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My point is that the memes are not really correct and don't make much sense. The citizens of Canso or NS don't appear to have pooled their money from this one. It looks like the funding came from private firms (maybe they are using crown land but who cares).

The investors will know more about the project than we will. And it may make sense even if the probability of success is low.
...and I will gladly eat my tasty crow when it is a success.

I imagine the investors will even enjoy their returns just the tiniest bit more knowing that fact.
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The Spaceport itself isn't a big deal. Who is going to use it would by my question.
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The Spaceport itself isn't a big deal. Who is going to use it would by my question.
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Maritime Launch Services announces Nanoracks as first payload services provider

NOVEMBER 19, 2021

November 19th, 2021 – Halifax, Nova Scotia – Maritime Launch Services, one of Canada’s leading aerospace firms and the owner of the country’s first commercial spaceport, announced that Nanoracks, a Voyager Space company and the leading commercial payload provider to the International Space Station (ISS), will serve as the company’s first client when Spaceport Nova Scotia’s operations go live in 2023. For this first mission, Nanoracks will deploy customer SmallSats and host spacecraft technology demonstrations.
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All-Canadian Space Launch Solution Plans Inaugural Flight for 2023



May 4th, 2022
Maritime Launch Services and Reaction Dynamics partner to launch Canadian hybrid rockets from Spaceport Nova Scotia

Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada — Maritime Launch Services Inc. (NEO: MAXQ) (MLSI) and Reaction Dynamics (RDX) are pleased to announce that they have signed a letter of intent to conduct launches from Spaceport Nova Scotia, expected to begin in 2023. These launches will provide the country sovereign launch capabilities and add Canada to the short list of “Launching States.”

This partnership will advance the continuing plan to bring medium class launch capability to Nova Scotia to meet growing satellite constellation market needs. A first suborbital launch from Spaceport Nova Scotia using Reaction Dynamic’s small class launch vehicle Aurora and its advanced hybrid technology is planned for the summer of 2023.

Reaction Dynamics is a Quebec-based aerospace company that is developing Canada’s first small-and medium-sized launch vehicles using clean technology that will place small satellites into low earth orbit (LEO) at a competitive price.
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This idea was in the news a few years ago, not sure if it's the same one.

Question: Is that what a spaceport looks like? It just looks like a terminal or a museum, etc., isn't there more to a spaceport?
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This idea was in the news a few years ago, not sure if it's the same one.

Question: Is that what a spaceport looks like? It just looks like a terminal or a museum, etc., isn't there more to a spaceport?
The museum building will be the Launch Control and Visitor Centre which is a safe distance from the launch pad and assembly areas.

They are projecting eight launches per year that will attract thousands of people to the local region for three to five days before and after each launch.

Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport Virginia, USA



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The Cyclone 4-M that will be launched from Nova Scotia is twice as tall as the Minotaur I in the video above. It will be exciting to see launched!


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Story today from CBC Halifax:

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Spaceport in Canso gets green light for construction



CEO Stephen Matier says facility can boost Canada's aerospace sector

Danielle Edwards · CBC News · Posted: Aug 31, 2022 10:15 AM AT

Matier said the company will begin actual construction next year with a goal of launching its first commercial payload by the end of 2024. Afterward, they plan to slowly ramp up to an average of eight launches a year.
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The spaceport is operating on crown land, which the province has leased to Maritime Launch Services. I don't think the project has received a dime of provincial funding though; it's all privately raised.

I'm pretty ambivalent about it (I think it would be cool to have in the province; I also understand why many residents of the nearby town are wary of space rockets launching a couple of kilometres from their front doors), but it feels as if this has passed the monorail/pipe-dream phase and has become a genuinely viable thing.
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As an aside, NS already has a bit of a defence and aerospace industry. One local company is IMP Group which owns subsidiaries around the world and the founder is a billionaire.
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$200 Million investment in Canada's Spaceport, some folks may need to eat some crow...



