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Old Posted Oct 10, 2023, 8:20 PM
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Some Victoria skyline and aerial pics, as the aerial ones are from Facebook I can’t limit the size of them. Both my pics (October 5th) and the aerial pics seem to be taken about the same time.

As with many smaller cities it’s hard to get a good skyline shot, but the typical ones you often see are taken from the Johnson Street bridge or the other side in Vic West or the Songhees walkway. This is also the view you’d have coming in on a ferry to the inner harbour.

Looking at this skyline from this perspective there doesn’t seem to be much behind it, but it’s only when you actually walk through downtown or see the aerial view that you realize it’s just the tip of dense iceberg. Funny that the aerial shots do not include 3 of the 4 current tallest buildings nor the dense areas of James Bay or Vic West/Songhees.

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Victoria BC. October 3, 2023, 1:35 p.m. by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr



Downtown Victoria BC, October 3, 2023. 2:07 p.m. by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr



Victoria BC, October 3, 2023. 2:22 p.m. by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr



Victoria BC, October 3, 2023. 1:47 p.m. by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr



Victoria BC, October 3, 2023. 2:34 p.m. by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr



Victoria BC Inner Harbour, October 3, 2023, 1:44 p.m. by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr

Now the aerial photos shared by NearMe on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=248317914874928&set=pcb.248318018208251, although the photos are by @wild.vandermeer on Instagram.

Bottom left is the Laurel Point Inn, which a few years ago had all the soil removed and all the storefront completely dredged as it was the site of the British American Paint Company from 1906 to 1975. Still waiting for the city and local First Nations to complete consultations on what the new park will look like, meanwhile it’s been bare for 3 or 4 summers now! Believe it or not area is actually green grass from November to Spring and currently it’s just burnt grass not a dirt field.












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Old Posted Oct 10, 2023, 8:22 PM
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Shot from the lake near Cherry Beach, some Southcore evening magic captured by the (brilliant) long lens of Phil Marion.

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That is a wild photo. Those towers in the background are at least a kilometre away from Cherry Beach.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 10, 2023, 10:13 PM
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^ RBC is actually 3km from the little lifeguard pavilion in the foreground.
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Amazing shots of Victoria!

I love the colour palette and variety or architecture.

The attention to detail in the landscaping also sets Victoria apart.

The relative lack of surface parking lots is another feather in its cap.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2023, 4:27 AM
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Glad you enjoyed the pics Metro-One

Interesting comment about the colour palette, it’s due in part to the your next point, the wide variety of architecture, so you have a mix of warm brick tones, pops of colour, some glass, etc. Actually surprisingly few glass dominant buildings even the climate and price per unit could justify it. Probably a good thing for Victoria that its always a bit behind the times and leery of the latest thing.
     
     
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Victoria is like a mini-Vancouver. Some really great density. Even the modern condo towers are like mini versions. Really nice city to visit.
     
     
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Victoria is like a mini-Vancouver. Some really great density. Even the modern condo towers are like mini versions. Really nice city to visit.
The Victorians I know would be displeased to be viewed as a mini-Vancouver!
     
     
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Victoria is really maturing and growing up. It's one of my favourite cities to visit and stroll around.
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For anybody who has been, how is Victoria at street level? Does it have a good, walkable downtown with active street fronts and nice public spaces?

Hard to tell only by looking at aerial pictures.

In comparison, I would imagine Kelowna might be building much taller towers but potentially lacking in this area compared to Victoria. Thoughts?
     
     
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For anybody who has been, how is Victoria at street level? Does it have a good, walkable downtown with active street fronts and nice public spaces?

Hard to tell only by looking at aerial pictures.

In comparison, I would imagine Kelowna might be building much taller towers but potentially lacking in this area compared to Victoria. Thoughts?
It does. Victoria has always had a nice, active, walkable downtown. It didn't suffer much abandonment over the years, and has always been a vital part of Victoria.
     
     
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For anybody who has been, how is Victoria at street level? Does it have a good, walkable downtown with active street fronts and nice public spaces?

Hard to tell only by looking at aerial pictures.

In comparison, I would imagine Kelowna might be building much taller towers but potentially lacking in this area compared to Victoria. Thoughts?
Victoria's downtown is remarkably intact for a North American city. You won't find many surface parking lots there. You also won't find very many highrises either. It's a tasteful mix of fine-grained low rise buildings punctuated by a generally interesting mid-rises with a few high-rises for added measure. The streets are active for a city of Victoria's size and the relative lack of large office blocks seems to have encouraged a lot of organic mixed-use in the downtown. As with Vancouver, there's also no highway directly serving the downtown.
     
