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Well Bruce, after 6490 of your posts, I eventually wondered where you got your avatar. I don't recognize you behind the green apple.
What can you tell us about it ? It has become a noirish and cryptic landmark to most of us.
I happened across this photograph when I first moved to Indiana.
I was surprised by this young man

oops. I wasn't finish telling my story. -my damn computer again.

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1941 - Frank Ridley's Signal Station in Santa Monica ("Tenth Street and Wilshire")

What's POLISH STEAM?
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The "105 N" sign is correct. Mooney's Seiberling Service Station was at 105 North Oxnard Boulevard, Oxnard (the clue was the building on the right). It now sells Arco fuel under the name Lashkari's Service Station.


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Thanks for the follow up. Although there is a Mooney's Automotive '54 listing, the address did not add up. Any evidence that the current management continues the Mooney tradition of giving away 1000 gallons per month? Or maybe they just have a free crayon drawing every Tuesday to give away compressed air.




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Old Posted Aug 21, 2014, 12:41 AM
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about my avatar, Rene' Magritte's Le fils de'Homme.

...as I was saying

I had just moved to Indiana from Chicago and felt as if I were in the hinterlands, when I saw this Purdue student's extremely clever Halloween costume.
Purdue isn't exactly known for it's liberal arts so I'm pretty sure this poor fella was met with blank stares all night long as he went bar hopping in campus
town. As an Art Historian (it was my minor in college) I felt a certain affinity with this guy.
I also saved the photo because he looks like me when I was younger -during my time in Los Angeles. (minus the apple )
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What's POLISH STEAM?
I think it probably refers to Polish and Steam Cleaning, two of the services available at this full "service" station. I'd be more concerned if they advertised auto dialysis, seasonal colonics, and a relaxing oil change (filter at additional cost).
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Hmmm, this is interesting....I've never seen a Yellow Cab cap up close before.


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I'm surprised by the painted 'wicker' area above the brim. (was this for air flow to avoid sweaty scalps?)


...as seen in this movie that I've never been able to watch all the way through .

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I've been trying to figure out the location of this postcard. (notice the street at far left that abruptly ends at the hillside)


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Clara Kimball Young was the most popular movie actress in the late 1910s. On wiki they mention her having an affair with a Harry Garson
(after an earlier affair with a married Selsnick), but when I clicked on Harry Garson's profile there was no mention of a studio or it's location.
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I've been trying to figure out the location of this postcard. (notice the street at far left that abruptly ends at the hillside)


ebay

Clara Kimball Young was the most popular movie actress in the late 1910s. On wiki they mention her having an affair with a Harry Garson
(after an earlier affair with a married Selsnick), but when I clicked on Harry Garson's profile there was no mention of a studio or it's location.
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Garson Studios was located at the corner of Allesandro (today called Glendale) and Clifford Street. It went through several name changes, including Garson Studio and Selig-Polyscope Studio, among others. http://allanellenberger.com/tag/garson-studios/

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The similar view today. Sadly, everything is long since gone.



The aerial view today shows that Clifford Street still dead-ends, and the rather small area that was once the film studio location, which is in the center.



Map showing the layout of the Garson Studio in the 1920's.http://allanellenberger.com/tag/garson-studios/

To keep everyone happy, I found out there was some noir associated with the studio....
"Tragically, the first celebrity murder also occurred here on October 27, 1911 when Frank Minematsu, the studio caretaker, went berserk and shot and killed director Francis Boggs. In the struggle to retrieve the gun, William Selig was shot and wounded in the arm. Ironically, the day before Boggs’ murder, producers David Horsley and Al Christie made their first film in a little community to the west called Hollywood.[http://allanellenberger.com/tag/garson-studios/
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[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6699547]Hmmm, this is interesting....I've never seen a Yellow Cab cap up close before.


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I'm surprised by the painted 'wicker' area above the brim. (was this for air flow to avoid sweaty scalps?)

Yes, caps worn by Passenger train crews had the same feature. In rain or snow there was a plastic covering for the cap that was secured at the bottom of the rattan area by an elastic band. I am sure this held true for bus driver and police hats as well.

