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Old Posted Nov 26, 2024, 3:01 PM
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Five story apartment building proposed at 740 Techwood Drive on the current site of the one-story campus baptist building. 55 apartments, coffee shop, 12,000sqft community space.

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Old Posted Nov 26, 2024, 3:46 PM
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Five story apartment building proposed at 740 Techwood Drive on the current site of the one-story campus baptist building. 55 apartments, coffee shop, 12,000sqft community space.

Another cheap and basic looking design. Sigh...

Why can't they just do the facade in all brick? WHY?!?!? lol
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2024, 3:54 AM
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Another cheap and basic looking design. Sigh...

Why can't they just do the facade in all brick? WHY?!?!? lol

Atlanta always seems stuck in this clichéd, mediocre design—lacking taste, individuality, and innovation. It endlessly churns out countless solutions using a single design template. Creating such designs never requires any thought, so there's really nothing left to comment on.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2024, 4:10 AM
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Atlanta always seems stuck in this clichéd, mediocre design—lacking taste, individuality, and innovation. It endlessly churns out countless solutions using a single design template. Creating such designs never requires any thought, so there's really nothing left to comment on.
Everything is affordable until it's time to write big checks. Criticism is free, but real buyers make real decisions with limited amounts of real dollars. C'est la vie!
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2024, 4:11 AM
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It would include 560-units and 8,100 square feet of retail space.


https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...nt&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin









Have you noticed that the massing layout and architectural form of this design are quite similar to The Legacy in downtown? The only difference is the façade design—The Legacy leans towards a classical style, while this design has a more modern approach. While The Legacy fits reasonably well among the older buildings downtown, this kind of conservative, large-scale design is unsuitable for such a key location in Midtown. This prominent spot by the highway calls for a bolder, more striking design, something impactful like Portman Holdings' Spring Quarter. The current design is too outdated and tacky, completely wasting this prime location. Driving on the highway, the first thing you see is this ugly building.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2024, 4:23 AM
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The Legacy is a plain, ugly building in a sea of plain, ugly buildings, so it fits its surroundings. 680 Spring Street is like a skunk at a garden party. As if I have any say in the matter.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2024, 2:48 PM
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Face it, folks; most buildings in most cities everywhere are basic uninteresting structures. one can probably name the few cities that have planned, architectural gems. Most them would not be in the USA. We lived for 10 years in Edinburgh whose 18th century "New Town" was an architectural "gem". It was carefully planned over many years and designed with high restrictions on what and how it was to be built. Such meticulous planning is rare, if even possible, in the present building environment. We just have to hope that every now and then a builder comes along with design and aesthetics as a top consideration in building a new structure. Thus we wind up with occasional "gems" in a sea of the commonplace - that is the American cityscape; Atlanta is no exception.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2024, 3:43 PM
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Face it, folks; most buildings in most cities everywhere are basic uninteresting structures. one can probably name the few cities that have planned, architectural gems. Most them would not be in the USA. We lived for 10 years in Edinburgh whose 18th century "New Town" was an architectural "gem". It was carefully planned over many years and designed with high restrictions on what and how it was to be built. Such meticulous planning is rare, if even possible, in the present building environment. We just have to hope that every now and then a builder comes along with design and aesthetics as a top consideration in building a new structure. Thus we wind up with occasional "gems" in a sea of the commonplace - that is the American cityscape; Atlanta is no exception.
Agreed. We're talking about a ~33 story student housing tower overlooking the interstate in a not-so-prime corner of Midtown. A decade ago, we would have been thrilled.

I don't see how you could make an argument Atlanta hasn't progressed in terms of architecture quality during this cycle. O4W and West Midtown are leading the way, but Midtown too has progressed far beyond the residential offerings of the 00's (The Atlantic aside, which is a great building), let alone the original post-recession multifamily projects.

Atlanta's statement architecture was generally 1970-2000, mostly because that was the era of trophy commercial towers. Now almost everything new is residential, meaning way smaller multipliers between basic and luxury rents compared with commercial.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2024, 5:28 PM
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I would argue street presence has a much greater impact on a city than the architecture itself. In New York, street trees and outdoor dining have been a game changer. Both were not widespread in the 2000s, however the city has been planting trees and implementing outdoor seating steadily. Even the recent trash can rules have been a considerable improvement. At the end of the day, tall buildings blend in with the skyline but the way buildings interact with the street and number of people on the street have a much better impact
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2024, 1:52 PM
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I don't see how you could make an argument Atlanta hasn't progressed in terms of architecture quality during this cycle. O4W and West Midtown are leading the way, but Midtown too has progressed far beyond the residential offerings of the 00's (The Atlantic aside, which is a great building), let alone the original post-recession multifamily projects.
I agree that Atlanta has progressed in the way you describe, although I don't see many exceptionally interesting new buildings. However, the skyline itself, whether traveling on connector or viewing it from the Westside, has improved greatly and is a pleasure to view.