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Minister McGuinty Announces Strategic Investments in Sovereign Space Launch

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March 16, 2026 – Ottawa – National Defence / Canadian Armed Forces

Amid a more complex and unpredictable security environment, Canada is taking decisive actions to strengthen its security and sovereignty and to reinforce the resilience and long-term strength of the country.

Today in Ottawa, the Honourable David J. McGuinty, Minister of National Defence, announced an historic $200 million investment in core infrastructure for a Canadian-owned spaceport, along with other major new space-related capabilities and initiatives. This marks a significant step forward in Canada’s sovereign space program as outlined in Security, Sovereignty, Prosperity: Canada’s Defence Industrial Strategy.

Canadian-owned spaceport
Demand for timely and resilient launch options are at historic highs worldwide and sovereign access to space has become a critical capability underpinning national security, economic competitiveness, and reliable access to essential space‑based services.

The investment is a 10‑year, $200‑million agreement to lease a dedicated space‑launch pad that will serve as the central foundation for a multi-user spaceport near Canso, Nova Scotia. Operated by Maritime Launch Services, this spaceport will support the operational needs of the Department of National Defence (DND), the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF), and the wider Government of Canada, while also offering ad hoc access to allies and partners.

Launch the North
Minister McGuinty also announced was the selection of innovators for the first round of the Innovation for Defence Excellence and Security (IDEaS) program’s Launch the North contest. This contest is providing $105 million in multi-year grants to support the development and demonstration of breakthrough technologies to advance Canada’s sovereign space launch capabilities. The goal of this challenge is to enable the launch of Canadian payloads from Canadian soil, achieving an initial light lift operational capability by 2028. For the first round of this contest, the following three highly ranked applicants have each been conditionally approved for $8.3 million in funding:

NordSpace – NordSpace Tundra Canadian Responsive Scalable Launch
Canada Rocket Company - Canadian Sovereign Launch Capability Development (R1)
Reaction Dynamics - Aurora-8 Responsive Launch Vehicle
These innovators will move their ideas from concept to prototype and testing, helping Canada build the technical readiness and partnerships required for a future sovereign launch capability.

NATO STARLIFT
In recognition of Canada’s firm commitment to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), Minister McGuinty announced that Canada intends to become a full member of the NATO STARLIFT initiative. STARLIFT is a NATO High Visibility Project, which aims to develop a more resilient, responsive and cost-effective network of space launch capabilities to help Allies launch assets at short notice from spaceports across the Alliance.

Sovereign launch program
These announcements support Security, Sovereignty, Prosperity: Canada’s Defence Industrial Strategy, which establishes a long-term framework to develop a robust Canadian defence industry that provides technological and operational advantage to the CAF and its security partners in their mission to defend Canada, and maximizes growth, job creation and economic benefits for all Canadians. Within the strategy, space launch is identified as a key sovereign capability.

Canada is taking a major step toward securing its future in the rapidly evolving space domain by advancing a core pillar of its emerging sovereign launch program, first outlined in Budget 2025. This effort positions the country to launch satellites and payloads from Canadian soil, on Canadian‑built rockets, at Canadian‑run facilities. The sovereign launch program outlines how Canada will leverage a variety of tools, including directed procurements, grant and contribution programs, support from Crown Corporations, and regulatory changes, to advance sovereign capabilities.

As global demand for space launch services continues to surge, countries around the world are investing in responsive, reliable, and independent space access. Canada’s decision to partner with Maritime Launch Services reflects a forward‑looking commitment to our security, sovereignty, and economic prosperity, while positioning itself to meet strategic needs and fuelling domestic innovation and industry growth.

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“Today, we build on Canada’s proud legacy as a nation of innovators, explorers, and builders. With this step, we are not only advancing our capabilities here on Earth—we are reaffirming our place among the spacefaring nations shaping the future beyond it. Because in the decades ahead, our security, our prosperity, and our sovereignty will increasingly extend beyond our atmosphere.

