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^ the old forum building was surprisingly well done, imo. I know Maple Leaf Gardens did sort of retain a rink, but it sure didn’t feel that special inside… even finding centre ice inside the Loblaw’s. I went to a movie at the former Forum, which was just okay, but walking around the top two floors of the forum and looking at all the Canadiens’ Stanley Cup banners was extremely memorable… and from up top, it really doesn’t feel like a former colosseum or arena.
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^ the old forum building was surprisingly well done, imo. I know Maple Leaf Gardens did sort of retain a rink, but it sure didn’t feel that special inside… even finding centre ice inside the Loblaw’s. I went to a movie at the former Forum, which was just okay, but walking around the top two floors of the forum and looking at all the Canadiens’ Stanley Cup banners was extremely memorable… and from up top, it really doesn’t feel like a former colosseum or arena.
I was underwhelmed by the Forum, it's basically a movie theatre / mall with Dollarama being far too prominent for such a historical building. But them's the breaks I guess. I kinda wish they had some sort of tribute to the Flames who apparently are the only other team to win a cup in the Forum. Crazy to think given the history of that building. Maple Leaf Gardens at least looks the part from the exterior, they still have the signage like there's an event tonight. It's a grocery store now, and it looks like a decent one, but still a shame. At least you guys have your old buildings, the Saddledome is getting demolished in years.

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Glad to hear you enjoyed your trip!

This spring has been exceptionally dirty and the clean-up has been really, really slow. The pothole situation is also worse than I've ever seen it, and this after 26 years of either living in or regularly visiting Montreal...
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So after 4 days in Toronto / Mississauga and 3 days in Montreal, here are my takeaways.

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I love the subway in Montreal too (thought the stations need an update, there's a strong 70's vibe in there), was a block from a station and it was super convenient. Much better experience than Ubers in Toronto.
Enjoyed reading your thoughts - thanks for sharing.

Curious why you wouldn't take the subway in Toronto seeing how you were down the street from College station. You could just tap a debit or credit card - it's very convenient. Traffic is terrible.
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Enjoyed reading your thoughts - thanks for sharing.

Curious why you wouldn't take the subway in Toronto seeing how you were down the street from College station. You could just tap a debit or credit card - it's very convenient. Traffic is terrible.
I was staying in Mississauga, the subway would have been a pain to get to, easier to just Uber. Was only actually in Toronto the last night to be close to Union Station to hop the Via to Montreal. If I stayed in DT Toronto, then I would have used the subway for sure.
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When I was in Montreal in January the potholes were very noticeable as well. I chalked it up to the climate and time of year, and figured that was normal.

I couldn't tell if it was 'dirty' or 'clean' because everything was covered with snow, lol.
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A day trip to Montreal becomes more feasible from Ottawa. The west island REM extension opens this weekend. Nevertheless, we went to Montreal on Tuesday and there was a convenient REM station with free parking close to one of our destinations. So, we hopped the REM to the centre of downtown and enjoyed a few hours in downtown, without dealing with the worst of Montreal traffic. REM is a game changer.
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Some Montreal locals I talked to said the potholes are always a problem, but they had never seen it that bad. Was it a particularly harsh winter with lots of temperature swings?
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I was underwhelmed by the Forum, it's basically a movie theatre / mall with Dollarama being far too prominent for such a historical building. But them's the breaks I guess. I kinda wish they had some sort of tribute to the Flames who apparently are the only other team to win a cup in the Forum. Crazy to think given the history of that building. Maple Leaf Gardens at least looks the part from the exterior, they still have the signage like there's an event tonight. It's a grocery store now, and it looks like a decent one, but still a shame. At least you guys have your old buildings, the Saddledome is getting demolished in years.

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Maybe the Flames can get a little shrine to the 1989 cup in there if they ask really nicely. Maple Leaf Gardens def looks amazing from the outside still, I just think the inside of the Forum was more impressive.

I’m not a Flames fan by any means, but I am a big fan of reverse hyperbolic paraboloids! I think it’s a crying shame such an iconic building and feature if the Calgary skyline is being torn down… especially considering Edmonton kept the Northlands Coliseum open after the Oiler’s built their new arena. Will be sad to see such an iconic building demolished.
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Agreed about the Saddledome, but it's issues are structural and for the cost it would take to correct them, there would be no use for it after Scotia Place opens. The Stampede are thinking of building an outdoor amphitheater there and are using the one on the PNE grounds in Vancouver as a model, so there could be a sort of iconic structure replacing it.

