my 2 or 3 visits (found some nice <$20 French wines in Vintages); especially compared to the pitiful (but convenient) 240 Sparks outlet that it replaces.
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Hope they do a better job with others than they did with the LCBO in the Central apartment. I was in it last week and thought it was crappy.
Agree with McC, I haven't been yet, but friends who live nearby rave about it.
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I was in Toronto this weekend doing some research on high-rise buildings and stumbled on the Burano (Bay/Grosvenor)... oh my god, what a podium/lobby! Check it out: http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2012/11/how-...-his-monumental-work-burano-condominiums

Oh how I would love to see something like that here
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Agree with McC, I haven't been yet, but friends who live nearby rave about it.
The beer selection isn't great, but it's wine you are after, I think it's a good store.
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I was in Toronto this weekend doing some research on high-rise buildings and stumbled on the Burano (Bay/Grosvenor)... oh my god, what a podium/lobby! Check it out: http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2012/11/how-...-his-monumental-work-burano-condominiums

Oh how I would love to see something like that here
I liked that building when I went down to visit last. I have a few more photos I took.


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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 1:14 AM
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Critics lament ‘bland, Soviet’ coverings

Could some creative hoardings spruce up parliamentary precinct during construction?

By Don Butler, OTTAWA CITIZEN January 23, 2014 7:01 PM


OTTAWA — Kay Stanley was walking on Parliament Hill just before Christmas when she spotted a large group of Chinese tourists snapping pictures of the Centre Block.

“I almost spoke up and pleaded with them to stay focused to the north,” Stanley, a member of the National Capital Commission’s board of directors, said this week. “Don’t turn to the south or in any other direction, because it wouldn’t be a very attractive picture.”

Parliament Hill and Wellington Street resemble a vast construction zone these days, as Public Works and Government Services Canada proceeds with an ambitious program to preserve and restore the Parliament Buildings and other prominent structures in the parliamentary precinct.

On the block of Wellington Street between Bank and O’Connor streets alone, work is underway at the National Press Building, the Sir John A. Macdonald Building and the Wellington Building, in some cases for years. On the Hill, rehabilitation work is proceeding at Parliament’s West Block.

As well, work began this month on a major renovation of the Bank of Canada headquarters at 234 Wellington St. and repairs to the National War Memorial.

The work is certainly necessary. But what dismays Stanley was what prominent Ottawa architect Barry Padolsky calls the “bland, Soviet” appearance of the wooden hoardings surrounding the structures.

While the hoardings are temporary, they’re with us for years, Padolsky pointed out. “We need to always pay attention to the quality of our public realm at all times.”

Stanley, who raised her concerns at this week’s public meeting of the NCC board of directors, said many people are impressed by the eye-catching “iceberg” enveloping the National Gallery of Canada’s Great Hall as part of its window replacement project.

The monumental art work by Greenlandic artist Inuk Silis Høegh has a surface area of more than 4,600 metres. It was part of the gallery’s summer exhibition of indigenous art, so there was no additional cost to deploy it as an eye-catching cover for the work in the Great Hall.

After admiring the gallery’s solution, Stanley said she “looked longingly at Wellington Street and thought, ‘Why can’t we do something other than green canvas or whatever to ensure that there’s a more attractive façade for all of this construction?’”

Experts say plenty of creative things are done in cities around the world. When buildings in London and Paris are renovated, Padolsky said, “You see some great artwork or great marketing ideas. We certainly deserve to do the same thing here.

“It’s an opportunity for public art, for doing something daring, because it’s temporary,” said Padolsky, whose firm designed hoardings adorned with prehistoric animals and giant bugs when it restored exterior stonework at the Canadian Museum of Nature in the 1990s.

Cost shouldn’t be a deterrent, he said. “The cost of temporary graphics is not significant at all. It’s lack of will, really.”

David Leinster, a Toronto landscape architect who serves on Ottawa’s urban design review panel, said he saw an “amazing” treatment of a hoarding around a historic building in Havana last year.

“The hoarding was designed to exactly align with a part of the building you couldn’t see,” he said. “When you stood back and looked at the building, you could see the whole thing, right down to the ground. It was a pretty creative way of dealing with an important public space.”

The NCC has standards for hoardings along Confederation Boulevard, which includes Wellington Street. The minimum standard calls for grey and green wood panelling cut to mimic the Gothic architecture of the Parliament Buildings.

Fred Gaspar, the NCC’s acting vice-president, said the commission works with Public Works and other proponents to encourage them to do as much as possible to make hoardings attractive, though “We always try to be mindful of the project realities” such as budgets and time frames.

