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Wow, I didn't know she was still standing
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Some random shots from the observation deck at One Vanderbilt. This particular view will be gone in the coming years...



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What will end up happening with this particular view.
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^ it will be greatly enhanced via one vandy obs tower views when they tear down that eyesore hyatt.

you will be able to get an unknown look out at the whole of chrysler tower for awhile.

you of all people should know that.
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Do you know what is happening with the plans for the Chrysler Building's 61st floor observation deck.
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https://www.6sqft.com/chrysler-building-ownership-is-in-limbo/

Chrysler Building ownership is in limbo


By Aaron Ginsburg
October 11, 2024


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The owners of the Chrysler Building are fighting to hold onto the iconic Art-Deco skyscraper after falling behind on more than $21 million in rent. RFR, led by Aby Rosen, on Monday, made a legal filing accusing landlord Cooper Union, which owns the land under the Chrysler, of driving away tenants with its response to a campus protest last October, which influenced several tenants to cancel or terminate their leases, as reported by Crain’s New York. But data from CoStar shows that the tower’s occupancy rose to 85.7 percent as of September 30, up from 82.8 percent in 2023.

When RFR Holdings teamed up with Signa Holding, led by René Benko, to buy the Chrysler in 2019 for $151 million, they entered into a ground lease, giving them control of the skyscraper but requiring them to pay rent to Cooper Union, the owners of the land beneath it, according to the New York Times.

Cooper Union, which uses the rent from the building to subsidize student tuition, on September 27 revealed it was terminating the ground lease and taking control of the building, alleging that RFR was months behind in rent payments.

RFR responded with a lawsuit to halt the takeover, initially claiming that Cooper Union failed to properly file the associated paperwork, which also contained errors, according to Curbed. In an amended complaint, RFR has now added allegations that Chrysler tenants are leaving due to “gross mismanagement” and preventing them from making rent payments.
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Aby Rosen is worth a billion dollars. Pay your rent or eff off Aby.
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https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2025/01/29/aby-rosen-loses-battle-for-chrysler-building/

Aby Rosen loses battle over Chrysler Building
Judge rules Cooper Union terminated lease; orders RFR ejected



By Rich Bockmann
Jan 29, 2025


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Aby Rosen’s last-ditch effort to hold onto the Chrysler Building has come up short — the most significant loss so far in the investor’s troubled portfolio.

A Manhattan judge Wednesday ruled that RFR’s ground lease with Cooper Union at the iconic skyscraper is terminated, and ordered Rosen’s company ejected from the property.

RFR had sued Cooper Union in September after the school moved to terminate the company’s ground lease. Cooper Union said the company stopped paying rent in June and racked up arrears to the tune of $21 million.

“Despite their desperate attempts to shift the focus, the problem has always been their continued failure to meet their obligations,” John Ruth, Cooper Union’s vice president of finance and administration, said in a statement.
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Rosen bought the ground lease on the landmark office tower for $151 million in 2019 with plans to revamp the aging icon. But the cost of the lease payments proved to be too much, and Rosen sought to renegotiate the deal with Cooper Union.

Making matters more difficult, RFR’s partner on the property — Austria real estate investor Signa Holding — filed for bankruptcy in 2023.

Cooper Union sent RFR a default notice in July, but RFR refused to recognize it. In fact, when the school sent representatives to kick Rosen and his company out of the building, they refused to leave.
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https://commercialobserver.com/2025/05/chrysler-building-sale-2025/

Chrysler Building On the Market as Its Landowner Seeks to Boost Income
Cooper Union has hired Savills to sell the Art Deco dowager in what would be its first proper trade in nearly a decade



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Savills is officially marketing the Art Deco landmark at 405 Lexington Avenue on behalf of Cooper Union as was first reported by The Promote. The school wrestled away operations of the property from RFR Holding earlier this year for, among other things, not paying ground rent that had escalated to over $32 million a year and that was due to rise to over $41 million a year in 2028.

Income from the office tenants — including the law firm Moses & Singer, the entertainment agents of Creative Artists Agency and architect Ted Moudis — still does not cover that ground rent, and the building’s 1.2 million square feet has a vacancy of around 15 percent, according to previously reported estimates
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RFR principal Aby Rosen has said the building needs an infusion of more than $100 million — and that’s after he spent that much bringing many items up to date and creating amenities on the 27th floor.

