Metro Vancouver Transit Discussion - Page 188

SFUVancouver · #**3741** Posted **Aug 28, 2009, 9:28 PM**

To really confuse things I noticed at Waterfront Station that the inbound (to Waterfront) SkyTrain Classic platform is called "Platform 1". Presumably the outbound platform (to King George and VCC-Clark) will be "Platform 2".

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Originally Posted by BCPhil

Something about that ad on the bus makes me feel like I should kick a soccer ball at it or body check it. Is it actually animated or is it just a bright "look at me" gimmick?

It is animated. It's a tv.

officedweller · #**3742** Posted **Aug 28, 2009, 10:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

To really confuse things I noticed at Waterfront Station that the inbound (to Waterfront) SkyTrain Classic platform is called "Platform 1". Presumably the outbound platform (to King George and VCC-Clark) will be "Platform 2".

Probably because future platforms will be to the north of WCE.
I guess WCE will be Platforms 3 and 4?

Overground · #**3743** Posted **Aug 28, 2009, 10:31 PM**

They've got it ass backwards at Commercial. Traditionally, railway platforms numbered 1 and odd-numbers are for inbound trains. They got Platform 3 right on the Broadway stn side but screwed up 1 & 2. Commercial should have Platform 1 on the southside/inbound instead. This would then jive with Waterfront Stn having Platform 1 inbound and 2 outbound, then everything is consistent and properly done.

DKaz · #**3744** Posted **Aug 28, 2009, 10:50 PM**

But when the Millennium Line gets extended down to UBC or at least Arbutus and gets segregrated from the Expo Line, UBC/Arbutus will be the new inbound direction no?

officedweller · #**3745** Posted **Aug 29, 2009, 12:18 AM**

Ultimately, I would consider the platform towards VCC-Clark as "inbound".

cabotp · #**3746** Posted **Aug 29, 2009, 5:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by Overground

They've got it ass backwards at Commercial. Traditionally, railway platforms numbered 1 and odd-numbers are for inbound trains. They got Platform 3 right on the Broadway stn side but screwed up 1 & 2. Commercial should have Platform 1 on the southside/inbound instead. This would then jive with Waterfront Stn having Platform 1 inbound and 2 outbound, then everything is consistent and properly done.

Actually they have it correct. Best way would be to imagine if the M-line ended at Sapperton and never connected with the E-Line. So the inbound train heading toward VCC-Clark and in the future possibly UBC. Would be the Odd number in this case 1. And the outbound train going to sapperton would be Even 2. The only difference is that the M-line just happens to be connected up with the E-line and you don't have to get off of it. Unless of course you are heading over to Surrey.

Dave2 · #**3747** Posted **Aug 29, 2009, 6:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

It's official, Expo Line gets platform 3 & 4.

A few thoughts (apologies if I'm duplicating)

"Vancouver" is stupid.... You're IN Vancouver at this station, right in the middle. "Downtown Vancouver" would be better.

There should be mention of "Waterfront" and "King George"

The sign should be Expo Line blue, although otoh both lines pass through Platform 3 & 4, so perhaps the colour should be blue and yellow stripes

Millennium2002 · #**3748** Posted **Aug 29, 2009, 7:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dave2

A few thoughts (apologies if I'm duplicating)... (see above for rest of text)

I concur. Those signs should have the terminus listed, as well as any CITY that the line passes by and not the city that one is already in.

deasine · #**3749** Posted **Aug 29, 2009, 7:17 AM**

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The 8 is also planned to use articulated trolleys starting in December, and not having to go as deep into the downtown core will improve its reliability.

Source: Buzzer Blog

Gordon · #**3750** Posted **Aug 29, 2009, 3:24 PM**

Starting Sep 7th the #8 route will terminate @ Cordova & Seuymour

here's another Comparison of Metro Capacities New York Subway 5.5 million \day

fever · #**3751** Posted **Aug 30, 2009, 5:32 PM**

Is there a system map in the main hall at Waterfront?

