Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed

[racc]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Well they didn't necessary say heavy rail station, they said railway station, and knowing the govt that could easily mean skytrain/WCE station at Waterfront.

Some communications intern just got confused, I suspect it is "revitalizing Union Station in Toronto" that they are talking about not a railway station in Vancouver.

[SpongeG]

most of the people coming on the line already are the evergreen riders already

most of the passengers come from the bus

those going downtown will already be using the west coast express

[raggedy13]

I'm glad the Evergreen Line is likely to get underway soon. I'll keep my fingers crossed that jlousa's reported rumours are right about it starting this year.

[Mac Write]

Why not turn VCC-Clark into a major transfer point for Evergreen Line passengers. run the 84 every 6-8 minutes. Would that help leviate the Commerical Drive traffic?

[Mininari]

That could be a good reason for the UBC line to be fast-tracked, or at least the section from VCC to the Canada Line. That way people have two direct transfer options to complete their trip into downtown.

[DKaz]

So funding has been planned but not confirmed yet?

[djmk]

Originally Posted by DKaz

So funding has been planned but not confirmed yet?

i heard the morning that ignatieff passed the budget and i also heard the mayor of port moody saying it will take 2 years to get the funding from the feds.

now, i do not know if they can start work prior to receiving the full funding...

[nname]

Originally Posted by djmk

and i also heard the mayor of port moody saying

I saw this and stopped reading the rest of the sentence

[Stingray2004]

And the latest:

Climb aboard the Evergreen Line
PORT MOODY/CKNW(AM980)

1/28/2009

Federal money is on the way for the Evergreen transit line, but we still don't know how much. Port Moody Conservative MP James Moore says the funding will be delivered within two years.

Moore says Ottawa will be negotiating with the BC Government on how much to pay.

So when will construction begin? "Very soon. I've already had conversations with Kevin Falcon, who's the Provincial Transport Minister on this project. The Evergreen Line will have the full Federal support ahead of schedule and the project will be built. And this is a huge victory for British Columbia, a huge victory for the Evergreen Skytrain extension."

The project is slated to cost 1.4 billion dollars.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by Rusty Gull

Well, a second run has been in the works for ages, and should have been ready by now. However, it is being held up by demands from the Canadian Border Services Agency. Basically, the increased rail traffic from the US represents an increased workload for them.

Maybe some of the funding for the Via Station in Vancouver will address this? It's really hard to say.

One can hope. The CBSA demands are silly. Another train will benefit Canadians going to Seattle more than Seattlites going to Vancouver. Probably the Olympics is what pushed Amtrak to want to do this route. It would be a shame if it didn't go through until after the Olympics. I would love to see a success story made of that train. This is one of the proposed high-speed corridors, and a great opportunity for Canada and the US to work together.

edit: If a true high-speed run actually was built between Vancouver and Portland, you could get to Portland by Train in about 2 - 2.5 hours (~500km). California HSR will be 2:17 (according to their site) from Sacramento to LA. It's just that regular Amtrak run from Portland to Sacramento that takes 4 hours that kills ya.

[mr.x]

If only the Liberals and the feds had this kind of cooperation with the Canada Line...


Speaking of which, Trasolini sure does sound like a broken record.

[cornholio]

I hope the Canada line tunnel boring machine is still around.
Get it working on the Evergreen line tunnel sometime in the summer since that part of the project will take the most time to finish.
After their done that it could have enough life left to be able to begin work on the Millennium extension from Finning to Main st and the rest can be cut and cover.

This could save alot of money as they can have one team, one company, and one machine working for the next 5 years on two more lines.

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Besides that park isn't sketchy, it's acutally quite nice the only time I can remember it being sketchy was during that summer of tent cities.

I don't mind walking through the park but there are always people shooting up there or just bumming around.
It's not quite full of them, and so they can be easily circumnavigated.
Nevertheless, their presence is always apparent.

[dreambrother808]

Originally Posted by djmk

now, i do not know if they can start work prior to receiving the full funding...

perhaps work could start based upon the province's and translink's share? or does within 2 years possibly mean 2 years at the latest and more likely sometime earlier?

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by cornholio

I hope the Canada line tunnel boring machine is still around.
Get it working on the Evergreen line tunnel sometime in the summer since that part of the project will take the most time to finish.
After their done that it could have enough life left to be able to begin work on the Millennium extension from Finning to Main st and the rest can be cut and cover.

This could save alot of money as they can have one team, one company, and one machine working for the next 5 years on two more lines.

No, Sweet Leilani was shipped off long, long ago to the Gulags.

It would probably be cheaper to build a new boring machine that fits the minimum dimensions of a SkyTrain tunnel. The Canada Line tunnels are much larger to accommodate the wider and taller trains....we'd need to dig more, truck more dirt away, and have more concrete for the Evergreen if we were to use Leilani.

[raggedy13]

Originally Posted by cornholio

I hope the Canada line tunnel boring machine is still around.

EDIT: Nevermind, mr.x2 beat me to it.

[Stingray2004]

Speaking of tbm's, Richmond's Ebco Group built a few, AFAIK, as far back as the 1980's.

Some of the firm's major successes through the early years included constructing a 16-foot-diameter Robbins tunnel-boring machine as well as the TRIUMF cyclotron.

The $1.2 million, 90-foot long tunnel borer was used to bore the maintenance tunnel under the English Channel from France to England.

http://www.manufacturing-today.com/content/view/393/

[Metro-One]

If construction were to start this year isn't a 2014 completion date a little long? I was thinking more around 2013 (2012 would be a little fast) simply because this line is 7-8 km shorter than the Canada Line, also a good portion is at grade and this line involves less tunneling.

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

If construction were to start this year isn't a 2014 completion date a little long? I was thinking more around 2013 (2012 would be a little fast) simply because this line is 7-8 km shorter than the Canada Line, also a good portion is at grade and this line involves less tunneling.

Well, it really does depend on what type of construction work. There's a huge difference between preliminary construction and the actual construction.

One would think that public consultation and a design process is still needed.

[twoNeurons]

Underpromise. Overdeliver. Also, the Canada Line is in a wider corridor and was under a strict timeline (No major construction during the Olympics).