“We are moving on … but we are also going to look at maybe… we’ll get another shot at it… If they’re looking for a serious developer to want to put in money,” Rosen said in a December interview when the court battle was winding down. “We made them a huge offer to put $200 million in equity again after we already [put in money] and they don’t know what they want,” he said of Cooper Union. “When they know what they want, they’ll come back to the promise — you know we’re still the best to do that type of deal, and we have our own money.”

While office rents at the nearby — and much newer — One Vanderbilt have hit $300 per square foot on its top floors, the Chrysler Building, with its lower ceiling heights and nearly hundred-year-old frame, has struggled to break $100 per foot.

Attorney Jonathan Mechanic of Fried Frank said one issue is that the center core floorplates are too “dated” for modern offices as they have awkward shapes and carveouts while the upper stories are very small. Still, he said, “It’s a spectacular canvas with Art Deco charm.”

Others familiar with the tower and its drama agree.

“There aren’t that many global icons in the world and this is one of them, so there will be an enormous appetite for the building,” said Woody Heller of Branton Realty Services, who was in charge of the sales process on behalf of the lender in 1993 while with JLL and then for Cooper Union in 2017 while with Savills. “But it hasn’t been actively marketed since the pandemic. Now, with the resurgence of the office market and notoriety of the building, in theory, if fixed up and rejuvenated, it could be able to lease.”
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To boost income from the tower, industry experts have long drooled over resurrecting its derelict Crown Club inside the peak along with installing a boutique hotel or luxury residential rentals.

Rosen said he had plans to create a hotel in the base from around the fifth floor — which has a huge outdoor terrace — up to the 12th floor along with opening the Cloud Club, a bar, restaurant, entertainment and event space, along with six restaurants. “We had a huge master plan for it in place,” Rosen told Commercial Observer in December. “We started the renovation, but we didn’t get to the finish line.”
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https://www.elledecor.com/life-culture/a70884203/chrysler-building-residential-conversion-possible/

The landmark Art Deco skyscraper might follow in the Flatiron Building’s footsteps.





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The dream of living inside one of New York’s most recognizable landmarks could become a reality. According to The Real Deal, Jeffrey Gural of GFP Real Estate is in advanced talks to acquire the ground lease of the Chrysler Building, a move that could lead to a residential conversion inside the storied tower.

Sources recently told the outlet that discussions are underway with the Cooper Union, which currently owns the land beneath the skyscraper. Nothing has been finalized, but the deal could mark a pivotal turning point for the 1930 Art Deco icon, which has faced mounting financial and operational challenges in recent years. Most notably, the previous leaseholder, RFR Holding LLC, defaulted after falling $21 million behind on payments and officially lost ownership in January 2025.
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For now, the Chrysler Building is primarily an office tower, with commercial tenants occupying many of its 77 floors. But the structure’s historic marble-clad lobby, muraled ceiling, stainless-steel detailing, and geometric flourishes continue to attract visitors and design enthusiasts. The development also briefly held the title of world’s tallest building after it was completed, soaring over 1,040 feet.

Gural’s interest introduces the possibility of a full or partial residential conversion. GFP is already undertaking a similar transformation at another city landmark, the Flatiron Building, where long-vacant offices are being transformed into luxury condominiums.

Early previews from The New York Times suggest an emphasis on high-end interiors, including marble bathrooms that incorporate repurposed balustrades. In theory, a similar restyling could take place in the Chrysler Building’s upper floors.
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But converting the Midtown skyscraper would be far more complex than the 22-story Flatiron Building. As Curbed reported, it would require extensive retrofitting to accommodate residential infrastructure. Think: new plumbing systems, reconfigured floor plates, and updated mechanicals. Any changes would also need approval from the city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission, adding cost and time to an already ambitious project.

The economics present another hurdle. The ground lease—currently about $32.5 million annually and expected to rise to $41 million by 2028—has long been viewed as a deterrent for potential buyers, particularly in a condo market where purchasers tend to shy away from leasehold arrangements.
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Any chance this one will get an obs deck? It's a classic.
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There was talk of it by a previous owner, but the old beauty keeps changing hands like a rare trading card.
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