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Those are some great looking service stations Tourmaline.
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I came across this rather bleak looking slide earlier today on ebay.

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I'm curious about the white building on the right. Does anyone know what building that is?
Notice how the railroad tracks come within a few feet of it's front door.


Here's a detail


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That building was the trainmens' off-duty quarters at PE's Macy Street Yard, ER. It lasted at least until the early 1960s, possibly longer.
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When I look at photographs like the ones E_R and MartinTurnbull posted it seems as though if I visited that time I'd spend hours (days) just admiring the automobiles, the styles, the clothes...as well as the buildings. Then I wonder if anyone looking at photographs of today will feel the same way at some point?
I use these photos as research for my novels set in LA during the 20s, 30s, and 40s and I study all of those aspects - architecture, clothes, hats, car, signage, store windows - of the photos posted here. And I've often wondered, too, how people of the future might look at photos taken today. I'm sure they will look at photos from today and go, "Awww...look at those old cars back when people had to actually drive them themselves..."
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I'm curious about the white building on the right. Does anyone know what building that is?
Notice how the railroad tracks come within a few feet of it's front door.

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That building was the trainmens' off-duty quarters at PE's Macy Street Yard, ER. It lasted at least until the early 1960s, possibly longer.
I originally thought that the building might have had a Gallardo Street address, and since Gallardo Street is very short, it would be easy to track down. As I checked various old maps it became clear that for most of its life, the building served the railroad in some capacity, so HenryHuntington's identification makes perfect sense.

What the old maps also show is how this once residential neighborhood got divided, first by the railroad, then the addition of Ramona Boulevard, and finally the change to the San Bernardino Freeway and El Monte Busway. Los Angeles Past made some very good posts about the construction of Ramona Boulevard back in 2010 - you can see them here, here and here.

This is the Baist map from 1910. The Pacific Electric Railroad only appears to have a single track down the center of Monrovia Street. Neighboring Yosemite Street has also been divided into plots, and there seem to be houses along Gallardo Street and Prospect Place.


www.historicmapworks.com

Skipping ahead to the 1921 Baist map, and the railroad is taking over. The old single track has become at least four, with many more at the northern end of Monrovia Street. Both Yosemite Street and the short perpendicular street at its southern end have the word "Vacated" on them. Could that be our trainmens' off-duty quarters on the lower corner of Monrovia Street?


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The 1943 Renie Atlas isn't as detailed, but does show Ramona Boulevard where Monrovia and Yosemite Streets used to stand.


www.historicmapworks.com

This aerial view is from 1948, and appears to show e_r's building just above the Macy Street Bridge. I think there are only two rail lines going under the bridge at this point, although there are still plenty more as they go north. Check out post #2161 by sopas ej for a couple of pictures looking south from the Macy Street Bridge in the 1950s.


Historic Aerials

The curved overpass that once linked the San Bernardino and Santa Ana Freeways (as mentioned in sopas ej's post) is still present in this 1980 aerial. The old railroad tracks were removed a couple of years after the image above was taken, and replaced (a couple of decades later) by the El Monte Busway. This is the last date at which I can see the trainmens' building by the Macy Street Bridge. Google Earth shows that it had gone by 1994. You may also notice that Gallardo Street was still residential in the image above, but by 1980 it had become home to several auto wrecking yards. The 1980s must have been the heyday for these yards because there were several more in the surrounding area (I recall a scene from 'The Fall Guy' being filmed in a yard just across N Mission Road). Many of the yards survive to this day, but they don't dominate the area as they once did.


Historic Aerials

Before I leave this area, I'll finish with this great aerial that I found on USC. It's undated, but shows Ramona Boulevard completed while the Aliso Street Viaduct had yet to be built, so my guess is late 1930s. It really shows how the railroad once dominated the area. I think it also helps to show where the pictures in Los Angeles Past's posts (see top of this post) were taken.


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I use these photos as research for my novels set in LA during the 20s, 30s, and 40s and I study all of those aspects - architecture, clothes, hats, car, signage, store windows - of the photos posted here. And I've often wondered, too, how people of the future might look at photos taken today. I'm sure they will look at photos from today and go, "Awww...look at those old cars back when people had to actually drive them themselves..."
After reading e_r's recent post about Eileen Sedgwick and 'Terror Trail', I decided to take another look at Harold Lloyd's 'Safety Last!' (I would've watched 'Terror Trail' if it wasn't lost ). Maybe due to my familiarity with the movie, I found myself increasingly focusing on the ordinary people in the background, going about their everyday lives in 1923.

