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Old Posted Nov 13, 2025, 8:16 PM
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In other words, a north/south Ottawa bypass would be much more useful than an east/west bypass. I will try to draw a map when I get a chance.
I know this is a few years late, but here is what I was thinking. This would pair well with a Kettle Island bridge (also shown on the map). I have it split near Kemptville to avoid having to cross the Rideau, but it could split further north to make it work with a future East-West bypass, if that were ever built.


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As someone who semi regularly travels from Orleans to S Ontario and back I can confirm that a version of this has been my recommended quickest route for the past year. Taking back roads over the provincial highway system because they are the fastest route seems contradictory. Actually my route travels even further east as the 417 and particularly the 174 are congested.

So as odd as that suggested route appears, it's an accurate reflection of what makes sense to get east and if/when the new bridge is built, north to Gatineau as well.
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As much as I'm no fan of Tierney and bringing up the ring road within a few weeks of the final TMP vote when he had years to advocate for it, a bypass isn't a terrible idea. His argument that we should build a ring road instead of the bridge is non-nonsensical, of course.

Roger's proposal would be good, but probably not supported by the ring road advocates on Council because it doesn't serve the suburbs.

The current plans to extend Hunt Club and Walkley through the Greenbelt to connect to Innes is pure lunacy. It wouldn't solve anything since that part of the 417 has capacity to spare, and Hunt Club's stroadafication makes it useless as a ring road.
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The current plans to extend Hunt Club and Walkley through the Greenbelt to connect to Innes is pure lunacy. It wouldn't solve anything since that part of the 417 has capacity to spare, and Hunt Club's stroadafication makes it useless as a ring road.
I'd disagree. A significant contingent of Orleans residents work in the south end of Ottawa. Hawthorne Business park area, Ottawa airport, etc. Providing options to the few current connections (174, Innes, St Joseph/Montreal Rd.) will benefit and help with traffic. The current plan to just funnel it back to Innes will create a massive bottleneck between the connection point and the 417. Getting to the 417 let alone beyond it, is the challenge for many commuters in the East end.

I can agree that Hunt Club is useless as a ring road but I believe the province already has plans to expand the 417 to three lanes in both directions to Anderson from the split so I'm not convinced there is "capacity to spare."
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I know this is a few years late, but here is what I was thinking. This would pair well with a Kettle Island bridge (also shown on the map). I have it split near Kemptville to avoid having to cross the Rideau, but it could split further north to make it work with a future East-West bypass, if that were ever built.


Legend:
  • Yellow: Existing divided highway
  • Blue: Existing roadway (converted to a highway?)
  • Purple: New Bypass
  • Red: New Bridge (and approaches)
Never in a thousand years. Your east connection makes sense, not the west one. The best way imo is convert leitrim from east then jump to fallowfield and finally woodroffe and hunt club into an hwy to connect to 416. Cheapest option for sure. Less expropriations.
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Never in a thousand years. Your east connection makes sense, not the west one. The best way imo is convert leitrim from east then jump to fallowfield and finally woodroffe and hunt club into an hwy to connect to 416. Cheapest option for sure. Less expropriations.
The north part of the east connection doesn't really make sense either. It should be further east to connect the Shefford industrial area to the Gatineau airport industrial area and also to avoid going through residential areas on both sides of the river.
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Never in a thousand years. Your east connection makes sense, not the west one. The best way imo is convert leitrim from east then jump to fallowfield and finally woodroffe and hunt club into an hwy to connect to 416. Cheapest option for sure. Less expropriations.
So are you suggesting the following (in Green) as an improved bypass for getting vehicles from the 401 up to the proposed Kettle Island Bridge (and eastern Ottawa)? That would be a significantly longer route and I am not convinced it would be significantly cheaper, given that most of the land you would need to expropriate is already developed and it requires building a new bridge over the Rideau River.

My route was picked to stay east of the Rideau and avoid developed land while making the route reasonably direct.

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The north part of the east connection doesn't really make sense either. It should be further east to connect the Shefford industrial area to the Gatineau airport industrial area and also to avoid going through residential areas on both sides of the river.
It was chosen to align with the proposed Kettle Island bridge. For trucks to get from the bypass to Shefford Rd, they could exit from the 417 to the 174 and then exit at Montreal Rd.

If the NCC decides the build the bridge further east, the bypass would still be helpful. It could be extended north of the 417, but finding a route that isn't either protected or developed would be difficult.
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