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Old Posted Jul 10, 2026, 10:21 AM
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Commercial retail near a hospital tends to service the hospital and isn't likely to be very popular beyond the hospital needs. So a big pharmacy, maybe a few quick dining options and/or simple banks.

But don't expect a Walmart or Canadian Tire or Sobeys to move in as the retailer under a parking structure.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2026, 10:26 AM
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I only raised those concerns because at least one staff suggested "multiple" retails to service the neighborhood as well
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2026, 12:08 PM
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I wasn't thinking big box retail, but pharmacy, convenience, coffee, maybe medical-adjacent businesses. I'd much rather look at that out my living room window than a monolithic parking garage (which could easily be at street level on the west/hospital-facing side)
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2026, 1:12 PM
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I first started working at the Moncton Hospital in 1989. I am newly retired.

For almost the entire time that I have worked there, people have groused and complained about the horrible parking situation, and over the course of nearly 40 years, not a damned thing has been done.

The reasons are multifactorial. A plan had been developed in the 1990s to build a parking garage on the current patient parking lot across from the main hospital entrance, but, the residents on Edgett Avenue were most displeased by the loss of their scenic view over the cracked asphalt of the parking lot and convinced the city to put the kibosh to any plans. On top of this, the provincial government is most disinclined to make the appropriate investment to build a parking structure because if they did so, every other major hospital in the province would expect similar treatment. The result of this of course is massive bureaucratic inertia.

This of course does not deny the need for such a structure, but, if one were ever to be built, it would require out-of-the-box thinking.

The obvious solution would be for the province to lease the land for the parking garage to a private entity to allow for construction to proceed. To prevent the howls of outrage from the other hospitals in the province, there would have to be no government funding of this project. The costs would be recovered by the private entity through parking fees, and through rents charged to anyone leasing space in the commercial podium.

Of course, rezoning would be required, and there may still be some irate citizenry on Edgett to oppose the project. The planning committee and city council would have to ignore these NIMBYs for the public good and allow the rezoning to proceed.

The parking garage would have to be at least three level on top of the commercial podium. A pedway connecting to the main hospital entrance would be mandatory (this would maintain traffic flow on MacBeath, and would be most appreciated by pedestrians in the wintertime and during inclement weather).

The idea of commercial services in the podium should not be a surprise. There have always been commercial services at the Moncton Hospital. The lobby historically has had multiple tenants, including Tim Horton's, the Nurses Alumni Cafe, a gift shop, a florist and even a dress shop. There used to be a Royal Bank branch on the ground level of the Professional Arts Building.

The lobby is getting a refresh after being moribund since the pandemic. The main reason why this has taken so long is intransigence by union activists over private food services in the hospital threatening the jobs of the hospital cafeteria workers (the Tim Horton's was able to escape the union ire because it was actually operated by the nurses alumni). Finally, the impass has been broken, and the lobby will soon feature a Second Cup and a Freshii. Freshii was chosen because it is essentially a healthy vegetarian restaurant, satisfying concerns of the medical staff association, the nurses union and the dieticians. Carnivores at the hospital are less pleased.

As you can see, political concerns over the tenancy of the retail podium of a parking structure could be avoided by making the parking structure a private entity. This could allow competing fast food establishments to set up shop (McDonad's, Tim Horton's etc.). A pharmacy is an obvious choice, If the parking structure were a private entity, this would eliminate any concerns that the hospital or the province were displaying any type of favouritism. As we had previously in the hospital lobby, a florist or a gift shop woulg also be easy choices for the podium. I could easily see 6-8 CRUs in the podium filling up quickly. It should be remembered that a large hospital is almost like a small town. There are nearly 3000 hospital employees, and easily just as many patients and visitors to the hospital every day. This is more than enough people to support the services expected by any small town in the province.

So, for this to be successful, this is what will be required.

- a privately owned and operated parking structure with a commercial podium across from the main entrance to the hospital.
- complete absence of any provincial funding for this project.
- cost recovery entirely through parking fees and commercial rents.
- an above grade walkway leading from the parking structure to the hospital lobby.
- street facing CRUs to house services that would be used by hospital employees and visitors.
- complete buy-in by the city to prevent NIMBYs from blocking this proposal.