What is also notable is the increasing number of "modern-style' residential houses that are being built ITP. A great change from the "Dallas-style" concoctions that dominated earlier years,
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2024, 8:37 PM
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According to urbanize, the student housing at varsity has been revised from 34 floors to 40 floors.
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Old Posted Dec 11, 2024, 9:03 PM
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According to urbanize, the student housing at varsity has been revised from 34 floors to 40 floors.
Now let's hope they also improve the design to something more stylish and sleek.
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2024, 2:53 AM
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Lets hope they split the design into 2 towers.. That's truly a huge aesthetically overbearing massing for 34 or even 40 floors in a visually prominent location. Remove the center massing and add more floors to the 2 towers if needed to maintain the same number of apts/beds .
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2024, 3:18 AM
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Now let's hope they also improve the design to something more stylish and sleek.

I suggest switching to a high-caliber design firm. If you continue to tinker with the original plan, it will be impossible to produce outstanding results and may end up ruining this important site. That would become the original sin of this development company. You could look into high-rise residential works by firms like SOM, KPF, Goettsch Partners, or Foster + Partners...... There are many excellent American design firms like these to choose from.
Try to opt for international design firms based in New York or Chicago, and avoid local firms in Atlanta, as their design standards are simply not on the same level.

Such as:
Foster + Partners
https://www.fosterandpartners.com/

Goettsch Partners
https://www.gpchicago.com/

Skidmore, Owings & Merrill LLP
https://www.som.com/

Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates
https://www.kpf.com/

SHoP architects
https://www.shoparc.com/

Diller Scofidio + Renfro
https://dsrny.com/

FXCollaborative
https://www.fxcollaborative.com/

Snøhetta
https://www.snohetta.com/

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Old Posted Dec 12, 2024, 3:23 AM
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680 Spring design

The design is certainly improved. From Chris Bender

https://x.com/cbenderatl/status/1867007792411811993
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2024, 3:51 AM
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The design is certainly improved. From Chris Bender

https://x.com/cbenderatl/status/1867007792411811993
Why continue with a symmetrical and massive form? The rendering shows one side, but the actual building presents a huge solid wall facing the highway, with a stiff symmetrical layout. It definitely won’t look good when built. It seems Atlanta’s architectural design is truly hopeless!
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2024, 5:41 AM
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DRC Recap - 680 Spring Street

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The team presented an updated 40-story student orientated residential building at the northwest corner of Ponce de Leon Ave. and Spring St. It now offers 626 units including 2,235 bedrooms with 431 parking spaces via a 6 ½-story podium. The ground floor includes 8,600 SF of retail space at the corners with a leasing/lobby area at center along Spring St. Pedestrian and bike access is provided from multiple sides with large bike rooms at the southside of the building. Vehicle service and loading is provided by a circular private drive leading to rear access of the parking deck. The southern private drive is an extension of Ponce de Leon Ave. and provides on-street parking. The DRC lauded the team’s response to their earlier comments but remained focused on improving the outdoor retail patios along Spring St. and the design of the south and west sides of the site.

https://www.midtownatl.com/news-center/p...-proposals-and-new-student-tower-returns
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2024, 6:03 AM
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Isn't this seemingly familiar?
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2024, 1:51 PM
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Why continue with a symmetrical and massive form? The rendering shows one side, but the actual building presents a huge solid wall facing the highway, with a stiff symmetrical layout. It definitely won’t look good when built. It seems Atlanta’s architectural design is truly hopeless!
Maybe I’m missing what you’re saying, but surely the building is U-shaped towards the highway, right? It would be much too deep if it were a box.
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2024, 3:58 PM
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Maybe I’m missing what you’re saying, but surely the building is U-shaped towards the highway, right? It would be much too deep if it were a box.
Even the U-shaped side along the highway is essentially a large solid wall with windows, and in reality, the design likely wouldn't emphasize much on aesthetics or transparency. The current style is entirely reminiscent of Soviet-era architecture. It might indeed be worth considering splitting it into two separate units while introducing variations in the architectural form.
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