As a result of concerns raised by Stanley and others, Gaspar said the NCC is reviewing its hoarding guidelines, last updated in 2005. “We’re going to be working with our partners to see what they can do to kick it up a notch,” he said.

NCC chair Russ Mills pointed out that the next big Public Works project is the $190-million makeover of the Government Conference Centre on Confederation Square into a temporary home for the Senate during the Centre Block renovations. “Perhaps that could be used as a model for how to do this,” he suggested.

In an email, Public Works said its primary focus when erecting hoardings “is to ensure a safe and secure environment for construction workers and the public.”

The use of printed tarpaulins to enclose scaffolding would have increased costs, it said. “A case-by-case analysis is always done on the choice of hoarding, with safety and security being the key considerations, and will be done on future construction sites.”

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In an email, Public Works said its primary focus when erecting hoardings “is to ensure a safe and secure environment for construction workers and the public.”

The use of printed tarpaulins to enclose scaffolding would have increased costs, it said. “A case-by-case analysis is always done on the choice of hoarding, with safety and security being the key considerations, and will be done on future construction sites.”

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Good old Public Works. No sense of vision, pride and excellence whatsoever.
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Sounds a lot like the NCC, only public works actually does work - of the hands-on, repairing stuff variety.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2014, 2:53 PM
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Sounds a lot like the NCC, only public works actually does work - of the hands-on, repairing stuff variety.
Work will get done... painfully slowly... but eventually, it'll get done.

But first PWGSC had to source the work to as many government friendly firms as possible. It takes time to rig contracts and to cover them up.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2014, 12:42 AM
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Developers seek millions in remediation grants

By Carys Mills, Ottawa Citizen January 29, 2014 5:01 PM


OTTAWA — Taxpayers are being asked to hand over millions of dollars to help companies build at the Rideau Centre and ByWard Market.

The grant applications, which go to the city’s finance committee next Tuesday, are for “brownfield” developments. By helping fund cleanups of these contaminated or deteriorated properties, the city says it ends up getting a boost in property taxes.

One of three applications is for Claridge Homes’ controversial hotel development on Dalhousie Street.

Claridge has applied for a grant that wouldn’t exceed about $1.85 million over a decade.

“The city gets so far ahead on these programs,” Claridge vice-president Neil Malhotra said. “They’re big wins, as far as I can tell, from a city property tax standpoint.”

The report going to committee states the money would be recovered within a year, since new annual tax growth from the glassy hotel would amount to more than $2 million.

Malhotra said the company anticipated some contamination on the site, and city grant money would deal with residue from petroleum-based products, asbestos and heavy metals. There was formerly a gas station there, he said.

“It’s sort of an accumulation of mid-sized problems and it adds up to a large number in the end,” Malhotra said. “But it’s the difference between making the project work and not work.”

The actual cleanup-associated costs eligible for the grant are $3.7 million, according to the report. But the city’s policy is to cap the grant, paid through tax rebates and exemption from some development charges, at half the cost.

A second grant application is from Cadillac Fairview, the owner of the Rideau Centre, which did not reply to requests for comment.

Cadillac Fairview is asking for a grant that wouldn’t exceed about $3.2 million over 10 years for dealing with environmental impacts as it expands the mall and parking, where there’s now a lot and the remains of the demolished Ogilvie Building.

The cost would be recovered within two years with new annual tax growth of more than $2.8 million, according to the city report.

Polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons, the type of emissions left from wood heating and aluminum smelters, were found at that site. So was petroleum residue, metals and volatile organic compounds, the report states.

The last grant application, for $445,776 or less over a decade, is for 199 Slater St.

Heavy metals and polynuclear hydrocarbons were found on the site, a parking lot being turned into a 22-storey boutique hotel and residential building. The report states taxes would cover the grant within a year.

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The TD Bank has bought into the Lansdowne project big time and will close its Old Ottawa South branch in the process.

“Changes to the Bank St. branch are likely to be very late this year or in 2015,” a TD manager of corporate and public affairs told the OSCAR. “When firm details are available we will inform our customers directly.”

Many bank clients were stunned by the news. “The very reason I moved from my credit union was because of the location and hours at this branch,” said Sandy Stone on her way out of the bank. “It's close to me and I really like the staff.”

Resident Doug Small put it this way: “I've had 42 1/2 years of neighbourhood banking and now it's been swallowed up by a corporate monolith.”

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All businesses in Old Ottawa South will be affected because of the change in foot traffic, says Sami Abikhalil, whose Modern Hair Styling has been near the bank for 30 years.

“This community supported that bank for 50 years and I'm surprised that no one in OOS is willing to show concern and try to stop them.”

