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Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark
However, sometimes you have to look in the mirror. Having a discussion with a group that doesn't accept or consider criticism is equally non-productive. I was originally hoping to perhaps improve that level of discussion by pointing out negative labeling (for both sides, BTW, as I detest "cycling zealots" as much as "anti-bike" labels), but neither side seems to want to drop their weapons, so I now see there is no point in that discussion, since my idea was apparently super-unreasonable.
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There's a bit of bothsideism going on here. On one hand, there are the pro-bike crowd who'd like to have a discussion about the improvements being made to cycling and the other group who come in here calling everyone names (no anti-bike isn't the same as "crazy cycling zealots") and consistently bringing down the discussion. Bikes are a part of transportation systems across the world and we shouldn't have to provide the arguments for why this is the case on a near-weekly basis. To me, it seems obvious there's a few trolls on here who seem to take pleasure in bringing this discussion/thread down to a grade 2 level of debate.