Expo Line - Surrey Langley Extension: Planning & Pre-Construction

[osirisboy]

Yes

[jollyburger]

Hydro is also doing their utility relocation work

https://www.bchydro.com/energy-in-bc/pro...utm_medium=redirect&utm_content=skytrain

[BaddieB]

https://giphy.com/gifs/2I4dGMb36Y8ZW

[Jimbo604]

SSP "construction underway" standard is first concrete poured.

I would say, imho, on a elevated rail project like this it would be specifically the first guideway column or station concrete-pour, excluding any ancillary construction that may happen.

One day coming up! Probably.

[idunno]

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/surrey-langley-skytrain-new-cost-opening-date

$4B -> $6B
Late 2028 -> 2029

As for the cost increase - I wonder if it includes the OMC now?

And 5 Years to construct an entirely elevated line? I would have thought if any project, this would be a bit speedier.

Maybe that ALR section is a little tricky with the super deep foundations.

[Jimbo604]

Contracts in place, construction start expected in 2024!!

Better transportation coming south of the Fraser as Surrey Langley SkyTrain approaches fall construction
Updated on Aug.15, 2024
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2024MOTI0112-001305

Communities south of the Fraser River are one step closer to high-quality, low-cost transportation now that all three contracts have been awarded for the Surrey Langley SkyTrain project.

Major construction on the first rapid-transit project south of the Fraser River in 30 years is expected to begin in 2024, with guideway, stations, and systems and trackwork contractors now in place. Once complete, people in the region will be able to travel between Langley City and Surrey Centre in approximately 22 minutes and between Langley and downtown Vancouver in just more than an hour.

“The populations of Surrey, Langley and other communities across Metro Vancouver are growing quickly, and we are committed to building infrastructure to meet these needs,” said Rob Fleming, Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure. “This project will transform how people get around, helping create a more affordable, livable and greener future for people in the region.”

Following competitive procurement processes, the Province has selected three teams to deliver the Surrey Langley SkyTrain project.

SkyLink Guideway Partners (SLGP) will design, build and finance the elevated guideway and associated roadworks, utilities and active transportation elements. SLGP is comprised of:

Dragados Canada Inc.
Ledcor Investments Inc.
Ledcor Mining Ltd.
South Fraser Station Partners (SFSP), which will build the eight new stations, is comprised of:

Aecon Constructors, a division of Aecon Construction Group Inc.
Acciona Infrastructure Canada Inc.
Pomerleau BC Inc.
Transit Integrators BC (TIBC), which will design and build the systems and trackwork, is comprised of:

AtkinsRéalis Major Projects Inc.
AtkinsRéalis Canada Inc.
Western Pacific Enterprises Ltd.

The project’s business case, which was approved in 2022 prior to significant market and industry changes, determined that the extension could be built in one stage by late 2028, two years quicker than if it was built in two stages. Following extensive planning work and impacts of the current market climate, the anticipated in-service date is late 2029.

Like all public- and private-sector infrastructure projects, the Surrey Langley SkyTrain project is being delivered during a time of significant market challenges in British Columbia, across Canada and around the world. The cost of the project, now $5.996 billion, has been updated in response to market conditions, including rising inflation costs and key commodity escalation, supply-chain pressures and labour-market challenges. This has resulted in higher price proposals from contractors.

Early works have been ongoing for many months along the new SkyTrain alignment, including BC Hydro work to relocate power lines, as well as pre-construction site surveys, utilities location, geotechnical investigations and design work.

Learn More:

To learn more about Surrey Langley SkyTrain project, visit: https://surreylangleyskytrain.gov.bc.ca/

[madog222]

^

...between Langley and downtown Vancouver in just more than an hour.

Jeez, who do they have writing this?

Originally Posted by idunno

As for the cost increase - I wonder if it includes the OMC now?

I doubt it, they likely would have mentioned that as an explanation for the cost increase.

[dleung]

OMG, $6 billion... for elevated skytrain to 8 stations, half of which are in the middle of nowhere? Like $750 million per stop? Lol why don't we do skytrain to Steveston and White Rock while we're at it, since clearly we have way too money to spend and don't know what to do with it... oh wait, we don't. It'll cost half as much to buy a Tesla for every single one of the 60,000 daily riders lol

[BaddieB]

acciona strikes again

odds a BC Conservative government would just scrap the project entirely?