Canada will be there.

Ad Astra Defendimus”

The Honourable David J. McGuinty, Minister of National Defence

“Space is fundamental to modern military operations. The Canadian Armed Forces rely on space-enabled capabilities for everything from communications and navigation to awareness of the operating environment. Strengthening Canada’s ability to operate in space will help ensure we continue to build the warfighting capabilities needed to defend Canada and contribute to allied operations in an increasingly complex security environment.”

General Jennie Carignan, Chief of the Defence Staff

“Located on Canada’s Atlantic coast, Spaceport Nova Scotia offers safe over-ocean launch corridors and access to highly sought-after orbital inclinations, providing a unique capability that only a limited number of global launch locations can support. Spaceport Nova Scotia helps address a global launch capacity bottleneck, where demand for access to orbit continues to outpace available launch infrastructure.”

Stephen Matier, President and CEO, Maritime Launch Services Inc.

“Space is strategically vital to modern defence and represents a major economic opportunity for Canada. With world-class capabilities across our space ecosystem, Canada must adopt policies and make investments that enable our space industrial base. A key step is further developing a sovereign space launch capability in Canada, ensuring we can support growing global demand while protecting both our economic and national security interests.”

Brian Gallant, CEO of Space Canada

"This selection is a clear signal that the Department of National Defence recognizes the urgent need for a scalable, sovereign pathway to orbit. At Canada Rocket Company, we've assembled a team with over 100 years of combined orbital launch experience - bringing world-class Canadian talent back home to secure Canada’s strategic autonomy through assured access to space. This funding provided through the IDEaS program helps accelerate development timelines and further catalyzes private investment in the space sector."

Hugh Kolias, Chief Executive Officer, Canada Rocket Company

"Today, our nation has sent an unequivocal signal that Canada too will become a spacefaring nation capable of assured access to space. For NordSpace, sovereign launch is certainly about securing our national interests, building a stronger economy, and supporting our allies. However, it is also about healthier food on our plates, clearer communication with loved ones, faster responses to environmental challenges, reshoring advanced manufacturing, and revivifying Canadian dynamism. At NordSpace, we have been working for years to develop scalable end-to-end space launch capabilities for Canada, so we thank the Government of Canada and IDEaS for accelerating our company to launch the north."

Rahul Goel, Chief Executive Officer and Founder, NordSpace

“The moment has arrived. For nearly a decade, Reaction Dynamics has championed a new class of launch capability: storable, stockpiled, and Canadian-controlled. Thanks to the Department of National Defence through the IDEaS program, its Launch the North challenge now brings that vision to life, ensuring Canada and its allies can access space even in the most contested domains.”

Bachar Elzein, Chief Executive Officer & Chief Technical Officer, Reaction Dynamics Inc.

Quick facts
Budget 2025 announced an investment of $182.6M over the next three years to establish a sovereign launch program. That program includes capability development, led by DND’s Defence Research and Development Canada, and launch infrastructure, led by the Royal Canadian Air Force and supported by DND’s Assistant Deputy Minister (Infrastructure and Environment).

Reliable and independent launch access will enable Canada to place critical satellites into orbit even during global uncertainty, geopolitical tensions, or disruptions in foreign launch markets. With military, emergency response, and government services increasingly dependent on space-based systems, sovereign launch protects national interests and enables continuity of operations.

The 10-year lease agreement stipulates that Maritime Launch Services must provide a dedicated launch pad and associated services at an initial operational capability state by the end of 2026. It also stipulates that 90% of the funds received by the company from the lease must be spent in Canada. That means at least $180 million going back to Canadian businesses.

IDEaS is DND’s innovation program that helps Canadian innovators develop solutions to defence and security challenges through competitive funding and targeted challenge calls.