     
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Top notch form from the photos posted here over the years. Kelowna is not even close. It's not a fair comparison either. Kelowna is a changing resort town.
     
     
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Victoria seems to lack dense or even semi-dense residential in its downtown-adjacent neighbourhoods. How great would Victoria look if it had a solid ring of bay-and-gable rowhouses (or equivalent) surrounding the core? Damn.
     
     
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Victoria seems to lack dense or even semi-dense residential in its downtown-adjacent neighbourhoods. How great would Victoria look if it had a solid ring of bay-and-gable rowhouses (or equivalent) surrounding the core? Damn.
That remains a great, unsolved mystery of Canadian urbanism. In 1892, the denizens of Victoria built these opulent commercial blocks in their extensive downtown, but what kinds of houses did they live in?
     
     
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Keeping in mind Victoria is a small city, I’d say one of the defining characteristics of the city is the strength of its neighbourhoods surrounding downtown, in particular Fairfield, James Bay, Fernwood and Vic West. Speaking of 1892, that’s when the streetcar line was built which helped establish small neighbourhood centres. Definitely not as dense as a million plus city, but if you look at the neighbourhood density stats it’s pretty decent. For example here’s an Apple Map view with James Bay on the left and the area leading towards the ocean with a ton of 4 storey apartment buildings built primarily between the 60’s and 80’s and now with newer apartment buildings taking there place. While not as beautiful as row houses, I believe they are more dense and many of them have beautiful grounds and gardens as that used to be the main way of differentiating and competing in the market when that needed to be a thing.

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Old Posted Oct 11, 2023, 8:50 PM
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As for the walkable downtown as mentioned above the fine grain, small building scale makes it so. It may just be the city with the most tiny shops you can imagine tucked into alleys, main streets even the base of new developments.

Few more recent pics of mine:

Lower Johnson Street, Victoria BC, October 3, 2023. 2:37 p.m. by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr

Wharf and Johnson Street, Victoria BC. October 3, 2023, 2:37 p.m. by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr

Government Street - Victoria BC. April 24, 2023 by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr

500 Block of Yates Street - Victoria BC. March 25, 2023 by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr

Crossing into Bastion Square - April 27, 2023. by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr
     
     
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And last but not least - a couple of different areas of density outside of the downtown core, the picture below shows a main Street leading from downtown (Fort street) which turns into Oak Bay Avenue which passes through a Victoria half of the street before entering Oak Bay, though the Oak Bay Village until it reach the ocean. The wealthy municipality of Oak Bay hasn’t grown in population since the early 1970’s as has always resisted development, but now it’s on the provincial government mandated housing target list, so I’d expect they would finally permit many of the hundreds of new units to go along their half of half of the road. On the right you see the section within Victoria, again heavy apartment density outside of downtown. Most of it again 4 storey apartment buildings from the 1970’s to 1990’s, but now starting to see newer and taller infill apartment/condo buildings again.



Apple Maps - Oak Bay Avenue by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr

The second picture shows the Songhees area directly across the Johnson Street bridge from downtown, this area should grown in density significantly based on the latest plans submitted to council this year.



Apple Maps - Songhees by JohnnyJayEh, on Flickr



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Perhaps a looming negative to the finer grain streetscape is this five tower all rental two stage approved development for downtown by Starlight where site work for stage one has begun. On the other hand 1500 new rentals is never a bad thing for a downtown.



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And it’s not all mid or high-rises, this large development over much of a city block is now under construction (excavation stage) at the edge of the historic old town:



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Victoria is like a mini-Vancouver. Some really great density. Even the modern condo towers are like mini versions. Really nice city to visit.
I wouldn't go to Victoria and express that opinion unless you have a damn good dental plan.

Victoria is very dissimilar to Vancouver as Victoria is built on a human scale and has retained it's architectural heritage while Vancouver can't pull it down fast enough. The lifestyle, values, and pace of life in Victoria {and all of Vancouver Island for that matter} is very different from Vancouver or anywhere else in BC.
People live on the Island because they want to get away from Vancouver not because they want to be closer to it.
     
     
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Nowhere on the West Coast has any sort of attached housing except San Francisco, really.
     
     
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