Besides a TD Bank at Lansdowne, The Ottawa Citizen reported the bank paid a seven-figure sum for naming rights and partnership in the stadium, arena and concert venues. They are to be re-named “TD Place”. A huge bank logo will be featured on the back of the stadium, facing the Canal. The Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group put it this way: “TD will have significant branding throughout the complex.”

Where to Go?

The manager of the Quickie store, John Stencill, says he'll miss the branch “because that's where we get our coins.”

“A lot of my customers are not happy, but I understand the bank's perspective, they can't keep both branches.”

John can't imagine OOS TD clients going further downtown to use a Lansdowne branch. Nor does Sami Abikhalil see the locals going to Lansdowne. “We had a community bank, and Billings Bridge TD isn't that, but people are more likely to go to Billings for accessibility and free parking.”
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2014, 2:55 AM
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I can understand the inconvenience. It's not that close to walk for many people, so they'll either be forced to walk a distance, drive or take the bus.

At the same time, this should open up more room for a store or restaurant to come onto this strip and bring something else to the area. Banks are "dead space" on main commercial strips, and are better being on side streets or above the street. I don't remember where I read this, but there was an actual explanation why banks aren't good to have there.

It makes me think about the waste of space the RBC on Wellington or TD Bank on Holland
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I can understand the inconvenience. It's not that close to walk for many people, so they'll either be forced to walk a distance, drive or take the bus.

At the same time, this should open up more room for a store or restaurant to come onto this strip and bring something else to the area. Banks are "dead space" on main commercial strips, and are better being on side streets or above the street. I don't remember where I read this, but there was an actual explanation why banks aren't good to have there.

It makes me think about the waste of space the RBC on Wellington or TD Bank on Holland
Agreed. If that was my local bank, I'd likely side with these people as well. It is a shame, but like that one individual said, I understand why the bank is closing - you really can't have two banks that close in proximity. It's still a bit of a hike though, especially in cold winters.

A restaurant could be good there, as you mentioned (I wonder if Bekta is eyeing this joint? Gezillig #2, maybe? )

* On a side note, I drove by this area a couple of weeks ago and I think the futon store next to it may have been empty...
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Agreed. If that was my local bank, I'd likely side with these people as well. It is a shame, but like that one individual said, I understand why the bank is closing - you really can't have two banks that close in proximity. It's still a bit of a hike though, especially in cold winters.

A restaurant could be good there, as you mentioned (I wonder if Bekta is eyeing this joint? Gezillig #2, maybe? )

* On a side note, I drove by this area a couple of weeks ago and I think the futon store next to it may have been empty...
Speaking of banks, is there a TD on Bank Street at all? I know there's a ScotiaBank on Gloucester, but are there any others?

Haha, I'd hope for something more gastronomic like Atelier (I haven't heard positive things about Bekta's food).

Uh-oh! I hope that doesn't mean that Old Ottawa South isn't doing so well for itself. Just looking at this area on Google maps makes me want to explore it a bit.
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Speaking of banks, is there a TD on Bank Street at all? I know there's a ScotiaBank on Gloucester, but are there any others?

Haha, I'd hope for something more gastronomic like Atelier (I haven't heard positive things about Bekta's food).

Uh-oh! I hope that doesn't mean that Old Ottawa South isn't doing so well for itself. Just looking at this area on Google maps makes me want to explore it a bit.
I understand the concern, losing a neighbourhood bank in the heart of the neighbourhood, but this isn't exactly a tragedy. The new branch will be what, seven blocks away?

OOS is a bit of an odd retail strip. It never seemed to have all of the essentials like the Glebe, and lots of the stores that do come don't seem to last very long. In particular, that building that had the video store being boarded up for five years has left a huge hole in the shopping strip.

At least Lansdowne should be a boon for the restaurants and businesses at the north end of the strip.

I just wish that TD would do something with their Pretoria Branch. It's in such a prime location, and they are content to go with a suburban strip mall bank.
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Resident Doug Small put it this way: “I've had 42 1/2 years of neighbourhood banking and now it's been swallowed up by a corporate monolith.”
Hmm. When his TD Bank was close by, it was a quiet neighbourhood institution.

Now that it's several more blocks away at (gasp!) Lansdowne, his money is now going into a corporate monolith.

Why do so many people think like this? My CIBC branch is tiny, but I'm under no delusion that it isn't anything other than a corporate giant that makes huge profits off of giving me shitty service and high fees.

Must be my reality-tinted glasses.
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Barrier's have gone up around the Murray/Cumberland montrosity! I can't remember what the plan is here, do we know?

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Barrier's have gone up around the Murray/Cumberland montrosity! I can't remember what the plan is here, do we know?
I believe the barriers are there for safety reason because the building has been deemed structurally unsound and is prone to a possible collapse.

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