The IDEaS program’s Launch the North is designed to accelerate Canadian space launch-related innovation and to strengthen the foundations needed for future sovereign launch capability. A total of $105 million is planned for investment in this challenge, with $25 million allocated for fiscal year 2025–26, followed by $40 million annually in fiscal years 2026–27 and 2027–28.

Projects were selected through a competitive, merit-based process considering criteria such as technical merit, feasibility, team capability, impact, and alignment with defence and security priorities.

The global space economy is expected to reach approximately $2 trillion by 2040. Investing in sovereign launch capability now means that Canadians and their businesses can benefit for decades to come.

This investment supports a stronger, more connected Canadian space ecosystem—bringing together industry, academia, and research organizations. They will help grow high-value jobs, strengthen Canadian supply chains, and position Canadian firms to compete in the global space economy—while supporting defence and security objectives.
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-nati...vestments-in-sovereign-space-launch.html
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Do we read anything into this announcement coming from the Minister of Defence rather than the Minister of Industry?
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Do we read anything into this announcement coming from the Minister of Defence rather than the Minister of Industry?
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I thought it was about an economical place to launch orbital spacecraft.

But for Canada, of course it's to make sure everybody is happy.
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I thought it was about an economical place to launch orbital spacecraft.

But for Canada, of course it's to make sure everybody is happy.
What do you mean by this?

The main reason for choosing coastal NS is that the main flight path takes it over the open Atlantic. If there is a problem on lift off or initial ascent and they have to abort, it will only kill a few seagulls.
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Shortcut to understanding government spending in Canada so you don't need to read more than the headlines:

Government spending in Atlantic Canada = pointless make-work handouts to lazy unemployed cod fishermen
Government spending in Quebec = favouritism for Frenchies
Government spending elsewhere = strategic investments in Canada's future

If the government just had some sense we'd launch satellites over the GTA and put some submarine bases in Alberta.
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Shortcut to understanding government spending in Canada so you don't need to read more than the headlines:

Government spending in Atlantic Canada = pointless make-work handouts to lazy unemployed cod fishermen
Government spending in Quebec = favouritism for Frenchies
Government spending elsewhere = strategic investments in Canada's future

If the government just had some sense we'd launch satellites over the GTA and put some submarine bases in Alberta.

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Shortcut to understanding government spending in Canada so you don't need to read more than the headlines:

Government spending in Atlantic Canada = pointless make-work handouts to lazy unemployed cod fishermen
Government spending in Quebec = favouritism for Frenchies
Government spending elsewhere = strategic investments in Canada's future

If the government just had some sense we'd launch satellites over the GTA and put some submarine bases in Alberta.
Too silly, but also frequently an accurate read of the mindset out there...

Noted this from back in November, so there is a bit more than snakeoil-level interest here:
https://mda.space/article/mda-space-make...-an-equity-owner-and-a-strategic-partner
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Shortcut to understanding government spending in Canada so you don't need to read more than the headlines:

Government spending in Atlantic Canada = pointless make-work handouts to lazy unemployed cod fishermen
Government spending in Quebec = favouritism for Frenchies
Government spending elsewhere = strategic investments in Canada's future

If the government just had some sense we'd launch satellites over the GTA and put some submarine bases in Alberta.


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What do you mean by this?

The main reason for choosing coastal NS is that the main flight path takes it over the open Atlantic. If there is a problem on lift off or initial ascent and they have to abort, it will only kill a few seagulls.
I'm sorry for the long delay in responding.

There are other places in Canada where a failed launch could splash down. To me it's about the latitude more than anything - closer to the equator is more economical for launches, because they can take advantage of the Earth's rotation to provide an energy boost. So I think we should be negotiating with a Caribbean nation to host our launch site. I was not intending to offend the Atlantic provinces.

This country has a history of spreading the money around (not just internally... e.g., I expect that our 12 boat sub program will end up split between the South Korean and German bidders, because we only have 4 now so if we can get 6 of each type we'll have an advantage vs. before, regardless of the extra costs to support two different models).
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