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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey
I think this another scam project to enrich his buddies while making everyone else suffer the long term consequences. You can't widen the platforms to handle through running without removing MSG.
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I agree. Claims regarding “limited through running” are absurd per se. With the thousands of pillars crushing the station, having true through running is impossible. Having one or two trains per hour run through will make no difference and is completely meaningless.
This absurd, secretive contest is like the presidential election of 1824. It’s also a bit like the capricious Judgment of Paris, and we know how that turned out.
It’s rather comical that Trump made a decision about the fate of the busiest and most congested train station in America after meeting with Dolan and Roth. None of them are transportation experts.
CONSEQUENTLY, NOTHING WILL BE DONE TO ADDRESS THE URGENT AND CRITICAL TRAIN CAPACITY ISSUES!
Moreover, this “project,” which is, in effect, an $8 billion Potemkin Village, might not even be built, as it’s entirely possible that Congress won’t fund it. The $8 billion cost has not yet been appropriated. In fact, since the Democrats will assume control of the House, Trump’s request for funding it likely will be DOA since hostile Dems will characterize it as a gift to his cronies. After massive midterm losses, fighting Congress to fund an $8 billion vanity project for Dolan and Vornado probably will not be on the GOP’s agenda. Indeed, the GOP in 2028 will not want to answer a charge of wasteful cronyism, whether valid or not.
The Dolans apparently did not want a brand new arena across the street from MSG. Quite frankly, they shot themselves in the foot. Since that ship (ie., a new arena on 7th) has now sailed,
the City should not extend MSG’s operating permit, and the state should end its tax exemption. Without the operating permit, MSG has little value as an arena. It will remain a white elephant until the
UGLIEST ARENA IN SPORTS is razed (after a
MASSIVE ASBESTOS ABATEMENT), and the site is redeveloped. Hopefully, a park can be built on the MSG site so that,
inter alia, the columns, which crush and obstruct Penn, can be removed. Offices and housing could be built on the periphery of the new park. Sadly, there probably won’t be money for the glass terminal that Grand Penn had proposed. Once again, this anarchic process was an utter disservice to NYC.
With respect to 15 Penn, once Roth is out at Vornado, its new leaders should build housing there, rather than let that huge site fester as a filthy, garbage strewn empty lot for twenty years like Alexander’s and Rizzoli.
After the white elephant (i.e., MSG sans the operating permit) is razed, a new MSG should be built in the Bronx near Yankee Stadium. Such a move should be coupled with the City’s rezoning that area to encourage the development of housing.
I guess we'll be stuck with this vile eyesore for another five years until a new MSG is built in the Bronx. Hopefully, the new MSG in the Bronx will be as good as UBS or Barclays.
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