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Old Posted Aug 18, 2015, 10:13 PM
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Sutton Place Supertall Has a New Problem: a Holdout Tenant
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Residents are giving Bauhouse Group a run for their money, literally, when it comes to the 900-foot-tall tower the developer wants to erect on East 58th Street. According to the Times, Bauhouse is coming up against a few stubborn tenants in the process of buyouts as they seek to purchase more lots surrounding the site of their planned tower. Although Bauhouse has acquired all of the development rights and property required to erect the building, the developer is now trying to snatch up surrounding buildings to create a bigger base for the structure—and maybe even build taller. But it all isn't going so well. An 81-year-old tenant in one of those buildings along 58th Street between First Avenue and Sutton Place has refused all of Bauhouse's offers, which include an apartment elsewhere in the neighborhood rent free for the rest of his life, moving expenses, and $1 million (although tenant Herndon Werth denies this.) "I told them," Werth recaps to the Times, "I ain't going nowhere."

Meanwhile, as Werth stubbornly refuses to uproot from his home of over 40 years, area locals are arranging against the tower. Residents of 16 co-op and condo buildings in the area have formed an alliance to try to stop the development, and are inquiring about rezoning the area before Bauhouse gets construction permits. "This is about preserving our residential neighborhoods and the light and air for the people who live there," Councilman Ben Kallos told the Times, "The community is finally fighting back against superscrapers."

Bauhouse might not be able to swing the project without a financial partner. Its principle, Jospeh Beninati, told the Times that if a joint venture partner doesn't sign on the dotted line, he'll have to sell the project.
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2015, 10:15 PM
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Skyscraper That Would Soar Over Sutton Place Runs Into Neighborhood Opposition
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2015, 1:48 AM
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But residents of 16 co-op and condominium buildings near Mr. Beninati’s site have formed an alliance to try to stop the project, hiring lawyers and political strategists, and enlisting civic groups and elected officials, including City Councilman Benjamin Kallos, who represents the area, and the Manhattan borough president, Gale A. Brewer.

“This is about preserving our residential neighborhoods and the light and air for the people who live there,” Mr. Kallos said. “The community is finally fighting back against superscrapers.”

Some of the fiercest critics live at the Sovereign, a 47-story co-op directly across 58th Street from Mr. Beninati’s proposed construction site. Built in 1975, it was the ultraluxury building of its era.

The architecture critic Paul Goldberger, writing in The New York Times at the time, described the building as “brutally destructive of the scale of 58th Street and Sutton Place.”

Mr. Beninati’s tower, opponents say, would loom 400 feet over the Sovereign. “I don’t think you can compare a 900-foot needle tower with the Sovereign,” said Gail Haft, a member of Sutton Area Community, a local organization.
This is the building across the street, whose residents are complaining that this new skyscraper would be out of scale with the neighborhood:


http://cdn-img1.streeteasy.com/nyc/i.../116819649.jpg

Are they concerned about "destruction of neighborhood character"? Or are they concerned about losing views like these, which they probably feel entitled to:


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Old Posted Aug 19, 2015, 2:44 PM
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“I don’t think you can compare a 900-foot needle tower with the Sovereign,”
Correct. A needle tower is going to have much less impact at street level than a hulk like the Sovereign.
     
     
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I love watching rich NIMBYs scream and shout. Especially if they're ultra-hypocrites living in tall, skinny towers already, and ranting and raving about a new tall, skinny tower.
     
     
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I seriously doubt it's character. They just don't want to lose views like said before.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2015, 4:42 PM
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I love watching rich NIMBYs scream and shout. Especially if they're ultra-hypocrites living in tall, skinny towers already, and ranting and raving about a new tall, skinny tower.
Which part of The Sovereign is "skinny"? It's a blockbuster tower that's about 4x wider than the new proposal, and it blocks out the sun much more effectively than Sutton Place Tower could ever hope for.

The new building will not block any buildings in Sutton Place, except for the Sovereign. I have a feeling that they want its height chopped by, say, twice, and call it a victory, even though their precious views would be blocked as effectively by a 400 footer as they would be by the current proposal.
     
     
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Could they use eminent domain on this old f*ck?
     
     
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Could they use eminent domain on this old f*ck?
No, only the government or authorized by the state entity can use eminent domain to take private property for PUBLIC use. And if he does not want to sell, so be it!
     
     
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No, only the government or authorized by the state entity can use eminent domain to take private property for PUBLIC use. And if he does not want to sell, so be it!
I wonder if they will just build around his living space? Similar to this:


Credit: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/12/us...tand.html?_r=0



They could just build around him, then in the future, when he passes away to NIMBY heaven, have a renovation for the tower base once they get his property.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2015, 11:36 PM
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there are a few quiet places in town where the cornices need to stay as they are . .
where the scale - the friezes - coining - pilasters - all need to be vigilantly maintained .
where the wrought iron - stone brick and mortar . . must continue to be un-demolished .
Yes even in big town Manhattan . . certain quaint buildings - certain cozy streets . .
must be protected for our civility . .

World famous Sutton Place is not renowned for its needle towers. Nor should it be.
Let's not insist that New York City treasures become less remarkable . .
We don't really need another 900 footer (Sutton Place Tower) that bad -
to just put it anywhere.

