CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction, v7 - Page 1032

rivernorthlurker · #**20621** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 2:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally!

For those not familiar this is the lot being dismantled.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8917...7i16384!8i8192

the urban politician · #**20622** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 1:01 PM**

Where are people gonna park?

If we lose all of these garages, we ain't gonna have anywhere to park!

Very un-American

CaptainJilliams · #**20623** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 1:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Where are people gonna park?

If we lose all of these garages, we ain't gonna have anywhere to park!

Very un-American

Walk, bike, take public transit like a normal city-goer. Problem solved! Now tear down some more!

Jibba · #**20624** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 2:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Hell yes! That garage definitely needed to go. This will really transform that otherwise dead area. Streeterville needs a lot more developments like this

I wouldn't call that area dead. It will be nice to enclose that corner, I suppose, but unless Grand gets wider sidewalks or other traffic calming, or doesn't get a nicer connection to Upper Michigan, I don't see it being much more activated by the one building.

BVictor1 · #**20625** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 4:16 PM**

170 N. Green Plan Commission Presentation 04.21

https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/...esentation.pdf

Skyy · #**20626** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 4:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally!

Really happy Streeterville is getting more development traction

west-town-brad · #**20627** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Where are people gonna park?

If we lose all of these garages, we ain't gonna have anywhere to park!

Very un-American

there is probably more parking or the same amount in the new building

gebs · #**20628** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 5:31 PM**

^^^ TUP's being sarcastic.

Mr. Chicago · #**20629** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 6:05 PM**

Mr. Chicago here,
Ah ----I thought they would come for this garage. While it is old and very quiet since the desk people left, I usually park there when I am in town. Sad to see it go since they had very good early bird specials. Furthermore I would like to agree with the Urban Politician. Parking garages are essential for the life and income of a great city. Just when the Mag. Mile needs people and their money,
easy access to the area is chipped away. Yes, I know there are other other lots and garages but parking is not to be taken lightly. A condo or high rise circulates the same old money. A parking garage invites money from the outside to the town. Lets hope the new building has a garage.

the urban politician · #**20630** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 6:06 PM**

^ I think Putin is behind this.

He's trying to get back at America by secretly getting rid of all of our parking. That will cause our cities to die. It's gotta be Putin

mousquet · #**20631** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 6:27 PM**

Lol, you guys might as well build underground parking garages. You know, buried under buildings themselves like the dead, so their ugliness and rot is not visible at street level.
That is not banned, huh. It is even actually recommended. But it must be slightly more expensive than overground parking.

That's what they most often do in Greater Paris these days, but there's a constraint to it. Most often, you get less than one underground parking spot per unit in a building. That means not even one car per household.
This is a natural constraint anyway, cause once a spot is densely populated, cars simply turn impossible because they take too much room.

If you want to keep your shiny car, you just move to subsidized suburbia or the independent countryside where good farmers grow their crops to feed us all. That's about it.
That's what urban planning experiments and experience show to us all. It's like mere math.

marothisu · #**20632** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 6:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by mousquet

Lol, you guys might as well build underground parking garages. You know, buried under buildings themselves like the dead, so their ugliness and rot is not visible at street level.
That is not banned, huh. It is even actually recommended. But it must be slightly more expensive than overground parking.

That's what they most often do in Greater Paris these days, but there's a constraint to it. Most often, you get less than one underground parking spot per unit in a building. That means not even one car per household.
This is a natural constraint anyway, cause once a spot is densely populated, cars simply turn impossible because they take too much room.

If you want to keep your shiny car, you just move to subsidized suburbia or the independent countryside where good farmers grow their crops to feed us all. That's about it.
That's what urban planning experiments and experience show to us all. It's like mere math.

Most everyone here on this forum wants that. Unfortunately the total times of construction and costs I believe are greater, so only some projects actually get that.

Mr. Chicago · #**20633** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 8:18 PM**

Mr. Chicago here,
On the issue of parking lots and garages, let me open this up with an anecdote. Last summer I was walking around Logan Square when I noticed a for rent sign for a studio apt. I asked a local how much the rent may be. The man replied possibly $800-$1200 a month. I almost fell over. I said an apartment like this in an similar area in Brooklyn would run $3000-$4000 a month. The man told me that is the reason why he moved to Chicago from NYC. If wealth is concentrated such as it is in NYC then you will pay NY prices. A parking garage acts as a barrier to concentration like a green space. Granted that little garage on St. Clare should at least be rebuilt. ( I saw a picture of what may replace it -- nice) Always, however, keep in mind the economic
ramifications of these projects. New York is wobbling economically because it is too expensive.

Randomguy34 · #**20634** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

170 N. Green Plan Commission Presentation 04.21

https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/...esentation.pdf

On page 27 the mechanical height is listed as 480', almost as tall as 900 W Randolph

thegoatman · #**20635** Posted **Apr 18, 2022, 10:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34

On page 27 the mechanical height is listed as 480', almost as tall as 900 W Randolph

That's an increase from 455'

BVictor1 · #**20636** Posted **Apr 19, 2022, 1:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by thegoatman

That's an increase from 455'

Yes and no... It was originally proposed at 470'. This is more of a return.

sentinel · #**20637** Posted **Apr 19, 2022, 1:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34

On page 27 the mechanical height is listed as 480', almost as tall as 900 W Randolph

The design has changed again, unfortunately. They've eliminated the angled vertical metal 'pleats'. By the time this project finally starts construction, it'll just be another mass of bland boxes :/

BorisMolotov · #**20638** Posted **Apr 19, 2022, 1:35 AM**

Regarding the Streeterville proposal, is that the last original municipal garage? Some time ago I found this website and I think all of them may be gone with this being the last one: https://forgottenchicago.com/feature...rking-garages/

BVictor1 · #**20639** Posted **Apr 19, 2022, 1:42 AM**

160 N. Morgan

04.18.22

Randomguy34 · #**20640** Posted **Apr 19, 2022, 9:23 PM**

400 N Elizabeth secured land acquisition and Boston Consulting Group confirmed they're moving their local office to 330 N Green. Both towers will start construction in the summer. Pretty much every Fulton Market proposal for the past year is going to be starting construction soon

Source:
https://chicago.urbanize.city/post/m...elizabeth-site
https://www.costar.com/article/13422...-fulton-market