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Old Posted Jan 7, 2026, 2:26 AM
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The Saugus Cafe was the oldest restaurant in Los Angeles County until it closed on Sunday. News broke today that a new owner will reopen it again soon. Here are some screengrabs from the restaurants appearance in a 1956 episode of HIGHWAY PATROL!





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Old Posted Jan 7, 2026, 5:43 PM
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I think you nailed it, Lorendoc. The Thrifty and FranChar signs are different, but this photo was taken in 1957, while the eBay photo says it was taken in 1953.

The Thrifty awning is different, while the FranChar awning appears to be the same.


https://tessa2.lapl.org/digital/collection/photos/id/124927/rec/8

In addition to searching for Westlake Park, I also did a search for MacArthur Park... for which Google offered the following depressing auto-completes:



No mention of MacArthur Park is melting in the dark. Perhaps that situation has cleared up. https://lyricstories.com/song-meanings/macarthur-park-lyrics-meaning
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 7, 2026, 10:20 PM
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Saugus is an Algonquin Indian word. I wonder how the Saugus area around Santa Clarita got it's name, as those tribes were basically in the NE area of North America?! Some know the Algonquin Hotel in NYC where famous writers, critics, performers etc. gathered there for lunch and were informally called The Algonquin Round Table, though they called themselves The Vicious Circle. There's a '90s movie titled Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle. Parker refers to Dorothy Parker. She lived at 8983 Norma Place in the Norma Triangle area of West Hollywood. [Sidebar!]
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2026, 5:32 AM
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A mystery location.


Seller's description:..."Kirk Douglas with Sons Joe and Michael on Wilshire Blvd Vintage Cars 1946"


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...................................................SO CUTE.





     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2026, 5:41 AM
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This seems like a FUTURISTIC idea. (especially for 1928)



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I've never heard about this before. ...I wonder if it (the educational program) was ever widely implimented.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2026, 6:35 PM
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from https://scvhistory.com/scvhistory/sauguscafe.htm
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Thanks, Odinthor, I figured an easterner must have come up with the name! The Narragansett people are an Algonquian-speaking tribe, belonging to the larger Algonquian language family and cultural group of Indigenous peoples from the Northeast and they originally inhabited the area of present-day Rhode Island and are closely related to other Algonquian tribes like the Wampanoag and Pequot.

And not that anyone wants more specificity, but Algonquin refers to a specific First Nation tribe in the north eastern part of North America, part of the larger Algonquian language family and cultural group, which includes many distinct tribes (like Cree, Blackfoot, Ojibwe, Delaware) sharing related linguistic and cultural traits, with Algonquin being the namesake for the whole group, causing the confusion. Essentially, all Algonquins are Algonquian, but not all Algonquian peoples are Algonquins.

Many familiar names to U.S. citizens are derived from this language, such as shikaakwa (Chicago), Quinnehtukqut (Connecticut), Massachusett is from the Massachusett tribe and the Indiana/Illinois Wabash River is from the word waapahshiki, meaning "white water" or "shining water."

LOS ANGELES

Bringing the topic back to NLA and the Tongva tribes that were predominantly here. Tongva/Fernandeño refers to the Indigenous people of the Los Angeles Basin and Southern Channel Islands, with Tongva being the widely accepted ancestral name, while Fernandeño was a Spanish-given name for those absorbed by Mission San Fernando, highlighting their connection to the San Fernando Valley region within the larger Tongva territory. They are the original inhabitants of this area, known for extensive trade, complex culture, and ongoing efforts to revitalize their language (Tongva/Kizh) and heritage, with descendants using names like Tongva, Kizh, and Fernandeño-Tataviam to identify with specific ancestral villages or mission affiliations.

Some L.A. area Tongva/Fernandeño Place Names (Los Angeles Basin):

Azusa: From the Tongva village "Azucsagna".
[I'd heard the place was named Azusa because it "contained everything from A to Z in the USA.]

Cahuenga: From "Kavwénga," meaning "place of the hills" or "place of the fox."

Malibu: From "Humaliwu" or "Umalibu," meaning "place of the wild surf" or "where the surf sounds loudly."

Pacoima: From a Fernandeño word meaning "rushing water" or "the entrance."

Simi Valley: From "Simiyi," meaning "the sheltered place" (Ventureño Chumash).

Tujunga: From the Fernandeño word "Tuxuunga," meaning "place of the old woman." or "place of the sun."

Topanga: From the Tongva village Topanga, meaning "where the mountain meets the sea" or "place of the above."
     
     
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A mystery location.