Also, Edmonton is demolishing Northlands starting this summer.
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Technically speaking there's still an active hockey rink in Maple Leaf Gardens too, though it's on the third floor above the Loblaws. Mattamy Athletic Centre which I believe hosts the TMU hockey teams.

Echoing the above it's the worst pothole season I've seen in Toronto as well. This winter was particularly brutal, though it seemed more just cold than wild temperature swings. Lots of ice though so maybe that was a contributing factor.
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I have some relatives in Montreal-Nord, so I mostly spent my time there back in the day, along Boulevard Lacordaire.
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For a first Montreal trip, I’d probably recommend a mix like this:

* Old Port / Old Montreal for the historic buildings, waterfront, patios, and the big wheel ride at night.
* Botanical Garden during the afternoon since it’s really relaxing and beautiful in early July.
* If you have extra time and don’t mind driving about 2 hours, finish with Forest Lumina in the evening. Definitely go after sunset because that’s when the whole experience comes alive with the lights and atmosphere.

That combination gives a really good balance of city vibes, scenery, food, and something unique outside Montreal too.
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The Montreal Forum in its current iteration is beyond embarrassing. Shambolic retailing concept, ugly signage, no respect for heritage,....
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The Montreal Forum in its current iteration is beyond embarrassing. Shambolic retailing concept, ugly signage, no respect for heritage,....
I'd be totally fine if we just redeveloped the site and move on with our lives at this point.
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I'd be totally fine if we just redeveloped the site and move on with our lives at this point.
Probably the best bet, there is nothing historical left of the Forum apart from some memorabilia inside, and a plaque on a new building would serve an equal purpose.
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I knew Montreal had a "Forum" and I have walked by that ugly building a bunch of times but didn't realize what it was.
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For a first Montreal trip, I’d probably recommend a mix like this:

* Old Port / Old Montreal for the historic buildings, waterfront, patios, and the big wheel ride at night.
* Botanical Garden during the afternoon since it’s really relaxing and beautiful in early July.
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Those are definitely on the list for July..I saw an interview with the owners of Joe beef, so we'll have to see. Interesting fellas..I sent my friend a pic of a Chalet Chicken menu offering, and his mouth watered, as did mine!. It's down Sherbrooke street, which is the same street as our motel, but in opposite directions..I may even see how far the chicken place is from the train station, and since we are coming in at noon, that may be a good spot to grab lunch before check in .Thanks all for the recommendations.

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Well, it's now Saturday morning in Sunny Ottawa and we got back from our whirl wind 1.5 day trip Thursday mid afternoon..My friend had to catch his flight back to Windsor yesterday so we just chilled at my place Thursday night and ordered in a couple of Gyros, and listened to tunes.

I'm too lazy to upload and post pics, but man we walked and walked..We really only scratched the surface, and 1.5 days just isn't enough, so we did the "basics". Our motel was the Best Western on Peel and Sherbrooke, and while we did grab a 3 day transit pass, we simply walked up Peel to Saint Catherines on our arrival and right after our check in, which was around 1:00. our first stops were a couple of patios on Peel headed to Saint Catherine, and since my friend wanted a simple Poutine in Montreal, we had one , and it was delish..My friend lives in the Windsor area, so even poutine is considered exotic..My friend is a cigar smoker, so another friend who lives in the Montreal area suggested Stogies on Crescent street, so at around 4:00 we went there and sat on the upper terrace and enjoyed a martini, and my pal had his cigar..it was great vibe, and only an 8 minute walk from our motel.It wasn't quite open when we arrived, so we had a beer first on another upper terrace nearby, and took a picture of the Leonard Cohen muriel which was facing us across the street..My friend who suggested that place was out of town on business and said he would join us next time for a cigar at Stogies..From there we walked back to our motel for a change of clothes, and headed straight back up to Peel and Saint Catherine on foot..We then headed toward Rue Saint Denis on foot, and did a little bit of a patio crawl along the way. Snapping pics along the way of course..For a Tuesday night, Saint Catherine's was pretty busy and lively.Mind you, this is July, but regardless, there were a lot of people out and about..I'm glad we hoofed it, because IMO, that's the only way to experience a city's DT area..By foot, and boots on the ground! Once we hit Saint Denis, we turned left, and found an awesome little Mexican restaurant..My pal said it was the best Mexican he had rivaling the food he had while he was in Mexico himself!..After that, we slowly hoofed it back, but not without hitting a few more establishents along the way..We then found ourselves back in the Crescent street area, and hit Ziggy's pub which is the type of bar I wanted to experience in my opening post. A neighbourhood dive bar! .It was lively, and my friend experienced "drunk chick".A local bar fly type girl who was originally from Amos from what we understood..She sat with us, and spoke french, english, and drunkanese all at the same time..She was little annoying but entertaining too..When we left , my friend picked up her last drink. It was getting late, so we made our way back, where we had a couple of pints that were in the fridge..We turned in around 2:30 A:M

