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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I have a dilly of a mystery location...(an empty lot)


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Does the area look familiar to anyone?

Here's a 1934 aerial view. N Main Street is on the far right and the empty lot shows up as a large white area. I think the building directly to the north is the American Hotel at 361 N Main Street.


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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This would have been an excellent mystery location except there's a map drawn on the back.


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. . and the reverse.



I wonder if Elmira was a nightclub?

The Elmiro Theatre was at 1443 3rd Street in Santa Monica (1940 CD). The link below the image goes to three exterior (this plus two more) and eight interior views of the Elmiro Theatre.


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[ethereal_reality]

I don't remember the Elmiro. Thanks, Hoss







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[Noir_Noir]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

That picture of the Hotel Broadmoor is dated for 1938.

Looking at the 1938 Santa Monica directory, I see two good fits for the locations marked #3 - Breakfast and #4 - Cafeteria on the map.


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Adams & Davies was just where the map indicates and the De Luxe Cafeteria two blocks up 4th St. on the other side.

The person who drew the map says it was 10 miles south to work from there.

Google Maps tells me if you walk exactly 10 miles south from that spot in Santa Monica via Lincoln Blvd. you end up in LAX.


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So an airport worker then.

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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mystery building


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OK, I'll stick my neck out: The big building in the distance is the Hall of Justice building. The It's in the Examiner sign was over the entrance to the Broadway tunnel (pic at: https://www.losangelespast.com/image/53288196460 ), so I think the vantage point must be something like looking east from N. Hill a little south of Temple.

[HossC]

I pretty much concur with you, odinthor. This is actually another part of the same 1934 aerial that I posted yesterday. If it had been taken five years earlier, you'd have seen the Bradbury Mansion under he word "Court".


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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

A strip of black n white negatives:

1960s Los Angeles City Hall Streets Cars VW Schwinn Vtg B&W Photos Negatives Set


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A couple of closer looks.

I'm not sure if this was a mystery location, but the photos were taken around 2nd and Main Streets. The parking lot was opposite the Union Rescue Mission at 226 S Main Street. The image below was taken in 1959, a little before the pictures above.


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[ethereal_reality]

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Great work, Noir Noir, odinthor and HossC!!..(and anyone else I might have missed)

I appreciate all your help.

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[ethereal_reality]

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A mystery location.

I happened upon this photograph recently on eBay.



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Good luck, noirishers!


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[ethereal_reality]

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A mystery location.


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A Carriage of Sweet Peas / Harbor Jubilee - LOS ANGELES, 1899.


A closer look.


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And the reverse.


"Carriage of Sweet Peas - Harbor Jubilee - Los Angeles"
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[odinthor]

LA Times, 4/25/1899

But what of the strange combination of Whitaker's Horse Shoeing and Hedden & Black, as seen in e_r's photo?

[rick m]

Originally Posted by odinthor

OK, I'll stick my neck out: The big building in the distance is the Hall of Justice building. The It's in the Examiner sign was over the entrance to the Broadway tunnel (pic at: https://www.losangelespast.com/image/53288196460 ), so I think the vantage point must be something like looking east from N. Hill a little south of Temple.

The rooftop is of Shirley Hopperstead house -- She fought with city about Court Flight abutting her corner property-- The address number is difficult to read on 1905 Sanborn--Believe it is 438 North Hill --- at Court Street-- catty corner to Bradbury Mansion---

[Flyingwedge]

Odinthor already did a great job locating e_r's photo as the west side of the 300 block of North Main. Here's some follow-up.

The building with the cupola at the right edge of the image is the Rose Block.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Left of center is the Rose Block probably under construction in 1883, across from the ornate Baker Block. You can see wheel
tracks where wagons have turned at Arcadia Street on the north side of the Baker Block:



Hazard-Dyson Los Angeles Photograph Album @ UCLA, page 41


Looking closer, the Rose Block's skylight is missing/not installed yet. Immediately south of the Rose Block is Hermann Heinsch's
harness shop with a horse sign out front at 265 N Main (1881-82 CD numbering). He died in Jan 1883 and his family sold the
business a few months later.




Anyway, this short bit mentions Heinsch's horse and the (by implication, new) Rose Block:



May 3, 1883, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com


With the previoius article and this one, there can be no doubt the Rose Block was under construction in 1883:



Mar 16, 1883, Los Angeles Herald @ Newspapers.com


This is the west side of the 200 block of N. Main Street in 1888 (300 block post-1890), with the Rose Block at center bottom,
numbered 267-1/2 to 273 N. Main:



1888 Sanborn Map @ ProQuest via LAPL


By 1894 the The Rose Furnished Rooms had been renamed The Euclid and the building renumbered 361-367 N Main:



1894 Sanborn Map @ Library of Congress

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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A mystery location.

I happened upon this photograph recently on eBay.



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Good luck, noirishers!


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This structure looked not one whit familiar to me, so I was surprised when I saw various attestations that The Kimberly was at 149 N. Main, of which attestations I choose the following noirish situation to show you:


LA Times, 8/11/1903

The Chicago Restaurant, mentioned above, was at 104 W. 2nd, quoth the 1900 CD.

As to the wall sign for Autobanx:


1939 CD

But perhaps the wall sign for The Kimberly is also just an ad and means neither that this building is The Kimberly nor that the building is at 149 N. Main! But the ads at least establish that we're in Los Angeles.

[Scott Charles]

The building in the background appears to say AZTEC... not sure if that helps at all.

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by rick m

The rooftop is of Shirley Hopperstead house -- She fought with city about Court Flight abutting her corner property-- The address number is difficult to read on 1905 Sanborn--Believe it is 438 North Hill --- at Court Street-- catty corner to Bradbury Mansion---

Thanks, rick m! I always like to hear the human side. This interesting information prompted me to find the following sketch, which shows another side of the Hopperstead house:


LA Times, 1/27/1936

Accompanying the sketch was the following:


LA Times, 1/27/1936

[rick m]

Originally Posted by odinthor

Thanks, rick m! I always like to hear the human side. This interesting information prompted me to find the following sketch, which shows another side of the Hopperstead house:


LA Times, 1/27/1936

Accompanying the sketch was the following:


LA Times, 1/27/1936

Found same article in my collection-- Notes with undated early photo in LAPL reads that their house address was 331 on the Court Street side.. And daughter Charlotte helped widow Rachel Hopperstead run place as a rooming house.. Arnold Hylen took a bunch of pix in early 1950s prior to demolition.

[Lwize]

Some of these photos make Los Angeles look like an old place.

[ethereal_reality]

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. . . a mystery location / somewhere downtown.

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Another 'Fiesta' photograph that turned up on eBay



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This cropped version is much clearer. ..(usually it's the other way around)



I was about to say that the 'Baker Block' is on the left edge of the photograph but now I think the 'Baker Block' is in the distance.

The mystery building is the large two-toned brick building on the right. ..Does it look familiar to anyone?



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[ethereal_reality]

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The Noirish Chronicles:


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I attempted to see if Tyler Simpson was listed in the Los Angeles directories (to find out his apartment address) but there are a boat load of Simpsons.

I wonder if the culprit was ever caught-
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