The full movie is currently on YouTube:

Video link: Safety Last!


Previous mentions of 'Safety Last!' on NLA:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1294
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2205
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6676
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14800
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And I've often wondered, too, how people of the future might look at photos taken today. I'm sure they will look at photos from today and go, "Awww...look at those old cars back when people had to actually drive them themselves..."
Lol! Hmmm...

A bit of simulated time-traveling:

I know that the film Gangster Squad is not a favorite on this board for several reasons. I still am going to see it sometime, just because, but we know that scenes filmed at the Chinese Theatre were deleted and reshot in Chinatown, or whatever, because of the Colorado incident in a movie theater.

There's some footage online that was taken while the film was being shot which shows Hollywood Blvd. and the Chinese Theatre done up in period dress at Christmas time.

It says "deleted scenes" but the footage is not from the film, but someone shooting behind the scenes.

I think it is interesting and gives a little what it might have felt like in 1949, was it? Yes, Madame Tussaud's wasn't there and the red car we see come by is fitted with tires, but go with it...if one has a mind to. It's quite short.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa2uBOHN8ps

It's indicated this was filmed in December of 2011. I surely would've gone there to see this if I had known about it. Surprised it wasn't on the news at all.
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That building was the trainmens' off-duty quarters at PE's Macy Street Yard, ER. It lasted at least until the early 1960s, possibly longer.
Thanks for identifying my mystery building HH and HossC. -much appreciated!

originally posted by HossC





While searching for additional information I came across this series of annotated aerials at http://ctr.trains.com/~/media/Files/...930s%20BEV.pdf





http://ctr.trains.com/~/media/Files/...930s%20BEV.pdf







http://ctr.trains.com/~/media/Files/...930s%20BEV.pdf








http://ctr.trains.com/~/media/Files/...930s%20BEV.pdf


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[B]Garson Studios was located at the corner of Allesandro (today called Glendale) and Clifford Street.


Map showing the layout of the Garson Studio in the 1920's.http://allanellenberger.com/tag/garson-studios/

To keep everyone happy, I found out there was some noir associated with the studio....
"Tragically, the first celebrity murder also occurred here on October 27, 1911 when Frank Minematsu, the studio caretaker, went berserk and shot and killed director Francis Boggs. In the struggle to retrieve the gun, William Selig was shot and wounded in the arm. Ironically, the day before Boggs’ murder, producers David Horsley and Al Christie made their first film in a little community to the west called Hollywood.[http://allanellenberger.com/tag/garson-studios/
Thanks for digging up the information on Garson Studios Albany_NY. Excellent post!
Did you notice the underground pedway in the contemporary GSV of the site?

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I had to chuckle at the simple decorations on the curtain and the tinsel leaves stuck on that pole.
I don't think the decorator won any awards for this display. lol

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manual from 1969.










below: Don't skim over the part where the guy thinks he's a graham cracker.


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"Ooops, there went my arm, crumbling off." It would be hilarious if the toddler hadn't died.

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While looking through the 1911 CD, I found this bizarre advert appearing at roughly 40-page intervals. The classified entry (included below the main advert) spells the doctor's name as Schiffman rather than Shiffman. I think that the 107 N Spring address puts him in the Schumacher Block near First and Spring, although I haven't found any pictures.


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The same directory also lists a W W Schiffman Dental Co at 427 S Main - I wonder if they were related. I did find a picture of this one within an image previously posted by Flyingwedge. By 1917, this Dr Schiffman was a close neighbor of the Rosslyn Hotel.


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Did you notice the underground pedway in the contemporary GSV of the site?
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I did notice the pedway, ER. I have always thought they were rather creepy. A dark mind can imagine all sorts of unsavory things going on under the roadway. I have used pedways a few times over the years. Unfortunately, I have never personally witnessed any unsavory goings-on, but I keep hoping!
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