Day 2: We hoofed it up to Reubens where we had to have a sammie..Not only that, but my friend spontaneously bought an 8 lb unsliced brisket to bring back to the Windsor area where he lives..We then hoofed it back to our motel, put the brisket back in the fridge, and once again hoofed it up to Saint Catherine's to hunt down a freezer bag, and ice packs to keep the brisket cold for our train trip back to Ottawa, and his eventual flight back..My pal also needed a belt at this point, because he forgot his, and his shorts were slowly coming down at intervals Ha Ha!, so we stopped at Simmons, where he found a belt, and wouldn't you know it, the Dollarama in the Eaton's mall had both the ice packs and a freezer bag..Fait accompli! We once again hoofed it down Peel and bck to our motel, where he dumped the freezer bag, and ice packs..From there we took the 50 east bus, which took us right to the old Port, where we walked along the water front right up to the ferris wheel, and almost took the boat tour, but decided to explore a little bit of old Montreal on foot of course..We then hit a patio (shocker) in old Montreal, and took the 50 West bus right back to our motel, but immediately walked back to Stogies, only because my pal loved the vibe there..Also the fact that he could have a cigar with his drink..I caved and had one with him..We asked the server about restaurants and she suggested a French restaurant nearby called "Le Pois Penché", and it was fantastic! We sat out on their patio and enjoyed the meal..the rest of the night was spent doing a bit of club surfing in that section, which I believe is called the Square mile..it's probably not one of Montreal's highly rated neighbourhoods, but it was nearby, and lively enough! We ended back up at wouldn't you know it! "Ziggy's" where we capped off day 2.. We actually sat around the bar this time, and made friends with a 70 year old local anglo gentleman who insisted that Boston was Montreal's sister city..I told the gentleman, that this bar kinda sorta reminded me of "Grumpy's, where I went before..His response was real poignant when he stated "This is Grumpy's!".The anglo bar tender was also really friendly, and from what we gathered, he attended Harvard, then Concordia, and whatever other university, but never finished..Regardless, they were real friendly and the vibe in this bar was pretty chill, and no drunk girl this time..I snapped a picture of the Ken Dryden painting on the men's bathroom door, which I meant to do on the first night..We hit another few pubs in that section and turned in for the night..It was again, a 2:00 A:M night!

Day 3: We just slept in, made our way back to Central station by that same 50 East bus, and caught the train bask to Ottawa. Once back at my place, and once the brisket and ice packs were put away safe and sound, my pal and I enjoyed the rest of the day and night, drinking the one Caesar I made up for us, some pints listening to tunes, and playing rod hockey and Fooze ball in my little game room area..It turned out to be another 2:30 A:M night! We were originally going to go down to the Market area in Ottawa to check things out, and do YET another patio crawl, but it was raining Thursday night..It was blessing really, because I personally was spent!..It took a bit to unravel our Montreal experience, because we sure packed in a lot considering we didn't do a lot of the tourist stuff..While at my place, my friend said that he was still processing everything from Montreal...Yesterday, he had to fly back, and since we didn't get the Montreal bagel experience that he wanted, I drove him to Kettleman's and grabbed a few to go..Close enough! His flight was at 2:00 yesterday afternoon, so we ate and I dropped him off at the airport..I then went home, and crashed for a few hours, and did laundry last night!..

To sum it up, my friend loved Montreal (as do I), and wants to come back using Ottawa as a sort of launching pad..He now realizes that as a complete anglo, he can get by pretty easy in Montreal.It was a non issue..The next time we go though, I want to spend more time in old Montreal, as well as visit Mont Royal, and the Plateau nighbourhood, skipping the Square mile altogether..Well maybe a pit stop at stogies on Crescent street (for him).
All in all it was a great trip, and we packed in a solid 2 days in a day and a half, doing mostly the typical non tourist things, like visiting Mont Royal, Bio-dome, etc.!

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I was in Montreal an entire week and still didn't hit everything.

Nice thing about it was, I went in late January and there were very few crowds then.
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