We love the city's exciting development of towers soaring ever higher . .
But there are always a few sacrosanct boundaries.
Big aggressive developers elbow into - piggyback on - leech from . . and even sully . .
every opulent reputable NYC asset that they can profit from . .
Most of the time it's for the better.
Not always.
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All of this NIMBYism is just to preserve their views. They are selfish. Its also fear of being overshadowed by a grander tower. They are no longer the hot shots in the neighborhood. Its a giant ego of entitlement, which is not guaranteed in an ever changing city.
     
     
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I like puncturing the sky as much as anybody . .
But this is renowned "Sutton Place" . . more an oasis of the mind . .
than a substantive neighborhood . . But people conjure "enclave" . .
and it's nice to have a few of them around.
I love Manhattan in the off hours . . on a snowy morn . .
when ya want to take a peaceful walk . . and where do ya go? . . a cobblestoned street.
It can't all be bombastic plate-glass-wall alienation.
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Skyscraper Foes Raising Money to Fund Review for Sutton Place Rezoning Plan in New York
New York City, United States – 23 October 2015

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A coalition of politicians and anti-development activists is looking to pay its own way to push through proposed rezoning that would limit the construction of new skyscrapers in the Upper East Side neighborhood's residential areas.

Councilman Ben Kallos is working with the East River 50s Alliance – a community group that coalesced around an effort to defeat plans for a 900-foot (274-meter) skyscraper in Sutton Place – to raise the money and dole it out to the analysts, planners, and lawyers that the activists will need in order to usher a rezoning bid through the city’s uniform land-use review process (ULURP).

A grassroots stab at a ULURP rezoning is an unusual tactic, as most rezonings come at the request of the city or an individual developer looking to build a project not allowed under an area’s current regulations.

If the Department of City Planning certifies the group’s application for rezoning, the plea will then go for public review by the Community Board, the Borough President, the City Planning Commission, the City Council, and, finally, the mayor.

Beyond an application fee of about $30,000 for a neighborhood rezoning of more than 500,000 square feet (46,000 square meters), a ULURP does not cost the applicant anything. But in order to make sure the application is filled out correctly and in order to ensure that an entity is making a good case for the rezoning, entities generally must hire land-use lawyers and other experts to help move the rezoning through the necessary hoops, according to a Department of City Planning spokesman.

Neighbors opposed to the Sutton Place tower plan met in July to begin organizing against developer Bauhaus Group which, thanks to current zoning regulations, is free to build the skyscraper as-of-right unless opponents can successfully impose height restrictions.

Bauhaus Group, is currently steaming ahead with the project, having bought up properties between 426 and 432 E. 58th St. in January for $32 million. In August the firm finished assembling the air rights necessary for the project, shelling out $37.9 million for the air rights from several nearby properties, according to a report by Curbed.

At the end of September, the Department of Buildings approved demolition applications for those properties, city records show.
     
     
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With a pro-development city council and mayoral administrations like Bloomberg and DeBlasio, I can't see the NIMBYs having much control over this.
     
     
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Why does being pro-development automatically mean they won't allow rezonings? Bloomberg under the infamous Amanda Burden downzoned (upzoned some wide streets and downzoned all others) many parts of the city and put in height limits in many places where there were none before.
     
     
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They can rezone all they want; doesn't matter when permits have already been pulled. Heck, the developers might even be covertly funding the NIMBYs; as a downzoning would make this project more valuable by blocking all neighboring towers except their own.

But the Department of City Planning doesn't do spot-rezoning, DeBlasio has come out against building height limits in this part of Manhattan, and the Planning boss (Carl Weisbrod) has been even more emphatic in his support of sliver towers. But NIMBYism is a good way to score political points, so I'm sure the local councilperson will continue to whine and cry long after the building is built (as you see in Brooklyn Heights right now, where NIMBYs are still railing against the height of an already completed building).
     
     
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New Rendering:

======> Scroll to da m*thaf*ckin right!

Also: NEW YORK | Sutton Place Tower | 900 FT | 80 FLOORS


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Upper East Side, brace: Sutton Place's 80-story tower is coming. Word has arrived in the Curbed inbox that developer Bauhouse Group has filed demolition permits for the existing buildings at 426-432 East 58th Street, which will be razed to make room for the 900-foot, 115-apartment luxury tower designed by Norman Foster.

Of course Bauhouse Group head honcho Joseph Beninati could not be more pleased, "These permits signal exciting progress for the project," Beninati said in a statement, "[W]e believe that our world class team and union contractors will develop a building that mirrors the elegance and storied past of the Sutton Place neighborhood."

It sounds like the developer and the community have two different ideas about how to honor the quiet Upper East Side enclave. In August, backed by a growing alliance of area co-op and condo boards, Councilman Ben Kallos (who adamantly opposes the project) told the Times that his move to rally against the development is "about preserving our residential neighborhoods and the light and air for the people who live there."

Construction permits have yet to be filed for the building. In August, Beninati told the New York Times that the Bauhouse Group wouldn't be able to move forward with the project without securing a financial partner, but today's announcement confirms that Bauhouse has found that partner in Carlton Group.

In addition to the four sites, Bauhouse Group acquired 270,000 square feet of air rights. The 900-foot tower will be able to rise as-of-right, meaning the only thing that's stopping in is a midnight rezoning of the area.
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I like it. Makes a nice pair with 432 PA on the Midtown skyline.
     
     
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This one is going to be great for the East Side skyline. Three new Foster towers in the neighborhood (the one near the UN, 425 Park, and 3 Sutton Place).
     
     
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