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Old Posted Dec 6, 2024, 3:11 PM
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Has to be challenging to improve the property if your renters barely cover the property tax bill.
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How long has Smart Properties owned the block? I didn't get the sense the there was a big decline in condition in the last few years. The stores have only become vacant recently, so they haven't sat on a deteriorating block very long.

I'm sympathetic to the tenants, but given the importance of investment in that stretch of Bank, I'm not seeing how this delay is in the bigger interest. Status quo is not a real option. The real issue isn't the developer's actions, it's the lack of affordable housing and support at the municipal and provincial levels. I find it a bit rich for Ottawa city councillors to be slagging the developer when the City hasn't exactly been a leader when it comes to innovation in support programs. They are also just delaying things, as there is no real prospect of them being successful in blocking the project. The developer doesn't have a legal obligation to do anything, so it's really just a moral question where the City shares as much or more of the blame.

A related question - I thought Smart Living was having financial troubles. Is that no longer the case?
They can't point to empty storefronts and say this will revitalize the empty storefronts if they are the ones who did not renew the leases. That's where I was going with that.

I wish we had more heritage protection and protection for deeply affordable housing. I'm sure they overpaid for this lot based on development potential, but if the block had protection preventing development, then the price would have been far cheaper based on the economic realities.

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Has to be challenging to improve the property if your renters barely cover the property tax bill.
City should have tax breaks for these kinds of heritage blocks with deeply affordable housing instead of giving tens of millions in tax breaks for Claridge for knocking $300 off a $3,500 a month rent on a new build.
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They can't point to empty storefronts and say this will revitalize the empty storefronts if they are the ones who did not renew the leases. That's where I was going with that.

I wish we had more heritage protection and protection for deeply affordable housing. I'm sure they overpaid for this lot based on development potential, but if the block had protection preventing development, then the price would have been far cheaper based on the economic realities.



City should have tax breaks for these kinds of heritage blocks with deeply affordable housing instead of giving tens of millions in tax breaks for Claridge for knocking $300 off a $3,500 a month rent on a new build.
Just because it's old doesn't make it heritage, and the city cannot and should not be preserved in amber because of someone's personal preference for low-rise residential (aka nimbyism), especially not when it seems that the only places that require this so called heritage protection are the exact same places the city actually allows intensification....

Anyways, smart loving should probably do better in terms of what they're giving the tenants and if the city wanted to help they could literally just say they'll cover the subsidized units on the new build or where the tenants move to.

The city is in this mess because it's constantly blocking, delaying, and generally reducing the supply of be housing compared to demand.
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If any of you are landlords, then you likely know more about this than I've just been reading.

According to the Ontario Landlord and Tenant Board, if a property slated for demolition has 5 or more units, and a tenant is not at the end of a fixed-term lease (in which case it's not an eviction), then the landlord must provide another rental unit acceptable to the tenant or give the tenant an amount equal to 3 months rent.

If I understand correctly, Smart Living is offering each tenant $20,000 to move. That seems mighty generous given that the current tenants are paying $454/mo for a 1BR and $750/mo for a 2BR. It isn't Smart Living's fault that the existing rents are so low. They only bought the properties in August 2022.

https://tribunalsontario.ca/documents/lt...rd%20Can%20End%20a%20Tenancy%20(EN).html
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My issues with demolishing existing/affordable/character housing stock aside, I do find that Smart Living's offer is fair considering what they are allowed to do and the current developer friendly environment.
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Latest offer in Bank Street 'demoviction' saga fails to win over tenants
Smart Living Properties now offering tenants right to come back to new units at controlled rents

Arthur White-Crummey · CBC News
Posted: Dec 11, 2024 4:00 AM EST | Last Updated: 7 hours ago


UPDATE: In its meeting on Wednesday, Dec. 11, Ottawa city council approved the zoning and heritage applications that Smart Living Properties needed to move forward with the development, including the memorandum of understanding committing the company to its offer. Somerset Coun. Ariel Troster and three other councillors dissented in whole or in part.

Tenants are balking at the latest offer from a developer looking to tear down a historic block of buildings in downtown Ottawa.

Smart Living Properties confirmed that it signed a memorandum of understanding with the city agreeing to give 11 tenants living in four buildings on Bank and Nepean streets the right to return to new units at the rents they pay now.

The package comes with a lump sum of $20,000 each plus $500 for moving expenses, and a guarantee of no above-guideline rent increases in the new units for 10 years. Tenants who opt not to return would get $30,000 instead.

Somerset Coun. Ariel Troster's office negotiated the agreement, though she said she still won't vote in favour of the project when it comes to council on Wednesday. She called the case "a classic example" of displacement and gentrification.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/la...saga-fails-to-win-over-tenants-1.7406784
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Cases like this are a good example of why any hopes of a "downtown revitalization" will take decades. Maybe the "task force" can look into why we are letting 11 people, being offered a king's ransom, hold up the redevelopment of almost an entire block of Bank St, stunting the benefit and enjoyment for tens of thousands of other residents.
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Gentrify the hell out of it. 30 grand to move out of the shithole apartment with broken windows. Damn.
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Offering to let tenants move back in at their CURRENT rent, plus cash, is literally the most anyone could ask of the developer. Get a f—ing grip if you can’t support this.
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Bank Street tenants facing 'demoviction' given 3-week eviction notice
Tenants say they are being squeezed out to make way for 'micro-units'

Campbell MacDiarmid · CBC News
Posted: Aug 11, 2025 4:00 AM EDT | Last Updated: August 11


A protracted fight against the "demoviction" of rent-controlled apartments on Bank Street is ending for a group of holdout tenants, some of whom have been ordered to vacate their units by the end of the month.

