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Old Posted Apr 28, 2026, 9:35 AM
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Can't win 'em all. By contrast, large parts of Pearson and the TTC look dated (because they are) and cramped.
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2026, 9:39 AM
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Do some travelling (even just in Canada) and you will notice how cheap and underbuilt road infrastructure is in this province.
Where can we find grade separated pedestrian crossings of regular street on/off ramps in Canada?
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2026, 2:06 PM
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I honestly think that crossing is fine. Pedestrian traffic there is minimal. Anyone crossing should make sure vehicles are slowing down and ready to yield. I do the same when I’m on my bike—I yield to cars many times, even when I have the right of way.
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I honestly think that crossing is fine. Pedestrian traffic there is minimal. Anyone crossing should make sure vehicles are slowing down and ready to yield...
I agree. The entrance to an on ramp isn't a freeway, it's really the same status as the city street it connects to. The only improvement I might suggest is a push-to-walk button for the pedestrians with the flashing yellow/orange strobes. I find those to be very effective in making motorists aware of the pedestrians and the nice thing is that they don't prevent motorists from proceeding once the crosswalk has cleared.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2026, 12:20 AM
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Where can we find grade separated pedestrian crossings of regular street on/off ramps in Canada?
I am speaking generally, not about this specific case (which doesn't really bother me).
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Old Posted May 1, 2026, 10:14 PM
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Whats up with the interlocking stone facade under the overpass are they just going to leave those pieces missing?
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Old Posted Jun 15, 2026, 11:53 PM
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Welp, construction contract terminated.
It will be re-tendered as multiple smaller contracts similar to the Surrey Langley Skytrain procurement.

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Since September 2024, the Province has been working with Cross Fraser Partnership under a design and early works agreement to advance project design, technical studies and early construction activities while working toward a potential final construction agreement.

While significant progress has been made on design and current construction work, agreement on the commercial terms for final construction of the tunnel was not reached. As a result, government is exercising a termination option that was built into the process, which will allow the Province to retender this work to seek the best value. The Province will move forward with a procurement strategy designed to strengthen competition and allow for more local contractors.

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The revised procurement strategy will divide the remaining work into several procurement packages, allowing a broader range of qualified firms to bid on portions of the project. The Province successfully used a similar approach on the Surrey Langley SkyTrain project and the Fraser Valley Highway 1 Corridor Improvement Program, where breaking work into multiple contracts helped strengthen competition, improve flexibility and support local companies.
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2026TT0058-000706
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2026, 12:11 AM
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Oh jeez, could this project be more of a fiasco?
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2026, 12:34 AM
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Ouch.
I wonder if the sticking point was liability around the submerged tunnel construction process.

another quote from the press release:

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Work continues while procurement advances

Construction activity on the project will continue while procurement for future phases is underway. Design work, technical investigations, utility co-ordination and other early works completed will continue to support project delivery.

Early construction work started in January 2026, including tree clearing, utility relocations and preparation for the construction of a casting basin. Temporary infrastructure construction is also underway, including the construction of three jetties for the delivery of materials, a trestle bridge onto Deas Island, access roads and retaining walls for the casting basin on Deas Island, creating approximately 200 jobs in 2026 alone.

The Province expects the Environmental Assessment Office to complete its review of the project before the end of 2026. Major construction is still anticipated to begin in 2027.
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I've seen several ads in the papers for the removal of land from Deas Island Park:

More land to be removed from Metro Vancouver's Deas Island in Delta
https://www.delta-optimist.com/local-new...vancouvers-deas-island-in-delta-12327217

Here's the notice:
https://metrovancouver.org/boards/Docume...ate-approval-process-bylaw-1382-2025.pdf


https://metrovancouver.org/boards/Docume...ate-approval-process-bylaw-1382-2025.pdf

Found a rendering of the casting basin:


https://www.delta-optimist.com/local-new...ct-on-deas-island-regional-park-10988165


https://www.highway99tunnel.ca/app/uploads/sites/748/2025/04/FRTP-Tunnel-Brochure-2050429.pdf

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Old Posted Jun 16, 2026, 2:19 AM
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I guess we’ll be waiting for the BC Conservatives to win the next election, toss out the tunnel, bring back the bridge and have another decade’s delay.
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Oh jeez, could this project be more of a fiasco?
Reading between the lines, I surmise that the costs were coming in much higher than the gov was telling the public.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2026, 4:01 AM
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I get so tired of being right.

I knew canceling the bridge was a bad idea.

I knew allowing open drug use was a bad idea.

And I knew the reconciliation efforts would go too far and start achieving the opposite by increasing division and resentment between British Columbians.

Not going to say it all again about what was lost.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2026, 6:27 AM
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“We’ve received good value from the contractor and have made steady progress with the design, thanks to their work. However, this project is critical to British Columbia's future, and we are taking this back to a competitive process to seek the best possible value for taxpayers,” said Mike Farnworth, Minister of Transportation and Transit.
What I'm reading: "We the government continue to be out of money, so like with other projects we're looking for ways to delay projects to reduce spending."
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2026, 4:32 PM
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What I'm reading: "We the government continue to be out of money, so like with other projects we're looking for ways to delay projects to reduce spending."
And with an aging population driving up costs for both the federal and provincial government, while being able to defer payment of their property taxes, we will continue to see governments strapped for cash. Add that to the fact we spent the last 40 years privatizing a substantial amount of what assets our governments had, while racking up debt, and golly gee interesting how we can't afford (at current tax rates) to build ourselves out of the infrastructure debt we've ignored.
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And with an aging population driving up costs for both the federal and provincial government, while being able to defer payment of their property taxes, we will continue to see governments strapped for cash. Add that to the fact we spent the last 40 years privatizing a substantial amount of what assets our governments had, while racking up debt, and golly gee interesting how we can't afford (at current tax rates) to build ourselves out of the infrastructure debt we've ignored.
The Property Tax Deferment program won't cost the provincial government anything any more. Deferred tax now has interest of prime plus two percent. In addition, interest will now compound. That means interest is charged not only on the original deferred taxes but also on accumulated interest from prior years.
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The Property Tax Deferment program won't cost the provincial government anything any more. Deferred tax now has interest of prime plus two percent. In addition, interest will now compound. That means interest is charged not only on the original deferred taxes but also on accumulated interest from prior years.
That's the smallest factor. Healthcare costs have exploded for the Province and OAS is the single largest thing the feds are paying for, both of which are huge drivers for the deficits, yet hardly anyone talks about them. Healthcare alone for BC has shot up way more than we spend on capital projects yearly.
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BC Conservatives say cost could have escalated to $9 billion!

...BC Conservative transportation critic and Langley-Abbotsford MLA Harman Bhangu asserted the announcement contradicts previous assurances from government that the project remained on track.

Bhangu suggested the cost of the project has more than doubled to about $9 billion, compared to the highly-outdated figure first established in 2020/2021. However, sources have told Daily Hive Urbanized the cost could be much higher...


https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/george-massey-tunnel-new-conservatives-delta-city-criticism
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From people I know in the mix, rumors of the cost being north of 10 billion have been making the rounds…

I don’t like to say I told you so… but that 2.6 billion dollar bid for a 10 lane bridge, centre lane rapid bus with free flow direct ramps, new interchanges, and 30km of upgraded highway completed in 2022 sure sounds pretty nice right about now…
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I guess R.I.P. again. Now it’s gonna be another battle between “do we build a replacement tunnel“ or “do we replace the tunnel with a bridge”
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