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Old Posted Jun 10, 2026, 2:03 PM
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my gawd the traffic is completely gridlocked (again) around Western Road and Sarnia. Again. And it is the summertime. I can't wait until this fall, when traffic will be backed up to Hyde Park Road.
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my gawd the traffic is completely gridlocked (again) around Western Road and Sarnia. Again. And it is the summertime. I can't wait until this fall, when traffic will be backed up to Hyde Park Road.
It's gonna be a brutal year until that project finishes but I can't deny that the intersection and the surrounding area have desperately needed this upgrade. I cringe every time I drive through campus along Western Road and see students walking hardly a foot or two away from cars. Plus with the amount of new construction that Western has been doing and has planned, the number of pedestrians and vehicles is only going to keep increasing each year.
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^I totally agree. It should have happened years ago.
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Kitchener-Waterloo (K-W) secured major infrastructure—like the Conestoga Parkway and the ION LRT—through cohesive regional planning, robust government funding, and a geography perfectly suited for a linear transit spine. In contrast, London’s political roadblocks, sprawling design, and fragmented planning prevented similar projects.

1. The Freeways: Ring Roads vs. Arterial Sprawl
Kitchener-Waterloo: In the 1960s, before widespread regional amalgamation, Kitchener and Waterloo had the foresight to plan and build the Conestoga Parkway (Highway 85). This allowed them to route regional traffic cleanly around their downtown cores, later connecting directly to the Highway 401 corridor.
London: London heavily relied on arterial roads rather than a dedicated expressway or ring road system. Historic pushback from local politicians, such as former Premier of Ontario John Robarts in the 1960s, killed plans for a crosstown highway. As a result, drivers must rely heavily on main arteries like Highbury Avenue and Wharncliffe Road, or the 401, causing heavier daily congestion.

2. The LRT: Density and the "Straight Line" Advantage
The K-W Corridor: The ION LRT works primarily because the twin cities share a natural, dense, high-traffic backbone. A single straight line (King Street) links Downtown Kitchener, Uptown Waterloo, two major universities (Laurier and Waterloo), and multiple major shopping hubs. This concentrated high-density corridor made a compelling business case for provincial and federal funding.
London's Dispersed Layout: London is highly decentralized, with massive sprawl in all directions. Additionally, major trip generators (such as Western University) actively opposed early LRT proposals running through their campuses due to disruptions. With multiple thin, historic roadways and a less concentrated downtown, the density required to secure funding for a full LRT was deemed lacking.

3. Political Will and Regional vs. City Dynamics
K-W's Regional Approach: The Region of Waterloo was able to pool tax bases and leverage regional cooperation to push for an $850-million LRT system (which opened in 2019), securing strong upper-level government buy-in.
London’s Funding and Reversals: As a single-tier municipality, London has often been constrained by shifting political tides. Over the last decade, municipal councils have debated, approved, and frequently canceled rapid transit investments. Ultimately, the city settled on a Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) network rather than an LRT, aiming to build density first before future rail upgrades.
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2026, 9:42 PM
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K-W still sucks to drive around.
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