"We're at the tragic end where we have to scramble to go and find a place to live and make sure that everybody's homed, and there's only three weeks to do so," said Julie Ivanoff, a PhD student in architecture who has lived in her apartment for four years.

After buying the land in 2022, 211-231 Bank Street Holdings and Smart Living Properties have been seeking to demolish the buildings on a block of Bank Street between Nepean and Lisgar streets.

They've wanted to replace several dozen affordable apartments with a nine-storey mixed-use building that includes 263 much smaller and more expensive rental units.

About a dozen tenants have fought to remain in their homes, turning down buyout offers they say come from a landlord they don't trust and are insufficient compensation for their stabilized rent.

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State of the heritage block today. Buildings are empty, but who knows when/if the project will start.

Those who care so strongly about the housing crisis, not sure how removing affordable housing from the market and abandoning a heritage block helps.

They'd better start the project within the next two years to make it somewhat worth it. I don't want another Somerset House.



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Old Posted Jan 9, 2026, 9:02 PM
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Hopefully this does not turn into another Somerset house type thing
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That stretch of Bank St north of Sommerset is really sad and has really gone downhill in the past 5-10 years. Really hoping to see some of these projects move and some more retail open up with the office-to-residential conversions nearby.
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Propert is for sale for 14.5 million.

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/29570...31-bank-street-ottawa-4102-ottawa-centre

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Property being sold on an "as-is, where-is" basis under power of sale provisions. Approved plans for 9-storey, mixed use development with a total of 263 units and 101,509 sf of gross floor area. 178 Nepean & 211-231 Bank St offers an opportunity to develop a mixed use community near major downtown Ottawa landmarks. It is surrounded by complimentary amenities and businesses on busy Bank St. Nestled in a vibrant downtown node, with ample vehicle and pedestrian traffic. Close proximity to both the core business district as well as a short drive from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University. (42539989)
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Interesting. According to this page, Smart Living Properties paid $10,275,000 for these properties.

https://bankblocktenants.ca/slp/


And according to this site, SLP was in financial trouble a year ago at one of it's other properties:

https://leveller.ca/2025/02/smart-living-properties-owes-500000-in-property-taxes/
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Propert is for sale for 14.5 million.

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/29570...31-bank-street-ottawa-4102-ottawa-centre

Listing Description
Property being sold on an "as-is, where-is" basis under power of sale provisions. Approved plans for 9-storey, mixed use development with a total of 263 units and 101,509 sf of gross floor area. 178 Nepean & 211-231 Bank St offers an opportunity to develop a mixed use community near major downtown Ottawa landmarks. It is surrounded by complimentary amenities and businesses on busy Bank St. Nestled in a vibrant downtown node, with ample vehicle and pedestrian traffic. Close proximity to both the core business district as well as a short drive from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University. (42539989)
Great that this happened after they evicted all of the commercial tenants.
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Interesting. According to this page, Smart Living Properties paid $10,275,000 for these properties.

https://bankblocktenants.ca/slp/


And according to this site, SLP was in financial trouble a year ago at one of it's other properties:

https://leveller.ca/2025/02/smart-living-properties-owes-500000-in-property-taxes/
And now they are flopping it for $14.5 million. Market has cooled since they bought it, so in theory, they should get less than what they bought it for.

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Great that this happened after they evicted all of the commercial tenants.
And the tenants. Great move to evict a bunch of people from affordable housing during a housing crisis and then let the buildings rot.

We have ourselves a new Somerset House, but about 10x the size.
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Bank Street property that sparked ‘demoviction’ saga on market for $14.5M

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https://obj.ca/bank-street-property-for-sale/
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'I feel betrayed': What's behind the boarded-up stretch of Bank Street?

The tenants are evicted. The project collapsed. And creditors were pursuing the development group over tens of millions of dollars in loans and other alleged debts.

Nicholas Kohler, Ottawa Citizen
Published Jun 29, 2026


Some weeks ago, a vacant stretch of Bank Street went up for sale for $14.5 million.

It is a storied length of downtown Ottawa — the whole of the eastern side of Bank between Nepean and Lisgar streets.

Wallack’s Art Supplies and Framing occupied the south corner here for 50 years. Artists who worked in the studio spaces above have exhibited at the National Gallery of Canada or are represented in its collection.

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https://ottawacitizen.com/feature/boarded-up-bank-street
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In a housing crisis, we allowed a landlord to evict its tenants from deeply affordable housing for a project that will never see the light of day. Rest assured, the City is looking to buy a golf course to prevent new upper middle class housing near older upper middle class housing after spending (likely) millions on a court case they were never going to win.
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