A private entity is mandatory to prevent interference and complaints by other hospitals in the province, and also to foil any interference by unions and professional organizations. This could be done. There is a narrow path that would allow for successful implementation.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2026, 1:40 PM
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I wasn't thinking big box retail, but pharmacy, convenience, coffee, maybe medical-adjacent businesses. I'd much rather look at that out my living room window than a monolithic parking garage (which could easily be at street level on the west/hospital-facing side)
Just as a side note, parking structures don't need to be "monolithic" or brutish. If you google it, they can be attractive and/or architecturally interesting.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2026, 1:50 PM
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Heritage advocate relieved work finally underway at former rectory at risk of collapse
Court order requires stones to be cataloged so structure can be reassembled later
Shane Magee · CBC News · Posted: Jul 10, 2026 6:00 AM ADT | Last Updated: 4 hours ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-st-bernard-rectory-tower-update-9.7264583



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Work to dismantle part of a historic downtown Moncton building began this week, almost a year after an engineer's report said it's at risk of collapse.

Workers held aloft by a crane could be seen placing tags on the stones of the tower of the St. Bernard’s rectory tower overlooking the corner of Botsford and Queen streets.

A court order requires stones and other components be tagged and catalogued before the tower is removed, so it can be reassembled in the future.
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The 2½-storey Gothic Revival structure by architect René Arthur Frechet was built in 1914 and 1915 and is a designated historic site.

The rectory was sold by the Archdiocese of Moncton in 2019 to a couple who planned to turn it into a boutique hotel. While the interior was gutted, construction wasn’t completed.

The building was sold in 2023 to Ontario-based RAS Can-Ind.

That company's website says it hopes to turn the building into a boutique hotel and restaurant.
So, not as optimistic as I had hoped. They are just numbering the bricks before demolition of the tower. This work was court ordered. There is no word yet on any plans for reconstruction and conversion to a boutique hotel and restaurant.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2026, 2:03 PM
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Another advantage of a parking structure is that most of the parking area is contained/sheltered from the weather.

So instead of trudging through a blowing snowstorm across an asphalt desert, you are within a structure, mostly sheltered from the wind and blowing snow/driving rain for most of your trip from the vehicle to the hospital and back. Considering you're dealing with with people who are probably sick or injured, cutting back their element exposure should be seen as a major boon. (If you park on the top level you're probably a bit more exposed; but only until you reach the stairs/elevator to the lower levels and not the entire expanse).
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2026, 4:55 PM
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Indeed. 375 employees. They shoulda known better. A parking structure should have been built.

Of course, why should we expect better from the city when the province refuses to build a parking structure for the Moncton Hospital (3000 employees), and several thousand other patients and visitors every day. Parking? Who need parking???? It doesn't matter how sick you are, you can just take the bus to the hospital!! Late for work because you can't find parking??? Not the province's problem.
They should just buy the row of houses (10) to the west of the parking lot (Edgett/Connaught to Myers), make it part of the building costs, and put a structure on the top half of the lot for now. Eliminate the NIMBYS by buying their houses. Then turn those houses into employee residences or 'specialty' offices. (or the bottom half from Arden to Myers, either way)
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2026, 3:25 PM
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Franklyn Yards

-Tower 8 is on floor 3
-Tower 9 is on floor 1
-They have now started doing formwork for the foundation on the commercial building.
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2026, 7:20 PM
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45 Lewis St:

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Old Posted Jul 14, 2026, 7:23 PM
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Does anyone know if 65 Gordon St has sold? The for-sale sign is still up, but all the listings online are gone.
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2026, 8:14 PM
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Does anyone know if 65 Gordon St has sold? The for-sale sign is still up, but all the listings online are gone.
No change in ownership on Planet property records.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2026, 6:36 PM
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This just popped up on Facebook. Anyone know antyhing about this?



Nila Family Restaurant.

I have no idea where this would go unless it is moving into the old downtown Starbucks. Casa Latina was supposed to open there, but, construction seems to have stalled again. Perhaps they have had second thoughts and are either moving to a new format, or have sold off the lease.
This restaurant is now open. Let this be exhibit A in why businesses should stop using generative AI. The restaurant looks absolutely nothing like their marketing pictures on social media. I mean it's almost impressive just how little it resembles it. I don't even have an issue with how the restaurant does look but I don't understand this obsession of using AI to try and be something you are not. The photos on social media gives off that of a very upscale and modern vibe but is much closer to a casual sit down place.

Customers are gonna see the difference when they go and that creates a weird vibe right off the bat.

At least they aren't yet using AI slop pictures of food.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2026, 9:01 PM
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I first started working at the Moncton Hospital in 1989. I am newly retired.
I missed this part. Congrats!
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2026, 10:57 PM
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I will also add my congratulations on your retirement! It's nice to be at this stage of life.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2026, 2:27 PM
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Found on the CG Group Facebook page.

Current status of buildings 7,8 & 9 at the Franklin Yards. This is an interesting perspective not previously captured.

Stormwater retention pond on the bottom right. Soccer fields at the Sportsplex complex on the top left. Downtown skyline to the top right.
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