I noticed that tourists were getting lost trying to get on the Expo line and instead going to the Canada line. The Canada line entrance is, of course, more visible from the main hall than the Expo line entrance. There's a gold station directory sign when you walk in the front doors. Tourists gravitate toward it, then realize it contains no useful information. There should be a large system map in its place, or near that spot.

deasine · #**3752** Posted **Aug 30, 2009, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by fever

Is there a system map in the main hall at Waterfront?

I noticed that tourists were getting lost trying to get on the Expo line and instead going to the Canada line. The Canada line entrance is, of course, more visible from the main hall than the Expo line entrance. There's a gold station directory sign when you walk in the front doors. Tourists gravitate toward it, then realize it contains no useful information. There should be a large system map in its place, or near that spot.

There are, but they aren't very visible.

Kwik-E-Mart · #**3753** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 7:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

There are, but they aren't very visible.

The only one that is quasi-visible is the map located after passing by the fare machines to the right (above the tourist pamphlets) when facing the Seabus terminal.

metroXpress · #**3754** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 4:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

There are, but they aren't very visible.

It's the one you posted the other day, right?

deasine · #**3755** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 5:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Allen

It's the one you posted the other day, right?

I don't think I took a picture of that one. It's right by the TVMs on the Jugo Juice wall.

CLC · #**3756** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 10:26 PM**

Today is the 7th anniversary of M-Line opening. Does anyone know about the official ridership figure for each previous year? I'm just interested to see about how the ridership grows...

fever · #**3757** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 1:35 AM**

Most subway stations with multiple platforms have a shared room with TVMs and maps. This setup makes sense for new users: the station entrance leads to a room with maps and TVMs, and from here signs indicate which platform to use and where each line ends.

At Waterfront, the station entrance (i.e. the front door) leads to two separate entrances before the user encounters the maps or station lists that tell them which line to go to. The usual order is reversed. First, if the user only knows the station he's going to he has to guess which line to go to. Or worse, he may not realize there are two separate entrances. Also, if he does see the Canada line to the left sign above the Expo line/WCE/Seabus entrance, he may think he's going to the Canada line but end up on the Expo line. To be more legible, there have to be signs and maps in the Main Hall because that's where people have to choose a direction.

deasine · #**3758** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 12:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by fever

At Waterfront, the station entrance (i.e. the front door) leads to two separate entrances before the user encounters the maps or station lists that tell them which line to go to. The usual order is reversed. First, if the user only knows the station he's going to he has to guess which line to go to. Or worse, he may not realize there are two separate entrances. Also, if he does see the Canada line to the left sign above the Expo line/WCE/Seabus entrance, he may think he's going to the Canada line but end up on the Expo line. To be more legible, there have to be signs and maps in the Main Hall because that's where people have to choose a direction.

Well there are signs above right before the TVMs. The only issue is that it doesn't stand out as well. Thankfully at least, there are plans to improve the Waterfront hub, though that's not coming for a little while now.

twoNeurons · #**3759** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 2:54 PM**

Funny story. Got on the Expo line at Granville and a man and two kids got on. However, a woman and a girl just missed the doors. She (presumably) was his wife. It was a scene out of a movie, with him having an angry Swiss German face and trying to saying something through the doors which I'd roughly was along the lines of "What are you doing! How could you miss the train!" (in German)

The two kids were more intent on looking out the front window of the train. I guess everyone knew where they were going because they didn't get off at the next station but kept riding it, but seeing things like that are why it's fun to ride public transit.

An yeah, whatever happened to ladies first?

metroXpress · #**3760** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 3:30 PM**

^ oh...funny.

Similar story at the Canada Line YVR stn, but this time the man's wife got in the train first and she was waving at her husband. He didn't notice her and the doors were closing. So what she had to do is hold the doors open with the luggages. (I hope that doesn't do much damage to the trains) He still didn't take notice of her and I couldn't help but walk over and tell him that your wife is in the train waiting to go...

Of course, nothing happened to the door she held open, but on the other end of the train...one door wouldn't close and the lights were on. The train was there....for a minute or two with one door open, didn't depart the station. I quickly told the staff and they reset the doors....

All set now and ready to depart....

(no wonder there are always delays for YVR bound trains...)

STOP HOLDING THE DOORS OPEN PEOPLE!