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Originally Posted by YOWetal
Sure I am in the zero sympathy for them crowd but this discussion was more about those that are now in the suburbs. How they spent 10 years ago being indicative of how they will spend how. Will they pay for parking or get on the bus like their parents did. Ottawa has always been an outlier. The first time I visited Ottawa I was shocked my Girlfriends dad took the bus to his job as a DG. That was not normal in most of the rest of North America. Subway maybe but the bus it's pretty rare. Between the Avocado toast lifestyle and YOLO pandemic I don't see that coming back whatever parking costs.
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You seem to have difficulty understanding how time works. Somebody who was entry level 10 years ago is not entry level today. The people you know have advanced in their careers and are getting paid more. Meanwhile, as described above, pay relative to inflation has been stagnant or worse, leaving those who are entry level today worse off. An AS-01 making $61k most definitely cannot afford to drive in 3-4x per week at $20/day. Twice a week maybe. But at least we've finally moved on from "most junior bureaucrats make six figures".
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Originally Posted by YOWetal
We will see. I was at a BBQ in an inner suburb this week with lots of suburbanites civil servants who stopped off on their way home and absolutely the theme conversation was how bad traffic and parking are and it seems unsustainable to them. There was more talk of doctors notes to get out of in person than their was switching to the bus though. The congestion to force people onto transit theory might yet be proven right. People are certainly feeling it.
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They are coming to terms with it. It's a grieving process accepting that their old lifestyle is gone. They need a few more weeks of being stuck in traffic before some of them start reluctantly giving in to the idea that maybe the bus is better. It won't be all of them by any stretch. But we'll start seeing a trickle back. And if we ever go back to 4-5x per week? It'll become a flood.
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