[Dartmouth] Bridge Tower (30 Pelzant) | ? m | 11 FL | U/C

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Dartguard

Well I hope the developer shows more professionalism in the deconstruction than the cascade of stuff that has visited Neighbors backyards so far. The City might have to post an Adult on site during the process.

That doesn’t sound good. Have there been issues with construction materials blowing off of this structure and into neighbours’ properties? If that’s the case it could be a safety issue.

[Dmajackson]

^There have been stop work orders issued for the site beause of construction debris landing in neighbour yards.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Dmajackson

^There have been stop work orders issued for the site beause of construction debris landing in neighbour yards.

Thanks!

[Colin May]

Will HRM require a detailed plan as to how the demolition will be carried out and will the developer be required to pay for a mutually agreed independent expert to be present before a plan is prepared and also be on site during the demolition ?

[Musicman Halifax]

This is going to be interesting. Elevator will have to be re- done. Electrical probably has a bunch of gear in the penthouse, not to mention plumbing, heating/cooling. It,s going to be a hell of a mess.

[Colin May]

Originally Posted by Musicman Halifax

This is going to be interesting. Elevator will have to be re- done. Electrical probably has a bunch of gear in the penthouse, not to mention plumbing, heating/cooling. It,s going to be a hell of a mess.

In a Banana republic this situation would not be quite the norm....palms would have been greased , inspectors plied with liquor and freebies and on to the next project. Having been to several countries where there were different 'rules ' this brings back quite a few memories. This incident should be national news.... let the 'ink stained wretches' have at it.

[Jstaleness]

Originally Posted by DartmouthSteve

Walked by today, there are 11 floors at the moment.

Little did DartmouthSteve know, this would go on to be a heck of an observation.

[DartmouthSteve]

I can add whistleblower to my resume now. ������

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by DartmouthSteve

I can add whistleblower to my resume now. ������

If only HRM had a Planning and Building Inspection department that monitored compliance with approvals while a structure was being put up instead of being asleep at the wheel!

[IanWatson]

Originally Posted by Colin May

Will HRM require a detailed plan as to how the demolition will be carried out and will the developer be required to pay for a mutually agreed independent expert to be present before a plan is prepared and also be on site during the demolition ?

My understanding is that this all needs to go to court first. Council doesn't do enforcement - their involvement was to consider giving the developer an out by amending the planning documents to make the extra floors lawful. They declined to do that, so now the case has to go to court and it'll be up to a judge to order the specifics.

[OldDartmouthMark]

What a mess.

One would think that the legal costs and time delays on the project will be significant, not to mention the costs of any demolition and rebuild that might have to happen. I would imagine that this will act as a deterrent to any other developers who might have considered similar actions in the future.

It’s good to see that the City took a hardline stance on this, as the optics are huge.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by DartmouthSteve

I can add whistleblower to my resume now. ������

[eastcoastal]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

That doesn’t sound good. Have there been issues with construction materials blowing off of this structure and into neighbours’ properties? If that’s the case it could be a safety issue.

I heard on CBC this morning that neighbours said materials, tools, and in one case, scaffolding components, fell from the site into yards and on roofs.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by eastcoastal

I heard on CBC this morning that neighbours said materials, tools, and in one case, scaffolding components, fell from the site into yards and on roofs.

Yikes! Luckily nobody has been injured or worse from this. Hopefully they have learned from their mistakes and will take steps to prevent this from happening in the future. Totally unacceptable.

[MastClimberPro]

Maybe to mitigate the amount of noise and debris falling the concrete structure should remain but stripped of all non-loadbearing elements. It could stand as a monument to f-around and find our building practices.

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by IanWatson

My understanding is that this all needs to go to court first. Council doesn't do enforcement - their involvement was to consider giving the developer an out by amending the planning documents to make the extra floors lawful. They declined to do that, so now the case has to go to court and it'll be up to a judge to order the specifics.

That is interesting and I wonder if this bunch will just shrug and allow folks to move in like the Tower at Kings Wharf and double dog dare the City to actually do something. Sheriff of Nottingham perhaps?

[Colin May]

According to CBC : " Area councillor Sam Austin said that after meeting with the developer, he believes the case is one of “poor judgment, some negligence, maybe some bad advice,” but not one of intentionally breaking the rules.
“They genuinely thought that it was a matter of the paperwork catching up,” Austin said.
“Now, that's not an excuse. You still went ahead and started building without a valid permit, and that's really hard to look past.”
Councillors should not be meeting with any developer......it is up to staff to ensure the rules are followed and a councillor should defer to staff.
The public does not know when he met with the developer, how many times he met with or talked to or sent messages to the developer or the representatives of the developer and what was discussed.

[kzt79]

Originally Posted by Colin May

According to CBC : " Area councillor Sam Austin said that after meeting with the developer, he believes the case is one of “poor judgment, some negligence, maybe some bad advice,” but not one of intentionally breaking the rules.
“They genuinely thought that it was a matter of the paperwork catching up,” Austin said.
“Now, that's not an excuse. You still went ahead and started building without a valid permit, and that's really hard to look past.”
Councillors should not be meeting with any developer......it is up to staff to ensure the rules are followed and a councillor should defer to staff.
The public does not know when he met with the developer, how many times he met with or talked to or sent messages to the developer or the representatives of the developer and what was discussed.

Exactly, may have made representations or misled the developer - not that it's an excuse for building without proper permits and complete documentation.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Colin May

According to CBC : " Area councillor Sam Austin said that after meeting with the developer, he believes the case is one of “poor judgment, some negligence, maybe some bad advice,” but not one of intentionally breaking the rules.
“They genuinely thought that it was a matter of the paperwork catching up,” Austin said.
“Now, that's not an excuse. You still went ahead and started building without a valid permit, and that's really hard to look past.”
Councillors should not be meeting with any developer......it is up to staff to ensure the rules are followed and a councillor should defer to staff.
The public does not know when he met with the developer, how many times he met with or talked to or sent messages to the developer or the representatives of the developer and what was discussed.

Well said, Colin.

[Musicman Halifax]

Originally Posted by MastClimberPro

Maybe to mitigate the amount of noise and debris falling the concrete structure should remain but stripped of all non-loadbearing elements. It could stand as a monument to f-around and find our building practices.

Interesting take….. leave the floors on the building but they sit empty.