Metro Vancouver & Interregional Passenger Ferry Service Discussion

[Glow Fun City]

Originally Posted by officedweller

The problem with a Victoria route is that all the business people and politicians take HeliJet.

I haven't been down to Coal Harbour Green Park in many years,
but isn't the dock configured like this:

EDIT:



https://www.google.com/maps/search/vanco..._ep=EgoyMDI2MDQwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Yes, that is what it currently looks like

[Tvisforme]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I still think an Airlander 10 route has its merits...

According to Wikipedia, it's nicknamed the "Flying Bum"...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Air_Vehicles_Airlander_10

[Vantage]

Originally Posted by logan5

You don't need an hour to check in to a ferry. #Even harbour air you can get there 15 minutes before the flight.

No, but that hour also includes time spent docking and securing the ferry to the dock and setting up the ramps to disembark, and then the time it takes to unload everyone. If you've taken Hullo you will know that it takes a good 10 minutes once the ferry arrives at the dock to actually get to the street. And the ferry also doesn't leave the moment you enter the vessel either, you need to wait for everyone ese to load to and the crew to prepare for departing the dock. All I calculated was the travel time. There's a lot of other factors to consider too.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Vantage

A ferry from Vancouver Harbour to Victoria Harbour would be over twice as long (~140km) vs Vancouver Harbour to Nanaimo Harbour (~65km). Making an extremely liberal estimation that the ferry will travel at 40 knots the entire trip (it won't because it will have to slow in Vancouver, Active Pass, and Victoria Harbour) it would take around an hour and 55 minutes. just including travel time. Realistically you are probably looking at close to 3 hours from checking in to disembarking. At that point, if time is money, I'm not sure why you would be taking the ferry. It will be expensive too to travel all that way by ferry.

Ferries are slow, there's a reason why the BC ferries only goes between Tsawwassen and Swartz bay, it's because it is the shortest distance (less time on a slow, inefficient vehicle)

They never go over 34 knots currently so I doubt they manage 40. It would be close to 3 hours ignoring passenger loading/unloading times.

[LeftCoaster]

40kts is ludicrously fast for any decent sized boat, let alone a ferry.

Only the fastest high speed cats in the med get up or over 40.

[madog222]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

40kts is ludicrously fast for any decent sized boat, let alone a ferry.

Only the fastest high speed cats in the med get up or over 40.

The Hullo boats and comparable designs have a max speed of 40kn, typical service speed is lower as is usual for all vessels.

[logan5]

The Victoria Clipper route is very similar (distance/terrain) to a potential Vancouver Victoria route, except I believe the Hullo Ferries are 5 knots faster, and the route is slightly shorter, if embarking from YVR, so I would guess 2 hours 20 minutes.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

Slower, sure, but inefficient? Do you have a suggestion for a more effective way to move hundreds of vehicles and thousands of passengers across the water without building a prohibitively expensive bridge?

A Ferry port on Galliano Island, with bridges over to Salt Spring and the Island.

Now, it's a shorter 30 minute ferry.

[bloomtronzero]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

A Ferry port on Galliano Island, with bridges over to Salt Spring and the Island.

Now, it's a shorter 30 minute ferry.

We're talking passenger-only ferries here, no?


It's a long walk over those bridges to get to Victoria after a ferry drops you off on Galiano. Could run buses, but between that long route and the malahat traffic bottleneck they'd inevitably be stuck in, there's no way you make any time savings vs. busing to Tsawwassen, taking the normal ferries to Swartz, and busing from there to Victoria.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by bloomtronzero

We're talking passenger-only ferries here, no?


It's a long walk over those bridges to get to Victoria after a ferry drops you off on Galiano. Could run buses, but between that long route and the malahat traffic bottleneck they'd inevitably be stuck in, there's no way you make any time savings vs. busing to Tsawwassen, taking the normal ferries to Swartz, and busing from there to Victoria.

No road bridges and new highways to cut across the islands

[Migrant_Coconut]

The real solution is to go back in time 200 years and convince the legislature to make Nanaimo the capital instead; that'd solve a lot of the island's transit problems.

[madog222]

Even better, New Westminster.