54-60 Bayswater Ave | 21m | 6f | Completed

[phil235]

I second that. I appreciate the detailed response.

My only question would be how you decipher what is the mainstream view on an application. We know that people who are on community associations and who attend public meetings tend to skew to a certain demographic that may be less interested in change. How do you ensure that you aren’t giving too much weight to the views of the loudest voices who have the most availability?

[jleiper]

Legit question, for sure, and there's no easy answer. I started writing an essay but no one wants to hear my philosophy and approach on community engagement. I'll just say, yes, decent councillors know what's being said out there and know well the challenges of public engagement. The open house is not the consultation. It's a tool in the consultation. The consultation happens in the grocery store, at community events, by email, in pop-ups, on social media. If a councillor's only channel into the community is the community association, they've failed to do the more fundamental work of simply being present in their community.

Originally Posted by phil235

I second that. I appreciate the detailed response.

My only question would be how you decipher what is the mainstream view on an application. We know that people who are on community associations and who attend public meetings tend to skew to a certain demographic that may be less interested in change. How do you ensure that you aren’t giving too much weight to the views of the loudest voices who have the most availability?

[Williamoforange]

Originally Posted by jleiper

Legit question, for sure, and there's no easy answer. I started writing an essay but no one wants to hear my philosophy and approach on community engagement. I'll just say, yes, decent councillors know what's being said out there and know well the challenges of public engagement. The open house is not the consultation. It's a tool in the consultation. The consultation happens in the grocery store, at community events, by email, in pop-ups, on social media. If a councillor's only channel into the community is the community association, they've failed to do the more fundamental work of simply being present in their community.

Since you seem to be of the opinion that Councilors should not take any donations from anyone even remotely related to development and you continue to point to supposed informal community consultation of locals.

Would any of this informal consultation be from local on baywater from which you recieved received $2650 or put another way ~13.8% of your donations from.?

Or care to explain the specific reasons you voted against this project?

Note: I don't think that 13% constitutes a conflict of interest but I also don't think a donation buys you a Councilors vote in either direction, but you seem to think that.

[phil235]

Originally Posted by jleiper

Legit question, for sure, and there's no easy answer. I started writing an essay but no one wants to hear my philosophy and approach on community engagement. I'll just say, yes, decent councillors know what's being said out there and know well the challenges of public engagement. The open house is not the consultation. It's a tool in the consultation. The consultation happens in the grocery store, at community events, by email, in pop-ups, on social media. If a councillor's only channel into the community is the community association, they've failed to do the more fundamental work of simply being present in their community.

Thanks for the reply. Glad to see that you are thinking about it. And for the record, I am involved in the CA and recognize that they do a lot of good things. I just find that on development issues, it tends to be a small group who purports to speak for the community, and not always with altruistic intentions.

[rocketphish]

Approved (Feb 15, 2023)

[Spoonsy]

I might be mistaken, was driving down Wellington W, but I think they put up a small crane up for this

[SL123]

Originally Posted by Spoonsy

I might be mistaken, was driving down Wellington W, but I think they put up a small crane up for this

Terrible photo but the crane is indeed up

[Spoonsy]

This one is quietly moving along


https://i.imgur.com/7YQkvWZ.jpeg

[Williamoforange]

Originally Posted by Spoonsy

This one is quietly moving along


https://i.imgur.com/7YQkvWZ.jpeg

Thankfully it is, in spite of Leipers nimbyism.

When he runs for mayor I hope someone goes around informing the thousands of residents that if it was up to him they'd have no home in Ottawa.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Williamoforange

Thankfully it is, in spite of Leipers nimbyism.

When he runs for mayor I hope someone goes around informing the thousands of residents that if it was up to him they'd have no home in Ottawa.

Yeah, approvals of new housing proposals have ground to a halt since Leiper's tenure as Chair of the Planning and Housing Committee. Wait, no, sorry, his Planning and Housing Committee has approved nearly everything that's been proposed since he's been the head.

[zzptichka]

Originally Posted by Williamoforange

Thankfully it is, in spite of Leipers nimbyism.

When he runs for mayor I hope someone goes around informing the thousands of residents that if it was up to him they'd have no home in Ottawa.

"Guys if you vote for this guy he will stall all construction and the homes you bought will double in price. You can't allow that to happen!"

[Williamoforange]

Lmao , yeah yeah Nimby going to NIMBY nothing new.

He's approving because he has to, the city planning department is utterly incompetent and slow.

Also you both seem to have forgotten that he's allowing planning to put forth a new zoning bylaw that doesn't match the official plan (can't wait for the lawsuits on that) and had been the lead during some of the greatest increases in dev charges the city has seen.

So yeah hard to build housing in a slump when government continually increase the cost.

[J.OT13]

Update from Hoggytime on Skyrise.


https://ottawa.skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/general-update-rumour-thread.37271/page-24

[J.OT13]

From Cobalt on RailFans Canada. Looks complete.