[nname]

Originally Posted by dleung

OMG, $6 billion... for elevated skytrain to 8 stations, half of which are in the middle of nowhere? Like $750 million per stop? Lol why don't we do skytrain to Steveston and White Rock while we're at it, since clearly we have way too money to spend and don't know what to do with it... oh wait, we don't. It'll cost half as much to buy a Tesla for every single one of the 60,000 daily riders lol

Still a bargain compared to the Green line in Calgary... about the same cost, but about half of the length and half of the ridership. And it's not even fully grade-separated!

And according to the DailyHive article, this doesn't include OMC.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/surrey-langley-skytrain-new-cost-opening-date

[Migrant_Coconut]

I wouldn't put it past the Cons to scrap Broadway. Fortunately, they're unelectable anywhere in the metro that's not West Van, Richmond or Point Grey/Kerrisdale.

[chowhou]

Originally Posted by dleung

OMG, $6 billion... for elevated skytrain to 8 stations, half of which are in the middle of nowhere? Like $750 million per stop? Lol why don't we do skytrain to Steveston and White Rock while we're at it, since clearly we have way too money to spend and don't know what to do with it... oh wait, we don't. It'll cost half as much to buy a Tesla for every single one of the 60,000 daily riders lol

I'm not here to defend cost overruns by any means, but bear in mind it's not as though the money disappears into the void. A good chunk of that money gets paid out locally in the form of local wages and buy orders from local suppliers. Almost certainly a non-zero amount of that money is in fact going to end up being used downstream to purchase Teslas by well paid tradespeople and business owners/employees (along with quite a few F-150s and Ram 1500s mind you).

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I wouldn't put it past the Cons to scrap Broadway. Fortunately, they're unelectable anywhere in the metro that's not West Van, Richmond or Point Grey/Kerrisdale.

You're aware that the entire province votes for BC MLAs and the NDP and Cons are polling evenly with each other within a margin of error, right?

[chowhou]

https://338canada.com/bc/map.htm

Someone's forgetting about Delta, South Surrey, Langley, the entire Fraser Valley... even the new Vancouver-Yaletown electoral district is currently projected as a win for the BCC (If it existed in 2020, it would have been won by the Liberals)

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

You're aware that the entire province votes for BC MLAs and the NDP and Cons are polling evenly with each other within a margin of error, right?

The Dippers are 20+ points ahead in most of the places they actually need. United at its peak was 19 seats behind, so the Cons can grab 101% of the ex-Libs and still be stuck in Opposition if they can't win Vancouver.

I can see the Cons flipping a few seats, even a dozen. 19? In the metro? Not by being the Make BC Great Again party they're not.

[WBC]

Originally Posted by chowhou

I'm not here to defend cost overruns by any means, but bear in mind it's not as though the money disappears into the void. A good chunk of that money gets paid out locally in the form of local wages and buy orders from local suppliers. Almost certainly a non-zero amount of that money is in fact going to end up being used downstream to purchase Teslas by well paid tradespeople and business owners/employees (along with quite a few F-150s and Ram 1500s mind you).

You just need to follow the infrastructure cost project overruns around the world to realize how high the real inflation is as opposed to fantastical CPI index. Print baby, print...

[Migrant_Coconut]

I think it was also a mistake to have three contractors instead of one. Instead of 1/3rd the middleman bloat, now we have triple.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I think it was also a mistake to have three contractors instead of one. Instead of 1/3rd the middleman bloat, now we have triple.

I mean there's probably a reason it's a consortium and not a single company bidding and it's not to share the middleman money.

[SpongeG]

the original price was an estimate before the real-world bid prices came in, right?

It's not surprising given the state of the world, other countries and cities with projects are dealing with the same kind of large price increases in a post-COVID world.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I think it was also a mistake to have three contractors instead of one. Instead of 1/3rd the middleman bloat, now we have triple.

Plus three entities will have to coordinate work with one another.