Seller's description:..."Kirk Douglas with Sons Joe and Michael on Wilshire Blvd Vintage Cars 1946"


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The building behind the pillar on the left looks like the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, and the streets opposite are at about 45 degrees to Wilshire Boulevard, but I haven't managed to identify the white building.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2026, 10:04 PM
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You're correct, Hoss, that is the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. (if you remember, I briefly worked there - at the pool)

I believe the white building is a fancy restaurant but I can't think of the name.

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If I'm not mistaken(?), _er_, the Westlake Theater sign is on the left, while the baby's location is on the right:

The building with the Thrifty in it had been, prior to that, the De Luxe theater, which opened in 1913. In more recent years, a 99 Cents Store occupied that building (substantially smaller now), but it's been empty for several years now.
     
     
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See this link from the wonderful Los Angeles Theatres site for some helpful images and information: https://losangelestheatres.blogspot.com/2017/03/theatre-de-luxe.html, including I think in one of the images the rooftop sign structure mentioned in e_r's original post.

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Thanks Ossrae and odinthor. I never knew the 'Thrifty' building was originally a theater.

Now that I look at the builing in Scott Charles's aerial I can see it has the shape of a theater - with the back (where the screen is located) higher than the rest of the building.


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BUT I'm still confused by the angle (and enormous size) of the rooftop sign in the baby snapshot, everything about it seems 'off'.


................................."You're supposed to be looking at Me, not that damn sign."



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Not an OKIE, but close.

"Vtg B&W Snapshot Man With Custom Packard House Car Rv Los Angeles Calif Jan 11"


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But wait, there's more on the back!..."Our Packard House Car."




Hmmmm, West 54th Street and Normandie. Interesting.

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BUT I'm still confused by the angle (and enormous size) of the rooftop sign in the baby snapshot, everything about it seems 'off'.



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I had trouble with this too, e_r. The baby's head is too large, and it distorts the photo's scale and perspective!

I think this 1954 shot looking NW at Wilshire and Alvarado shows everything. The baby photo was taken in the direction of the arrow;
the baby is sitting about where the dot is, next to the first or second palm tree in from the sidewalk; and I've X'd the back of the big
advertising sign (above the baby) on the SE corner of Wilshire & Alvarado.



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Old Posted Jan 10, 2026, 4:40 AM
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This sorts well with riichkay's 1952 photo, posted on our previous page.

Just for fun, here's the site from the 1909 Birdseye map:


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The trio of buildings at center is our site of interest; they appear to be identical triplets, as far as one can tell from the sketchy art of this map.

Interestingly, one or two of these was moved in 1913 to W. 18th St.


Dept. of Building and Safety online records.

where apparently it still exists (perhaps its twin used to be where the parking lot is now):


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1984 Olympics-Santa Monica Blvd., West Hollywood

In 1984 West Hollywood was still an unincorporated area of Los Angeles. The residents voted to become a separate city that fall and it did the following year.

In that summer of 1984 the large median between the east/west traffic lanes along Santa Monica Blvd. was covered in flagpoles bearing the flags from every single country participating in the 1984 Olympics. Weirdly, I cannot find a single photo of this. Nor anyone who even remembers this. I do have, however, a videotape with a brief few seconds showing this, when local Ch. 4 used it as a backdrop for the weather segment. So I know I am not mis-remembering this. (Though I don't currently have a VHS machine that could play this tape!)

Can anyone find any photos of this? I've tried before some years ago and briefly again today. It was a really beautiful sight and seems weird that there's no evidence of it. As I mentioned, West Hollywood wasn't an incorporated city yet, so I don't know who sponsored this.
     
     
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I had trouble with this too, e_r.

I think this 1954 shot looking NW at Wilshire and Alvarado shows everything. The baby photo was taken in the direction of the arrow;
the baby is sitting about where the dot is, next to the first or second palm tree in from the sidewalk; and I've X'd the back of the big
advertising sign (above the baby) on the SE corner of Wilshire & Alvarado.



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Your annotated photograph pretty much solves the mystery! Thanks so much, Flyingwedge.

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This film on LA history popped up on YouTube today. Great stills and movies of old LA.

LANDSCAPES WITH ANGELS / A HISTORY OF LOS ANGELES ” 1974 L.A. CALIFORNIA DOCUMENTARY
https://youtu.be/eIZYoraQIW8
     
     
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This film on LA history popped up on YouTube today. Great stills and movies of old LA.

LANDSCAPES WITH ANGELS / A HISTORY OF LOS ANGELES ” 1974 L.A. CALIFORNIA DOCUMENTARY
https://youtu.be/eIZYoraQIW8
Thanks, knapford! Here is the movie embedded in the forum:

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Old Posted Jan 11, 2026, 3:54 AM
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Photo dated 1952, from a post a few months back.....https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10473662#post10473662
I somehow missed your earlier post, riichkay. ...I'm sorry about that. There's the elusive billboard right there above the murder victim.

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